Post Number: 717
|Posted on Thursday, February 06, 2014 - 11:14 am: || |
Was wondering what you guys think of the book Jesus Calling. It is a huge seller and there are books for children too. Perhaps you all have already discussed this. I haven't been on here for a while.
I wanted to see if we could have a discussion on this just to get a feel for where former SDA's (at least at this venu) land on this hot topic.
Have you read the articles by former New Agers who are expressing their concern? As a "Former" I know how frustrating it is to stand up and wave a red flag at those who are enticed by Adventism's deceptions and who brush me off. I believe that "Former" anything deserves a hearing. I'll post the article and an interview of the author of Another Jesus Calling and would love to hear your thoughts.
Post Number: 113
|Posted on Thursday, February 06, 2014 - 12:59 pm: || |
One thing interesting to me is the connection to the Oxford. Group and God calling -as anyone in the recovery movement knows the Oxford group was the forerunner of AA -- there is an occult spiritual connection to the way that group(AA) received the 12 steps through automatic writing and spirit guides - (I was in AA for over 25 years and am a former of that group as well-) as I researched Jesus calling over a year ago I came to an understanding of why I reacted to it the way I did - I was distressed in my own spirit by the first person writing as Jesus speaking...immediate open door for deception in a most hypnotic way - I am comforted by the scriptural words of Jesus and turn to the "red letters" when I am disquieted by that kind of "red flag" - I appreciate the Lighthouse Trails as a discernment ministry - discernment ministries like that have helped enlarge my understanding of false teachings as they were one of my resources as I sought to understand why when others were praising this book I was so disturbed by it... Some of the same alarms going off for me with SDA AA and Jesus Calling... I am finally understanding why I did not feel at home until I came home to Jesus - I do believe I have always known my Shepherd's voice and stayed restless until I finally found my rest in Him....
Post Number: 720
|Posted on Thursday, February 06, 2014 - 1:05 pm: || |
That is so interesting, Rocky. My husband did AA too and he says the same thing; it isn't Christian.
I also know that I sensed Jesus calling me to Himself from the time I was a child. After being born again and having fellowship with Christians I often described the feeling I had as finally being home. I no longer felt like a sojourner, I had a place to land, even though it wasn't a physical place. Hard to explain, but I suspect you already know what I mean. I completely understand the restlessness, and I knew God was calling me to something, I just didn't know that it was salvation. What a Father we have!
Post Number: 1337
|Posted on Thursday, February 06, 2014 - 4:41 pm: || |
I believe it is important to be sensitive to what we think the HOLY SPIRIT
is communicating to us, especially when it comes to the writings of people who claim CHRIST
as their LORD and SAVIOR~ I believe this is called,"wisdom and discernment"~
I had, and continue to have, an 'uneasiness' in my spirit regarding the book,
'The Shack', authored by Wm. Paul Young.
I realize that many Christians like this book and give it to others, in the hope
they will find what they are looking for in their lives through this book.
Unfortunately, for many this is not the case; After all the book is 'fiction', but many
actually believe his 'experiences' are true!
Thus being mislead about the True 'Trinity' of Scripture.
Post Number: 14724
|Posted on Thursday, February 06, 2014 - 10:21 pm: || |
Free, I really appreciated the Sola Sisters reflections on this book when I read it several months ago. The forward of "Jesus Calling" explains how Sarah Young began listening for Jesus to speak to her and commenced writing down what she heard. It was uncannily similar to EGW.
The first person words of Jesus—which aren't His words but are Sarah Young's—are alarming.
Rocky, very interesting background re: AA.
Post Number: 115
|Posted on Saturday, February 08, 2014 - 10:06 am: || |
while this thread is not about AA for anyone interested John Lanigan and "My Word Like Fire" website has been helpful - this is a link to his pamphlet ( because Celebrate Recovery that has been called a Christian alternative is based on the 12 steps it may be of interest to understand the origin of this )
Post Number: 116
|Posted on Sunday, February 09, 2014 - 6:42 am: || |
I received an email notification from lighthouse today regarding the introduction to Jesus Calling- apparently the publisher has altered it to delete Sarah Young's endorsement of God Calling and wording has been changed to less obvious reference to her methodology- glad Sola sisters and lighthouse are references for the original wording and the truth cannot be hidden...
Post Number: 1338
|Posted on Sunday, February 09, 2014 - 7:23 am: || |
This sounds like the "White Estate"!
'Cut & Paste' !
Post Number: 2099
|Posted on Sunday, February 09, 2014 - 3:22 pm: || |
This is a clear review.
As in Keswick spirituality more generally, trust becomes an inner virtue that grows by its exercise. “The more you choose to trust Me, the easier it becomes,” Jesus allegedly says. “Thought patterns of trust become etched into your brain.” This has more in common with Aristotle than with the Apostles. The latter taught that faith comes—and is strengthened—by hearing God’s Word proclaimed.
Reading Jesus Calling, I was reminded of the confusing message of my Christian youth. Longing for “something more,” I pored over my mother’s bookshelf: Thomas a Kempis’ Imitation of Christ, D. L. Moody, Bill Bright, and Andrew Murray. Only with the discovery of the Reformers and various Puritan writers was I offered a liberating alternative that drew me out of myself to cling to Christ. While looking to this Reformation stream for a cluster of doctrines, many in the history of pietism have looked for “something more” elsewhere. Luther and Calvin may be great guides on understanding salvation, but we find our spirituality in medieval and modern alternatives. Yet Reformation piety directs us to the Word, always to the Word, where Christ speaks to us every time it is preached and his sacraments are administered in his name. When we come to this Word, in public and in private, we never need something more.
Post Number: 53
|Posted on Friday, February 14, 2014 - 7:19 pm: || |
Several months ago, a dear sister in the Lord gave me the book, "Jesus Calling". I read the first few devotionals and of course, they sounded wonderful. But I immediately became uncomfortable with someone else speaking for Jesus in the first person. We should NEVER add words to what Jesus authentically said in Scripture. I closed the book and haven't opened it since, nor do I intend to.
I know a lot of people who are loving this book, though.