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Tealeaves
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Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2004 - 12:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anyone have the scoop on this "Clear Word Bible"? I asked my SDA in-laws about it, and they say they use it but had no idea that it was "Adventized" or "Ellen-ized". They just thought it was a "clearer" easier to read version.
They are SDA school teachers, and they use it to teach religion to the school children.

Does anyone know exactly how it was drafted? My in-laws say it doesn't contain EGW quotes, but it was my understanding that it did. Or maybe I have it confused with a different "SDA translation". Anyone have any insight??
Susan_2
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Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2004 - 2:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Go to the links and several of the different links are quite extensive on the abberations of that book the SDA's try to pass off as a Bible. Also, scroll down on this disussion forum as well as in the archives and there is a lot about the Jumbled Word Non-bible.

Colleentinker
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Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2004 - 10:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jack Blanco "paraphrased" the Bible in the early 90s--I believe The Clear Word came out in '94 or thereabouts. (When it first came out, it was called "the Clear Word Bible".) He wrote SDA theology into it; he added several hundred words to the book of Daniel, and he really watered down the deity of Christ. (Look for the next Proclamation which should be in the mail as we speak; Jeffrey Helsius wrote a resignation letter which delineates many theological problems in The Clear Word.) At the time he "wrote" the book, Blanco was chairman of the theology dept. at Southern Adventist University. It was supposedly a "privately" published book, not officially SDA, but the Review and Herald Publishing ASsoc. printed it, and it is sold in ABCs. It does not contain EGW quotes, but the theology woven into it is derived from Ellen and Adventist doctrines. It is a denominational "Bible" in a very real sense. When you compare it passage by passage with an authorized translation, it becomes clear that the message in many places is clearly added to or changed from the Bible's original meaning.

It's dangerous, and it makes SDA theology much more "findable" in the "Bible". The unsuspecting person who didn't know what it was would be led astray.

Colleen
Susan_2
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Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2004 - 10:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

On one website there is a side by side text by text comparison. It's really very changed from what the real Bible says. But then, SDA's don't seem to give much credit to what the Bible says. The credit is rather given to their doctrines. I sat in at the potluck today at the local SDA church and listened to a table full of people discuss how much Jesus and his deciples and His other followers liked having fellowship meals after His teaching. They know this beacuse in the N.T. after Jesus teaches they break bread together. These SDA's were talking about how ignorant most Christians are because most Christians think the term "break bread" means Communion when the Adventists know the truth is that "break bread" means potluck. Since I am a guest in their facility and I understand the term "break bread" to mean Communion I just went out and waited in the car for my mother. They also know "break bread" cannot possibly mean Commuion because is was partaken of on different days of the week other than Sabbath and Communion is only supposed to be taken on Sabbath. hen several people said that even the SDA church has Communion wrong because Communion is to be taken only once per year on Passover. And, these are Adventists in an Adventist church saying this. This is when I went to the car. Oh, Lordy, I just couldn't take it no more! Lord, have mercy!
Tealeaves
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Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2004 - 4:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks, guys, for the info. I thought that there were actual EGW quotes in it. This sounds even more dangerous, however. I'll definitely be looking into it.
It breaks my heart that this is what they are using to teach religion to their schoolchildren!
Colleentinker
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Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2004 - 7:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Susan, you made me laugh! It's just all too true--and it just sounds so CRAZY when you see it all spelled out. My goodness, we were there!

Colleen
Pw
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Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 - 8:46 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm sure this Clear Word version of their bible resembles the New World Translation of the Jehovah Witnesses. They probably twisted it around even moreso to show a lot of emphasis on the Sabbath.
Susan_2
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Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 - 9:37 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In a way it is more twisted in that entire passages are either greatly added to or greatly taken away from. I understand at first it was named The Clear Word Bible but in later editions they have left off the word Bible from the title and front cover. And, the SDA's I know like to make a big deal over "How the Catholics changed the Bible". Well, I have read several of the Catholic versions, I even have a New Jerseulem Bible and I have looked up the texts in question in their other translations. In one translation the commandment about graven images is left out, however it is in the footnotes with a comment about Bibical scholars not agreeing if it should or should not be included. There also is a text in the Book of John that only the Kings James Version has, with the other translations havng a footnote about scholars not agreeing on it. I generally believe most SDA's just believe whatever the SDA minsters and especially the SDA evengalists tell them without looking anything up for themselves. Like, for instance, I have had numerous SDA's tell me that Catholics have changed this or that and even that the Catholics have changed the Bible from the way God wanted it. I will tell them I'll go home and get my New Jerselum Bible and I want them to show it to me. I have never yet had a SDA take me up on this. I think they are afriad to open a "Catholic Bible". To them this would be considered Christian porn. Well, to me those Annoying Fiction books are "Christian"porn". And, then I generally have to add to these SDA's that the Catholics have many mpre books in their Bible than the Prostatents do and the Orthodox Christians have even more books than the Catholics. But, yeah, the title "the Clear Word Bible" is an oxymoron. It is not clear and it is not a Bible.
Pw
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Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 - 10:22 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The best ammunition to use is when anyone claims that the Bible is full of contadictions. Ask them to show you where, 9 times out of 10 they have no idea what they are even referring to. They are just quoting something they heard.

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