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8thday
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Posted on Friday, December 18, 2009 - 7:36 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Reading this morning, a prophet's words to King Ahab -

1Ki 22:19 And Micaiah said, "Therefore hear the word of the LORD: I saw the LORD sitting on his throne, and all the host of heaven standing beside him on his right hand and on his left;
1Ki 22:20 and the LORD said, 'Who will entice Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramoth-gilead?' And one said one thing, and another said another.
1Ki 22:21 Then a spirit came forward and stood before the LORD, saying, 'I will entice him.'
1Ki 22:22 And the LORD said to him, 'By what means?' And he said, 'I will go out, and will be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets.' And he said, 'You are to entice him, and you shall succeed; go out and do so.'
1Ki 22:23 Now therefore behold, the LORD has put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these your prophets; the LORD has declared disaster for you."

These were the words of the one single prophet that spoke the truth to the King.

Brought back the story to my mind that God allegedly held back the truth from the Millerites - deceiving them, covering up the truth with His own hand.

God doesn't lie, but there are entities in His universe that will, and He can use them to his purpose, and when He does, at appears that it is not for our best good when this happens, but rather, "the LORD has declared disaster for you."

Kind of a sobering thought.

2nd thing I saw a few days ago - about the Word of the Lord -

Been noticing the phrase through the OT stories "And the Word of the Lord came to.. " It first caught my eye with Samuel, when he was first called and it said he was called when he "did not yet know the Word of the Lord." I thought that was interesting wording. Then, when Elijah is in the cave, running from Jezebel it says.. "And the Word of the Lord came, and HE SAID.." The Word is Personified there - as a personality. He asks Elijah, "What are you doing here?" Then, it says, the LORD passed by (the earthquake, whirlwind, etc..) then spoke in the quietness and again the question, "What are you doing here?" The Father and the Son.. it appears to me, both speaking to Elijah.

When John says, In the beginning was the Word - and the Word was with God and the Word was God - just gave it a whole new picture to me. I have until this time pictured the experience of a Biblcal prophet and his message as something more impersonal - I can't really explain the shift in perspective this gave me.

When Revelation says - "The Testimony of Jesus is the Spirit of Prophecy" - It would apparently mean - the Words Jesus Christ Himself speaks - in person. Not the ministry of the prophets themselves. To call the writings of a woman the Spirit of Prophecy after what I have seen here is blasphemous.

Would welcome any other comments if I'm off base here anywhere. Also sorry if this is a "no duh" kinda thing. ha. If someone else has brought it up - I don't recall, but often when I see things in scripture with my spiritual eyes, it's like I've seen them for the first time, even if I've heard it before. Kind of like not getting Dale's explanation of the New Covenant until several years after I read it.. then I saw it in the Bible and WOW. ha. At least no one can claim he brainwashed me! lol.

Sondra
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Posted on Friday, December 18, 2009 - 3:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sondra, I get it! Such great insight! Yes, I agree about the Spirit of Prophecy. I think it would be equally true to the language to also say it could mean the words the Holy Spirit gives us to say about Jesus. Dale says, at any rate, that the passage can be read either way: the words Jesus says about Himself, or the words He gives us as His witness to testify about Him. Either way, the outcome is the same: the truth about Jesus is spoken.

I so agree with you. The depth of the blasphemy re: the Spirit of Prophecy and its identity if horrifying within Adventism. It is only a lying spirit that could conjure up the meaning of its being the "inspiration" of Ellen White...

Over and over again Adventism places Ellen in the place of Christ and His own Word(s).

Colleen

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