Post Number: 2179
|Posted on Sunday, October 22, 2006 - 8:55 pm: || |
After all the talk we had about eternal conscious torment in hell on another thread, I thought we might lighten the tone a bit.
Yesterday, my wife and I attended a memorial service for my uncle Jack at Redlands SDA church, where we celebrated the life of this special uncle of ours. He was the son of my missionary grandfather, Leo B. Halliwell, and I am convinced that in his later life he became a believer.
I was expecting a rather formal affair, but this was a fun celebration! One of his daughters put together a great video production of his life and family, and even on Sabbath afternoon, it was filled with great upbeat Frank Sinatra music--even on a Sabbath! Oh my! And no one was uptight about it--surprise?
The SDA pastor who was my uncles' pastor before he died even shared this joke about SDAs which I thought was kind of funny, so I thought I would share it here:
A man died and went to heaven, and met St. Peter who was showing him around heaven, and they came across various groups of people. There was one large group who were Presbyterians, and the man asked who these people were? Peter said these are the people who were chosen from every kindred, nation, tongue, and people.
There was another group that consisted of Catholics and a few other ecumenical groups, and Peter said that these are a group of people who are surprised to be here.
Then there was this very small group all the way over by themselves in their exclusive little corner of heaven, and the man asked "Who are these people?"
These are the Seventh-day Adventists, and they think they are the only ones who are here in heaven."
This got a hearty belly laugh from me and also some others, but I also saw some faces who didn't appreciate this line. But I thought coming from an SDA pastor, it was quite interesting. It looks like some SDAs are starting to laugh at themselves over this exclusivistic mentality. But probably, a memorial like this would most likely occur in S.Calif.
I was privileged to be able to play my trumpet and perform two of my uncles favorite hymns. "How Great Thou Art", and we finished with the congregation singing along "It is well with my soul".
It was a very special day yesterday as we honored a fine uncle, and had a lot of fun, and was inspiring.
Post Number: 2938
|Posted on Sunday, October 22, 2006 - 9:06 pm: || |
I heard that joke when I was an SDA in SDA schools, but I am glad it is still going around and SDAs, even the minister, can laugh at it. It sounds like it was a time of rejoicing for you instead of sadness.
When my Mom died 4 years ago, she died as an SDA. She had told us how she wanted her funeral. She wanted a Mariachi band to play her favorite Mexican songs. Well, the band my sisters got played her songs at the graveside. Then at the memorial service, which was held inside the Norwalk SDA church, the band played those same songs. They were Las Golondrinas, Guadalajara and one they composed. It was Guadalajara that surprised me, because it is a very lively Mexican Mariachi song. The SDA minister did not say a thing. I was thankful for that and Mom had her funeral and memorial service how she wanted it.
Post Number: 355
|Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 11:16 am: || |
Your mom had a good sense of humour, and also she picked the best moment because nobody can deny the last wish of someone. That pastor was perhaps against this manifestation, but he had his hands tied! If your mom will be alive, I will want to shake her hand and congratulate her for such a clever arrangement.
Stan, I heard this joke told in Romania. A lot of romanian good humour was produced in the years under the Ceausescu, the romanian communist dictator. We used humor to laugh abou things that we couldn't change.
I guess that something similar happens in adventism. They laugh about things that they know that are the logical conclusion of their premises, and these are things that cannot be changed. In this way they are trying to evade the awful consequences, rationalizing that because they are laughing, they don't share in these extreme views, but nevertheless they do.
If they do not laugh, they are in danger to become mentally ill, if they will not ratonalize somehow they beliefs.
Post Number: 4829
|Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 3:15 pm: || |
Great insight into the underlying psychology of humor, Jackob. You're rightólaughing at the unchangeable "dark side" of things keeps people somewhat stable while being connected to the offending situation.
Without Jesus living in one's heart, there's no hope for true healing and protection from the evil of the powers that control one's environment. I believe that Jesus is the key to becoming free enough from the bondage around us that we can actually look at it squarely and admit what it really is. Sometimes admitting the truth makes it possible for us to leave the evil.
Your mentioning living under Ceausescu, Jackob, is very interesting. Thanks for bringing it up in this context of creating "inside humor". What you say makes so much sense. (And I can only try to imagine what it was like for Romania during that man's regime. What a horrible experience...)
Post Number: 314
|Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 7:59 pm: || |
A man walks into the woman's department store and tells the sales clerk he wants to buy a bra for his wife.
"What type of bra?" asked the clerk.
"Type?" inquires the man. "There is more than one type?"
"There are three types," replies the clerk. "The Catholic type, the Salvation Army type, and the Adventist type. Which one do you need?"
Still confused the man asks, "What is the difference in them?"
The clerk reponds, "It is really very easy. The Catholic type supports the massess, the Salvation Army lifts up the fallen, and the Adventist type makes mountains out of mole hills."
Post Number: 2942
|Posted on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 8:01 pm: || |
Post Number: 850
|Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 8:14 am: || |
Great humor with a truthful message!
Post Number: 300
|Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 8:42 am: || |
Thank-you for giving me something funny today.
I has just passed that story on to 12 people from old classmates to the brethren at the GC. These are all folks I know, and they will all get a kick out of it.
May your day be bountiful in peace and joy, thanks for making mine.
Post Number: 505
|Posted on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 2:53 pm: || |
The three types are also known as:
Catholic: Cross your Heart
Salvation Army: Training
Post Number: 356
|Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 9:20 am: || |
To continue with jokes, I will relate some jokes I told my adventist friends, and are related to adventist mentality.
In a classroom, the teacher ask
"Who is the greatest religious personality? i will give 20 dollar to the student who will give the correct answer."
A muslim boy answers "Mohammad" "I'm sorry, he's not the greatest", says the teacher.
A mormon girl answers "Joseph Smith".
"He's not the greatest"
A jewish boy answers "Jesus Christ"
The teacher gives the boy 20 dollars and ask him "You are a jew, and the jews are against Jesus Christ. Why did you told us that Jesus is the greatest religious personality?"
Looking at the money, the boy answers "I know that our Moses is the greatest religious personality in the world, but ... business is business" and kiss the dollars.
PS: I told this joke to my scholar friend who no longer believes that there is a link between Daniel 8 and Daniel 9, and that in Daniel 8 only Antiochos Epiphanes is present, but in public he defends the traditional interpretation for the sake of money.
Post Number: 4847
|Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 12:06 pm: || |
Jackob, the joke is funny, but your background of sharing it with an Adventist who no longer believes but still professes is really funny! There's nothing like humor to reveal motive.
Post Number: 357
|Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 1:16 pm: || |
In a cemetery a gravedigger was working in the middle of the night, because during the daylight he was so drunk to dig a grave. Behind him, a skeleton arises from a grave and tries to scary him by a "Boo hoo hoo"
Not impressed, the man continues to dig. The skeleton tries again but with the same succes. When the skeleton saw this, he started to climb the graveyard wall, but suddenly, the gravedigger take his spade and gives a direct hit to the skeleton, taking him down, saying at the same time
"We laughed, we joked, but we don't leave the precincts, ok?"
I hope that my translation doesn't spoil the fun, but I used this joke when I talk about the fundamental rule of adventism: don't leave the ship, the church.
Post Number: 358
|Posted on Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 1:28 pm: || |
At a contest of prayers and miracles, three persons from three parts of the world presents their experiences.
The first, is a Eskimo, and he said "I was in an awfull situation when the ice started to melt under myself. I prayed to God and sixty feet around me the ice froze instantly saving me from drowning"
The second, was somebody from the desert Sahara. He said "I was surprised by a desert storm, and I almost died, bu I prayed and suddenly 60 feet around me the air stopped, and I was like in the eye of the storm, all was still.
A jew comes. "I was on the streets going to my sinagogue, and suddenly I saw a wallet on the street. I wanted to take it, but it was forbidden, it was the sabbath day. And so I prayed and 60 feet around me it was tuesday."