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| Javagirl Registered user Username: Javagirl Post Number: 617 Registered: 6-2005  |
So....I decide to try my hand at cooking RED meat. I start easy, Hamburgers. Pick up the meat, bring it home--it turns out to be cubed steak patties. Call gf, she says, "no that is not the same as hamburger". I beat the meat to tenderize it (first time I have know what that mallet is for). How long are you supposed to beat it until it is tender? Don't know, but Im enjoying working out some agression. Look up a recipe online for cubed steak. "season meat" okay, with what? McKays? So I try onion salt, garlic salt, worscheshire sauce, Lawrys. Start to cook "until done". How do I know when cubed steak is done??? Think about making sure the pink is all gone. Its beginning to look like gray rubber sponges in a frying pan... Throw it in a caserole dish, cover with spaghetti sauce and cheese and bake as directed. Take out. Think about trying it before serving it to my son (who's dad eats meat, so he is a carnivore already). Cant really bring myself to take a bite, hear "Blood, urine and hormones and worms, thats what is in meat" repeating in my mind. Pray for God to allow me to eat what is set before me, all the while holding my nose and gearing myself up for the plunge into blood, urine, and hormones since worms are only in pork. I try to cut a piece, and figure out why "steak knives" come in cutlery sets. I take the bite, although a very small one, and it is okay. Problem is, Im still chewing. But can't taste any of the dreaded contaminates. Call my son, and he sits down to eat. He declares it is "okay" and eats. Then mentions that I dont need to save the leftovers, cuz he "isnt really into leftovers all that much" Yeah, right. THis from the one who eats every two hours... Sigh, well in two hours, when he asks for food, he's getting a Big Frank!  Lori | ||
| Melissa Registered user Username: Melissa Post Number: 1672 Registered: 7-2003  |
Cubed steak by it's nature is a tougher meat. You would not have changed it much by doing that much different than you did. My dad used to coat it in flour seasoned with lawry's salt and you just chew alot :-). Next time, get real ground beef, repeat all your steps except shape the patties yourself (yes, pick it up, put it in your palm, flatten it to desired shape) and eliminate the aggression relief session ... OR you could put an egg in the meat with onion and shredded cheese for a little twist before making the patties. You don't even have to put it in a casserole, just on buns. Not growing up SDA, I've never heard all those scare tactics, and probably would have lived happily a lot longer without it. Happy cooking! | ||
| Esther Registered user Username: Esther Post Number: 498 Registered: 5-2004 |
Thanks for sharing that. Though I now eat some meat...I'm still to scared to try cooking red meat. How funny! | ||
| Pegg Registered user Username: Pegg Post Number: 124 Registered: 2-2006 |
Lori! That was SO funny! Been there, done that many times! My major prof in dietetics told us in no uncertain terms that to be a decent dietitian we had to learn to cook meat. They weren't going to teach us at SDA college, so we were on our own to figure it out. It was me and the cookbooks. I practiced on my husband. I was very glad I had when the SDA hospital where I was Department Head for Dietetics and Food Service decided to add a meat option. Pegg | ||
| Honestwitness Registered user Username: Honestwitness Post Number: 871 Registered: 7-2005  |
Next time you go to the store, ask to speak to the butcher. Tell him/her you are a recovering vegetarian and need advice on what kind of red meat to buy and how to cok it. I am confident you'll get some very good guidance. | ||
| Jrt Registered user Username: Jrt Post Number: 601 Registered: 10-2008 |
Lori, Too funny! Thanks for the post. I haven't cooked red meat. And having been a vegetarian until a year ago - I perfectly understand the process of learning to cook meat. The first chicken I baked in the oven - I baked for twice as long as it said. And I bought "organic" chicken to make sure. I figured I wanted to Kill off anything that might be in it. And I reasoned cooking it twice as long would be sure not to leave anything. It was awful and I threw it out. Thanks for the post! Got me laughing today! Keri | ||
| Randyg Registered user Username: Randyg Post Number: 1116 Registered: 12-2004  |
LOL Lori. You just made my day!! You and me kid....are in the same boat!! | ||
| Philharris Registered user Username: Philharris Post Number: 1655 Registered: 5-2007  |
Lori, As a "recovering vetatarian" it's a good thing you're not around me. I like raw oysters right out of the shell. I suck them through my teeth and slirp a lot doing it with the juice dripping down the jaw. Well ok, my favorite reciept is to bread them with a batter of corn meal (fresh ground)with salt and pepper. First dip in beaten egg, bread and fry in butter. If you can get past oysters everything else is "down hill" but don't ever try "rocky mountain" oysters. Fearless Phil | ||
| Esther Registered user Username: Esther Post Number: 499 Registered: 5-2004 |
Phil, my father in law grew up non-sda and in the country outside of Seattle and says that the only thing he misses about being non-adventist is slurping oysters. Glad to hear someone is enjoying it for him! | ||
| Hec Registered user Username: Hec Post Number: 258 Registered: 3-2009 |
Phil, with al L, How the hec can you get those raw things down? And the juice, or should I say Slime? Yaaaaak. Get out the Big Franks. Well, I'll compromise, today a got a can of Worthington's Scallops. I know how to do those. Don't give me the real thing though. Now for red meat. UMM UMM, noting better that a good 18 ounces stake from Olive Garden. Too sad I cannot have it any more. It doesn't set right in my intestines (guts would say River) Now for the funny story. My little sister in law had been a vegetarian all her life. Then she decided to marry an omnivore. Once for Christmas she decided to be the brave host and cook the turkey. Well, she changed it to twoo gigantic chicken. Seasoned then well, etc. Place them in the middle of the table. We say graces and my brother in law took the knves to carve the chicken. Umm the smelled so good. Skim was good. First half inch was good. The rest was still frozen. So that was a Christmas with all the fixings but the turkey. Since them, she has learned. I have not let her live that one down though. Hec | ||
| Dennis Registered user Username: Dennis Post Number: 1699 Registered: 4-2000  |
Lori, One of the freedoms we have in Christ is to enjoy whatever food we really like--not what others think we are supposed to like. There is nothing sinister or evil in enjoying meatless entrees. It saves alot of time and work as well. Oh yes, the lack of red meat in our diet is heart-healthy as well. Some people think we should gnaw on pig feet to visibly prove (as a sign) that we are no longer Adventists. Personally, I am not burdened with any social pressure to prove my relationship with Jesus by eating certain foods. We cannot eat our way to heaven nor can we eat our way out of it. Jesus said all foods are clean--even those goodies we learned to enjoy as Adventists. After all, an acquired taste or culinary preference is not sinful. There is absolutely no need to discard foods from our diet simply because we enjoy to eat them. Dennis Fischer | ||
| Javagirl Registered user Username: Javagirl Post Number: 618 Registered: 6-2005 |
Agreed, Dennis. A I grow in grace, I am less concerned about VISIBLY PROVING to others my spiritual commitment to Jesus. Jesus knows my heart, and I am His. In fact, I have come to realize that living my life to prove TO OTHERS my spiritual commitment to Jesus is a form of idolatry. Jesus always called out religious pretension. My jaunts into meat eating have some other intents..not all particulary spiritual. If I get married again, I want to be able to serve my husband food he enjoys. I want to be able to fix foods my son enjoys. I want to be able to serve in the mission field, and eat the food of the land. I don't want to burden others with my special food needs. I want to eat what is set before me with thanksgiving, and bless my host/hostesses by enjoying their food preparations. And Phil, You can forget the oysters! Not likely here. I have to believe God would supply manna before he would have me eat those things! | ||
| Javagirl Registered user Username: Javagirl Post Number: 619 Registered: 6-2005 |
i'm really enjoying everyone's stories. Glad we can laught at ourselves! Keri, Cooking chicken TWICE as long to clean out impurities makes perfect sense! Thanks for the suggestions, Melissa and Honestwitness. I will try them out! | ||
| Philharris Registered user Username: Philharris Post Number: 1658 Registered: 5-2007 |
Lori, That's ok! Not even my closest friends eat the way I do. As you have indicated, we have total freedom on how and what we eat. Being free of SDA restrictions is very liberating. As for the oysters, I was just having a little fun with you.  Fearless Phil | ||
| River Registered user Username: River Post Number: 4974 Registered: 9-2006  |
Phil just made me almost barf. No Oysters fer me neither. I got limits! But will someone please tell me what a BIG Frank is? Your driving me nuts with curiosity. River | ||
| Seekinglight Registered user Username: Seekinglight Post Number: 213 Registered: 3-2009 |
I didn't know you could buy a case of big franks on Amazon, lol! Here River: http://www.amazon.com/Loma-Linda-Franks-20-Ounce-Cans/dp/B000BEZVW2 I grew up with ALL the veggie meats and so I really like them even now. However, reading the mile-long list of ingredients, I have no idea why I like 'em. | ||
| River Registered user Username: River Post Number: 4975 Registered: 9-2006 |
$4.89 a can? Yall got to be rich, I didn't know I was hob nobbing with the rich crowd on here, of course with the exception of Leigh Anne who jet sets off to grease and leaves me lonely. But then she ain't Adventist. If yall can afford that, I am with the wrong crowd, of course I live in a double wide and own two Fords, but I don't flaunt it. Nosireebob. River | ||
| Seekinglight Registered user Username: Seekinglight Post Number: 214 Registered: 3-2009 |
Yeah, as a child my father was always griping about money. Now I kinda see why. 1. Tens of thousands of $$ per year for SDA education for my siblings and I. 2. 10% of before-tax income going to the church. 3. Expensive veggie meats. | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 7003 Registered: 3-2004  |
I do not eat the veggie meats any more. They are too expensive. The only time I use fake steak is when I make enchiladas for my son. I will use LL vegie burger. He is still vegetarian. I have to admire him. When they had their son my son and DIL discussed how my grandson was going to eat and both decided that he was to eat meat - all kinds. He does and he enjoys it. Diana L | ||
| River Registered user Username: River Post Number: 4976 Registered: 9-2006 |
Yall know the reason I own two Fords is just to balance out the two sides of the double wide don't you? Us Arky's got common sense. Of course you do! I can very well see why your father was griping, poor man. |
