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Grace_alone
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Posted on Monday, November 26, 2012 - 4:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The good news is, Angus T. Jones, who plays Jake Harper on "Two and a Half Men" has realized that his show is "filth" and wants to live his life as a Christian.

http://tv.yahoo.com/news/-two-and-a-half-men--star-begs-viewers-to-stop-watching-his--filth--of-a-show-212823396.html?cache=clear

The bad news is, he's getting involved in the SDA church! UGH!

Please pray for this kid. The fact that he's getting any press at all is surprising. The fact that he wants to make a statement in the first place is pretty amazing. I just hope that somehow the lights get turned on and he sees the SDA church for what it is. Hopefully someone will come along and steer him in the right direction!

Leigh Anne
Mjcmcook
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Posted on Monday, November 26, 2012 - 4:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Perhaps, "Kirk Cameron" will get wind of this, and
set him straight!

~mj~
Grace_alone
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Posted on Monday, November 26, 2012 - 4:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

We can only hope Kirk Cameron knows about the SDA system!
Mjcmcook
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Posted on Monday, November 26, 2012 - 5:08 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have faith to believe that Kirk Cameron will recognize adventism as the "cult" that they are!

And if not, Kirk will educate himself!

~mj~
Flyinglady
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Posted on Monday, November 26, 2012 - 5:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Can we send Kirk Cameron the Rose Publication abour SDAs?
Mjcmcook
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Posted on Monday, November 26, 2012 - 5:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Diana~

Kirk Cameron is associated with Ray Comfort in the
'Way of the Master Ministries'~

~mj~
Lyrical
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Posted on Tuesday, November 27, 2012 - 7:22 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And, here's the REALLY bad news... Angus has already been baptized into the SDA church! He has gone through the prophecy seminars and is diving into evangelism.

He has already done a 30 minute interview with Connie Jefferey for a program called "Turning Point" for Voice of Prophecy, which I watched last night. You can watch it here VOP Interview

His story and interview with "The Forerunner," (who is an SDA) was one of the top stories on my MSN home page this morning! This is actually make pretty big news. There is a link from that MSN story to the complete interview with "The Forerunner" where Angus mentions specifics such as the Sabbath, Sanctuary Doctrine, end time prophecies, etc... He even mentions that some of his family were concerned he was getting into a cult. As of this moment, that YouTube video has received 750,000+ hits! Most of the comments I've read under that video are positive and supportive of him. I saw a few that were clearly other SDAs, but most were just other Christians who are supportive of him taking a stand for Christianity. They have no idea of the dangers of Adventism... and neither does he. He clearly states on this video that everything is in the Bible and that he didn't feel tricked at all by what he was being taught. Here is a link to that video YouTube Interview

I'd suggest that we start posting comments under that YouTube video that specifically challenge the listeners to research Adventism. Maybe comment specifically on what he said. The potential influence Angus has is scary and people need to know he has been deceived.

Based on these interviews it appears to me that his focus has already shifted from the saving grace of Jesus to knowing "the truth" and to evangelism... He doesn't talk at all about what Christ has done for him and for the world. He has very clearly become a voice for Adventism first and for Christ, second. This is the subtle deception that most people don't even notice. This is the stuff that gets SDAs all excited...

And speaking of that... having VOP and this "The Forerunner" guy jump all over him with interviews reminds me of just how hierarchical the SDA system is and how they only give attention to the people who will make them look good. All of a sudden his "testimony" is valued and worth recording and praising, but it's only because he is important and has a "name." It's not unlike the chain of name dropping that occurs in Adventism (like Connie Jefferey introducing herself as "Connie Vandeman Jefferey" so that we all know she's significant because she's a "Vandeman") or the status given doctors or people with money. He's a super-star in Adventism now because he's famous already and has money. But Adventism doesn't care a hoot about the other "lower-on-the-ladder people" in their churches who are not TV stars, doctors, wealthy, etc., whose conversion stories may be 1000 times more powerful than this one! Sick.

This upsets me so much. There aren't words. It's hard to watch and my heart breaks for him. Let's all pray for Angus in earnest!! He needs deliverance.

(Message edited by lyrical on November 27, 2012)
Lyrical
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Posted on Tuesday, November 27, 2012 - 7:55 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here's the link to Part 1 of the YouTube video I mentioned in Post #89. (The link I previously provided was Part 2.) YouTube Interview Part 1 It's the same story that became more polished in the VOP interview... More "rough" and detailed. As of now, it has received 133,000+ hits. This interview makes it sound as though Adventism gave him the answer of how to be "real" Christian. Where's Jesus?? In true Adventism fashion, Jesus is missing. I remember as an Adventist feeling ok talking about God, but really uncomfortable talking about Jesus.

Also, I forgot to mention in my previous post that Angus even says something like... "I'm not perfect... at least, not yet!" This is modern Adventism... no mention of EGW in any of these video clips, but her teachings are ringing loud and clear and promoted by him as coming straight from Scripture.
Colossians2v8
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Posted on Tuesday, November 27, 2012 - 8:10 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I posted a comment on the first link you provided for part 2, held for uploader approval, we'll see how that goes:-)

""""It is good that you're coming to Christ Jesus, but beware the traditions of man, any denomination that insists it is the only way stands in contradiction with Jesus Christ who said I AM The Way, I have in-laws that were raised into SDA, some have been delivered from the legalism and false prophetess by the power of Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Nothing you can do will make you right with God, Only God can get you right, "For the Law was given through Moses, but Grace and Truth came by Jesus Christ""""
Colossians2v8
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Posted on Tuesday, November 27, 2012 - 9:06 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Colleen, Richard, who all are in involved in running this site, may I link some of these people commenting on those youtube videos to this site? Like the person who posted about CFWPLM for example, I fully expect this 4runner guy to withhold all posts that speak against SDA and for Jesus Christ, so we may need to leave comments on peoples personal youtube channels.
River
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Posted on Tuesday, November 27, 2012 - 3:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Saw this on Fox News today. Never have seen his show.

I wonder if he found Jesus or religion? There have been many people made a big change in their lives after finding religion. Don't want to seem negative though.
If the glass is half full I always think it is half empty and I want to think positive thoughts.

River
Punababe808
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Posted on Tuesday, November 27, 2012 - 7:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So, will He take over for that fellow whole was the caveman ? I forgot his name. Doug Botchler, i think.
Colleentinker
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Posted on Tuesday, November 27, 2012 - 7:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Colossian, absolutely. Share this link as much as you like!

Colleen
Katarain
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Posted on Wednesday, November 28, 2012 - 8:35 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Forerunner video is featured on the front of youtube today.

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