| Author | Message | ||
| Asurprise Registered user Username: Asurprise Post Number: 2542 Registered: 7-2007 |
I have here a little pamphlet from a college that offers a FREE Gift in exchange for a donation of any size! Is that really a free gift? For any Adventists reading this, I'd like to ask you how you think salvation is a free gift, because if you've ever read the book of Romans, you know that it says that salvation is a free gift over and over again. Adventists have to work as hard as they can to be saved. Don't try to deny it. Ellen White said that the soul itself pushes out their sins in Jesus' power. So unless you're continually making progress, you [Adventists] won't be saved, according to your theology. Tell me that you believe Ephesians 2:8-9, 2nd Timothy 1:9 and Titus 3:5 where it tells believers that they HAVE BEEN SAVED, when Ellen White said that no one should believe that. The thing that grieves me, is that if you believe Ellen White, you CANNOT accept Jesus' REAL free gift. And if you don't accept Jesus' free gift, you won't be saved. | ||
| Treasurehntr Registered user Username: Treasurehntr Post Number: 121 Registered: 7-2007 |
Free? Yes, FREE! Praise Him! The thing is, even the acceptance of salvation is the work of Christ within us. | ||
| Ric_b Registered user Username: Ric_b Post Number: 1736 Registered: 7-2004  |
A truly free gift doen't have strings attached. You don't have to do something later in order to keep the free gift. I think SDAs view salvation a little bit like a payroll advance. For example, I am going to be on vacation so before I leave I pay the neighbor boy to mow the lawn and pick up the mail. He didn't do anything for the money yet. But when I return, I expect the lawn to have been mowed and the mail to be sitting in a pile on the counter. If these aren't done, I am going to ask for my money back. | ||
| Shelley68 Registered user Username: Shelley68 Post Number: 20 Registered: 3-2012 |
Yes, I believe we as free and the debt has been paid through our Lord Jesus. I heard the best resurrection sermon last night and I was baptized!!! I AM SAVED! I AM FREE! | ||
| Hec Registered user Username: Hec Post Number: 1888 Registered: 3-2009 |
Rick. I think your illustration hits the point exactly. | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 9716 Registered: 3-2004  |
Shelley68, You were baptized? Where? Praise God. Diana | ||
| Shelley68 Registered user Username: Shelley68 Post Number: 22 Registered: 3-2012 |
Diana, Yes! I was baptized at the church I have been attending since October of last year. It was a surprise to me as I had no idea they were going to do this. To top it off I had a SDA friend with me. Praise God for his unexpected ways. The funny thing is when I through out my EGW books I came across my baptismal certificate with the all the conditions I accepted to be SDA. I didn't like it at all and felt I needed to do this again in the name of Jesus as my Lord and Savior. The one who came down to live, die and be resurrected to give me eternal life. I don't need extra, just Jesus. I am so happy. I finally feel like this was the right way. In his joy! Shelley | ||
| River Registered user Username: River Post Number: 7871 Registered: 9-2006  |
Ric, Maybe yall oughta ask for your back on all the tithes you paid in. I can't see that you got your moneys worth,  | ||
| Butterfly_poette Registered user Username: Butterfly_poette Post Number: 188 Registered: 5-2011  |
SDA is nothing but legalism. The church is full of pharisees. | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 13570 Registered: 12-2003  |
Shelley, congratulations! What an awesome way to celebrate your first "born-again Easter"! Colleen | ||
| Gcfrankie Registered user Username: Gcfrankie Post Number: 890 Registered: 1-2007 |
Congradulations Shelley on your baptism into the true church of Jesus Christ. Gail | ||
| Mjcmcook Registered user Username: Mjcmcook Post Number: 449 Registered: 2-2011 |
Shelley~ I am so Happy for You! ~mj~ | ||
| Asurprise Registered user Username: Asurprise Post Number: 2549 Registered: 7-2007 |
Yes, congratulations Shelley! | ||
| Asurprise Registered user Username: Asurprise Post Number: 2550 Registered: 7-2007 |
River, I wonder if the SDA church WOULD give back all a person's tithes, if a former asked for them back? :-\ | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 9718 Registered: 3-2004 |
River and Asurprise, I have often thought I would like to ask that they refund all my tithes, seeing as I received nothing for what I put in! Diana | ||
| River Registered user Username: River Post Number: 7881 Registered: 9-2006 |
I was thinking of you when I said that Diana...thinking of what you told us maybe three or four years ago. It might have rubbed some salt into the wound, but was not intended as such, but always in sympathy with you in love and not to be heartless. Your story left a lasting impression on me about how Adventism, from the top down, reaches into the pockets of those who cannot afford being robbed through spiritual abuse and intimidation. River | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 9719 Registered: 3-2004 |
River, I forgave you long ago. I am sure I was not the only one who thought like I did as an sda. I thank God for caring for me through all these years. Diana |
