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| Rossbondreturns Registered user Username: Rossbondreturns Post Number: 227 Registered: 10-2009  |
Last night I recorded my first Vlog with my new God Given HD Digital Camera and it came out really nicely. For my first Midnight Musings topic I chose to tackle Soul Sleep. I hope you find this helpful in explaining the truth about the false doctrine of Soul Sleep. Midnight Musings: What about Soul Sleep? | ||
| Kelleigh Registered user Username: Kelleigh Post Number: 90 Registered: 7-2011 |
'Undercover Adventist', that is very cool. I liked your closing statement - if the body and spirit are separated at death there is no soul. That makes sense. I don't know what happens after you die anymore. I took some of Dad's things out of storage and placed them around the house (his hat, guitar). I didn't like having his things around when I thought he was asleep. Made me miss him too much. But maybe he is aware of us, up there in heaven? I have no idea. The spirit goes back to God - I know that. But is it conscious without a body? Btw, I think your vlog is very professional. Reminds me of the x-files. | ||
| Rossbondreturns Registered user Username: Rossbondreturns Post Number: 229 Registered: 10-2009 |
Personally I believe so. The Spirit of Moses and Elijah on the Mount of Configuration certainly indicate to that. As do the Spirits of those under the altar in Revelation. Paul would hardly say it's better to be with God if the Spirit were unconscious. | ||
| Thegoldenway Registered user Username: Thegoldenway Post Number: 60 Registered: 5-2011 |
Kelleigh, speaking from a brief personal experience here. Yes, your spirit is DEFINITELY conscious without a body. However, you're not able to interact with this physical dimension. lynn | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 12816 Registered: 12-2003  |
The Bible tells us it's better by far to depart and be with the Lord—Phil 1:22-23. As Ross said, this can't refer to unconsciousness. At the same time, the Bible never indicates that the spirits of those who are with the Lord have access to the physical world. They are with the Lord, and He keeps them in His love if they are saved. If not,
Colleen | ||
| Gcfrankie Registered user Username: Gcfrankie Post Number: 806 Registered: 1-2007 |
Being an outsider (one not born into sda) but raised presbytarian as a child I was taught that God knew us before we were born and created us through our parents and we came with a soul and at death the soul returns to the rightful owner, God. I guess this is why I could not accept the sda teaching on soul sleep. This is one of the things that chased my out of the church because when my parents died (they were good christians) having people come up to me giving condolenses out of one side of their mouth and out of the other saying what a shame that their soul will go to hell when Jesus returns because they were not sda's. The church used to try and keep you away from non-sda funerals. I don't know if they still try and do that. | ||
| Kelleigh Registered user Username: Kelleigh Post Number: 103 Registered: 7-2011  |
Gcfrankie, that would have been very hard for you at your parents funeral. Many sdas try to evangelise at funerals, especially those of non-sdas. There is an Ellen White inspired fear that people must be warned/prepared for the end time deception of spiritualism. It's pretty insensitive to evangelise at a funeral. I know they mean well and have a burden for people, but really, think about it. 'There is a time to evangelise and a time to cease from evangelising' | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 9361 Registered: 3-2004  |
When my Mom died in June 2002 she died at home with hospice care. The chaplain was terrific. He was a Christian. At my Mom's memorial service after the funeral the dear chaplain came up to me and told me something about my Mom being in a better place. I did not know what the Bible taught about death, so I said, "thank you chaplain, but you and I do not believe the same." He went to my brother Mike, my youngest brother, and asked him if all his family believed as I did. I do not remember what Mike told him. Now I want to find that chaplain and tell him that now I know what he was saying and that I now have a relationship with Jesus. The only person who knows the hospice organization is a sister I have had to set very strict boundaries on and she probably would not tell me. So, all I can do is pray for her. Diana l |
