| Author | Message | ||
| Asurprise Registered user Username: Asurprise Post Number: 1334 Registered: 7-2007 |
Have you noticed that NONE of the people in the cults can say, "I am saved"? I'm sure that the people to whom the apostle Paul wrote, saying: "you have been saved," could all say "I am saved!" Ephesians 2:8,9; 2nd Tim. 1:9; Titus 3:5 In Islam, Muslims just hope that their "good" deeds outweigh their "bad" deeds (unless they get to die blowing up an "infidel" in which case they are "garenteed" salvation - hmmm, how come Ellen said nothing about Islam? Because they're not a threat??!!) In Roman Catholicism, people just have to make it to their "sacrifice of the mass" where Jesus is "sacrificed" over and over again; and they have to confess to a priest in order to have salvation. In Adventism, SDAs have to make it through the "investigative judgment" in order to be saved and Ellen said that no one should say they are saved - in other words she said Paul was wrong (and the apostle John too - 1st John 2:12) | ||
| Dljc Registered user Username: Dljc Post Number: 57 Registered: 7-2010 |
Religion is man-made, Salvation is God-made. Think about it. Man can't save himself, only God could save us. | ||
| Dennis Registered user Username: Dennis Post Number: 2073 Registered: 4-2000  |
Dljc, Sadly, most Christians and churches today believe that God helps them to save themselves. This is based partly upon the popular, false notion that "God helps those who help themselves." Thus, soteriologically, our Adventist friends find alot of support from the Christian world today. Truly, "salvation comes from the Lord" (Jonah 2:9 NIV). Moreover, it is a gift to be received, not a goal to be achieved. It's all about Him! Dennis Fischer | ||
| Cloudwatcher Registered user Username: Cloudwatcher Post Number: 143 Registered: 5-2009 |
Dennis, I'm about to use quote you for my FB status. Love this: Salvation is a gift to be received, not a goal to be achieved. AMEN. | ||
| Hec Registered user Username: Hec Post Number: 1223 Registered: 3-2009 |
Very good quote. I would like to use it too. Hec | ||
| Angelcat Registered user Username: Angelcat Post Number: 186 Registered: 11-2008 |
I may steal that as well. Love it! | ||
| Bb Registered user Username: Bb Post Number: 753 Registered: 7-2004 |
Oh! All this plagiarizing!! J/K  | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 8410 Registered: 3-2004  |
Hey, it is not plagiarizing. We are telling Dennis we are going to use his quote. I haven't seen him say no. Oh, I am going to take it and use it also on FB. Diana L | ||
| Dennis Registered user Username: Dennis Post Number: 2075 Registered: 4-2000 |
Feel free to use the quote widely. It was on our refrigerator as my wife and I were transitioning out of Adventism. I also made copies, using certifcate frames, for my Sunday School class. I am sure it is not an original thought on my part anyway, but I don't know the real author. It has blessed many lives. Dennis Fischer | ||
| Grace_alone Registered user Username: Grace_alone Post Number: 1750 Registered: 6-2006  |
Barb ~ LOL!! LA | ||
| Hec Registered user Username: Hec Post Number: 1225 Registered: 3-2009 |
You guys don't understand. Dennis is making fun by saying that. The SDA quote is "Salvation is not a gift to be received, it is a goal to be achieved." Now, someone smarter than me, please find the reference for that quote in the red books. Hec | ||
| Bb Registered user Username: Bb Post Number: 756 Registered: 7-2004 |
Did the sda's really say that? You guys know I was just being silly (at least Leigh Anne does!) I'll use it too! Thanks Dennis | ||
| Asurprise Registered user Username: Asurprise Post Number: 1346 Registered: 7-2007 |
Hec, I don't think that's in the red books. It's more of an attitude widely displayed in the SDA church. When I was an SDA, I thought it was BOTH - that salvation was both a gift and a goal - works. The trouble is, I just couldn't quite put them together and coming up with any sort of lasting assurance of salvation. | ||
| Hec Registered user Username: Hec Post Number: 1228 Registered: 3-2009 |
I bet you that even if it is not in the red books exactly as written, it's still there in some shape or form. In a paraphrase, or some other explanation. It just need to be found. Jeremy? Bb, take me with a grain of salt when I directly challenge someone. In this case when I'm redirecting Dennis. I like to joke around. I don't know that it is said that way, but it is taught that way. Hec | ||
| Bb Registered user Username: Bb Post Number: 757 Registered: 7-2004 |
Now that's the truth Hec! |
