Post Number: 7
|Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 4:43 am: || |
I was truly decieved,my hubby told me the only difference between my church and his,was that his church obeyed the ten commandments complety.Meaning to him [The Sabbath Truth]. I almost feel after 4 years of listening to sermons[Various EGW Books were always on the pulpit next to the Bible] trying to convince my family and friends the SDA church was the [True Church].For 4 years being active and helping others in the church. I felt after leaving the church, I had been decieved,and the church with thier theology,EGW writings,and thier laws, and the whole doing good works to ensure your salvation [according to SDA doctrine God is going to judge us on our good works]and it better be sufficient enough to attain your salvation!I felt they had robbed me of my God Given right -to know that I'm saved by Grace throught Faith!Boy,when I left that church had me confused and somewhat bitter,yet sad for them,too. I have good friends and family members in the SDA chuch, I pray for them daily-I always say to myself [Let Good Believer do the Praying and Let the Good Lord do the Rest]!God loves them despite their ignorance, but I think it saddens Jesus to see the SDA church misleading potential believers about salvation[works to SDA's],and not understanding about the True Jesus,the Perfect Final Atonement,who ,gave his life for us,that we may live for Him. His Grace is sufficient for all who truly confess Him in their hearts! SDA good works,laws,health reform,and their theology of knowledge [being God's Remant]and [present truth]aren't sufficient to gain or earn our salvation. Most Importantly, the SabbathKeeping makes them no more righteous then any other true believer.Our Righteousness is is in Christ! His Righteousness is suffient for all believers!We all fall short no matter how hard we try not to stumble,we still will fall! That's why we are truly saved by His Grace through geniune Faith in Him, our Savior and Redeemer! EGW would probally be rolling in her grave if she knew FA's were writing, teaching, and testifying to geniune Biblical Truths, and not [[SDA Truths] which she formed and preached. If you think about it she's almost commited iodoltry herself, by creating her own ideas of God and God's judgement,and her ideas of salvation, and her ideas of the sanctuary doctrine,EGW has created her own god in preaching and teaching these unbiblical doctrines,it almost seems as If SDA's follow EGW's God, and not the True Almighty God. I'ts spiritual warfare and we need to pray for Adventists,they don't understand the True Gospel, the True Jesus,the true gift of Salvation by Grace through Faith,not one of works.They don't understand our salvation is in Jesus Christ,alone. Anything is possible when we put our trust in Christ, that SDA's may come to know the True Gospel and the True Christ!
Post Number: 477
|Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 6:57 am: || |
"Our Righteousness is is in Christ!" Cortney, how true.
I'm getting really good at reminding my husband that the 10 commandments were part of the law given to ISREAL. (Then I ask him are you Isreal?)I also ask him if he knows where the 10 C's and the law separate, and of course, he can't answer that one. Lastly I like to remind him that SDA's don't/can't/won't even keep the Sabbath properly, according to the way the Sabbath was set up in the OT. That usually gets a quick subject change out of my hubby.
I can totally relate how frustrated you are! Hang in there. I've learned so much from this forum and feel so much more equipped than I did a year ago before I found it!
Post Number: 438
|Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 12:16 pm: || |
The spiritual abuse is very similar to physical abuse, and the term violated is properly used in this context. What is really troubling is the fact that even those who are escaping from adventism and testify about the viol, are continually insulted by the former abuser. Somehow we can come to accept the situation, and take it as the price of knowing Christ, walking through the narrow path.
There is a walk by faith, with Jesus, going outside of adventism, is like going outside the camp.
"And so Jesus also suffered outside the city gate to make the people holy through his own blood. Let us, then, go to him outside the camp, bearing the disgrace he bore." Hebrews 13:12,13
Post Number: 5489
|Posted on Sunday, March 04, 2007 - 6:58 pm: || |
Cortney, I so understand your experience and your feelings of being betrayed and violated (good word, Jackob).
Jackob, you make such an excellent point regarding our needing to follow Jesus outside the camp and bearing the disgrace He bore. That text in Hebrews really does speak to our experience.
I've noticed that sometimes people who discover that Adventism is a false gospel and Ellen White is untrustworthy are willing to leave the church, but they try desperately to avoid bearing the disgrace. Even though they know Adventism is false, they still want their Adventist friends and loved ones to feel OK about them, and they are also reluctant to deeply acknowledge their own vulnerableness to the evil that defines Adventism. They shy away from the disgrace.
Using Jackob's abuse analogy, the situation is much like an abused person leaving the parent that abused them but never really admitting that the abuser was perpetrating evil. Instead (as I've seen several people do in real life), they rationalize and think that their own parent couldn't have been that bad; sure, there were some frightening times, but no, their parent wasn't really an all-out abuser, and they aren't really the victims of immoral and cruel acts.
Until we can actually admit the truth to ourselves, we cannot heal from the abuse. We keep parts of our heart locked away from the light of truth and reality (it's called denial), and we inevitably act out our repressed anger and grief in ways that don't make sense to those watching. And, as Jackob further pointed out, when we do admit the truth and do not become intimidated by fear, our Adventist loved ones often demean our experience, dismissing us by saying we're "bitter" or "over-reacting".
You're right, Jackobóthe book of Hebrews actually instructs us how to proceed when we realize the truth about Adventism and follow Jesus out. We follow him "outside the camp, bearing the disgrace he bore."
We take the arrows for Him.
Post Number: 22
|Posted on Monday, May 21, 2007 - 7:26 pm: || |
I've been called a "Rebel" by some SDAs, hence my username Reb.
At first my wife even called me a rebel but now she's come around where she hasn't don't that lately