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| Jorgfe Registered user Username: Jorgfe Post Number: 1329 Registered: 11-2005 |
Exposing Adventism - Take the tithe test Take the following True or False quiz to see how much you really understand about tithing. I predict that many of you will be surprised. Record your answers.
Gilbert Jorgensen | ||
| Larry Registered user Username: Larry Post Number: 601 Registered: 5-2007 |
Another bonus question: Tithe money can be used to purchase alcoholic beverages. True or False? | ||
| Jorgfe Registered user Username: Jorgfe Post Number: 1330 Registered: 11-2005 |
Larry, you need to post that one on CARM.  Gilbert Jorgensen | ||
| Jorgfe Registered user Username: Jorgfe Post Number: 1335 Registered: 11-2005 |
1. The Lord Jesus Christ would have tithed of His income. This one is false. The Lord Jesus Christ was a carpenter by profession and then after He became 30 years old He was a preacher and teacher. Neither of these professions was required by the Law of Moses to tithe anything. Gilbert Jorgensen | ||
| Jorgfe Registered user Username: Jorgfe Post Number: 1336 Registered: 11-2005 |
2. Simon Peter, originally a fisherman, would have tithed of the fish that he caught. This one is false also. Fishermen were not required to tithe anything either. There were only two kinds of professions in ancient Israel that were required to tithe. Farmers and husbandmen (shepherds and cattle herders) were the only tithers in ancient Israel. They only tithed the food they produced. Gilbert Jorgensen | ||
| Jorgfe Registered user Username: Jorgfe Post Number: 1337 Registered: 11-2005 |
3. Everyone in the Old Testament seeking to obey the Law of Moses would have tithed. It should be evident by now that this one is false also. There were many people with other professions who were not required by the Law to tithe. For instance, the apostle Paul being a tent-maker was not required to tithe. In fact, none of the Twelve apostles would have been tithers because none of them came from the required professions. Gilbert Jorgensen | ||
| Jorgfe Registered user Username: Jorgfe Post Number: 1338 Registered: 11-2005 |
4. Abraham tithed to Melchizedek in the same way that believers tithe to the Lord Jesus Christ. This one is false also. Abraham’s tithe was very different than what the Church practices today. For instance, Abraham only tithed once. The Church tithes continually. Abraham tithed of the spoils of a war. The Church tithes of its income. Abraham had no increase because he gave the other 90% of the spoils of the war back to the original owner. The Church tithes of its increase. There is no commandment or any logic or indication in the New Testament that believers are to tithe anything to the Lord Jesus Christ. Believers are to give generously as God blesses them and whatever is in their heart according to Paul (2 Corinthians 9:7, 1 Corinthians 16:1-2). Gilbert Jorgensen | ||
| Jorgfe Registered user Username: Jorgfe Post Number: 1344 Registered: 11-2005 |
5. The Lord Jesus Christ taught His disciples that they should tithe. False. Christ only makes three statements about tithing. None of these statements say that His disciples should tithe anything. Christ's first statement, repeated in two Gospels, is spoken to the Pharisees not to His disciples. (Mattthew 23:23, Luke 11:42) In that statement, Christ says that the Pharisees should continue to tithe mint, dill and cummin. This is a tithe of food not money. He also says that this tithe of food is a part of the Law and says that it is not even an important part of the Law. His other statement is about a self-righteous Pharisee bragging that he tithes. Christ says that the other man who was not tithing who humbled himself was justified in the sight of God. The self-righteous tither was not justified in the sight of God. This is hardly an encouragement for Christ’s disciples to tithe money. Gilbert Jorgensen | ||
| Jorgfe Registered user Username: Jorgfe Post Number: 1348 Registered: 11-2005 |
6. There are many examples of people tithing of their incomes in the Bible. False. In 4000 years of recorded biblical history there is not a single example of what the Church practices today in tithing money. There are two one-time acts of tithing recorded before the Law. Neither man, Abraham or Jacob, seems to think that they should continue this process beyond the one-time act. Neither man is tithing of their income since each is only involved in a one-time act. Abraham is tithing of the spoils of a war. Neither man seems to teach their children to tithe. All the other tithing recorded in the Bible is found in the Law of Moses. In the Law, money was never used to tithe only food. In fact, when someone wanted to use money rather than bring the produce to Jerusalem, God required a 20% penalty to be added. (Leviticus 27:30-31) In other words, God discouraged the tithing of money. Gilbert Jorgensen | ||
| Jorgfe Registered user Username: Jorgfe Post Number: 1352 Registered: 11-2005 |
7. The New Testament teaches that we should tithe to ministers in the same way that Jews tithed to the Priests. False. The New Testament has nothing at all to say about this. This is extra-biblical logic that is not found in the New Testament. In fact, the Book of Hebrews makes it clear that believers are not of the Levitical order of priests. Believers are of a higher order, the order of Melchizedek. Gilbert Jorgensen | ||
| Larry Registered user Username: Larry Post Number: 666 Registered: 5-2007 |
Gilbert, Hebrews says that upon the basis of the priesthood, the law was given. Gentile believers DO NOT have a Levitical priesthood, so Levitical tithe laws cannot ever apply. The other side to the coin is that we now have a High Priest in the order of Melchizidek. I suppose one could follow Abrahams actions, giving a tenth of war plunder to a priest of that order! There are not many left who give a tenth of war plunder. | ||
| Helovesme2 Registered user Username: Helovesme2 Post Number: 1718 Registered: 8-2004  |
Larry wrote: "There are not many left who give a tenth of war plunder."  And there are even fewer who give the other 90% back to the people they plundered it from! | ||
| Jorgfe Registered user Username: Jorgfe Post Number: 1357 Registered: 11-2005 |
8. The Bible teaches that God’s standard for giving is ten-percent. False. Neither the Old Testament nor the New Testament teaches this. This is extra-biblical logic again. First of all, the food tithe in the Old Testament was not ten-percent. It was actually more like 23% annually on average. There were three tithes in the Law of Moses. The first tithe was paid only by agrarian families three times yearly at the feasts to the Priests in Jerusalem. The second tithe was saved by the agrarian families to support these trips. It was called the festival tithe. It was for a family vacation. The third tithe was given every three years to the local storehouse, so it amounted to about 3% annually. This was the poor tithe collected for those in need. This is the tithe that Malachi wrote about. None of these tithes were money. They were only food. Those who earned their livings by other occupations did not pay a tithe of anything. However, they did give offerings required by the Law some of which were in silver, gold, bronze and copper coins. Nowhere does the New Testament change this legal obligation of tithing food for some agrarian Israelites in the Law to money tithing for all Christians. This transformation of the food tithe to a money tithe is done by teaching that our harvest is our income and bringing us under a spiritualized form of the Law of Moses. Gilbert Jorgensen | ||
| Jorgfe Registered user Username: Jorgfe Post Number: 1366 Registered: 11-2005 |
8. The righteous poor tithed in the Old Testament. False. The poor had no harvest or flocks to tithe from. They were able to glean the corners of the field of those who were more prosperous. Gilbert Jorgensen | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 6002 Registered: 3-2004  |
God taught me correctly when I read the NT almost 5 years ago. I answered them all as false. Thank you awesome God. Diana L | ||
| Jorgfe Registered user Username: Jorgfe Post Number: 1390 Registered: 11-2005 |
10. Since everyone is held to the same standard, tithing is fair to everyone. False. Tithing is incredibly unfair. Ten-percent of the income of a poor person is a great burden, while ten-percent of the income of a rich person may be no burden at all. If a person only has a $1000 a month income, then $100 of that income will affect their lifestyle and may even impact their ability to take care of their children’s basic needs and pay their bills. If a person has a $10,000 a month income then giving $1,000 per month should have little affect on their lifestyle since they should have a good amount of disposable income beyond their basic needs. If a person has a $100,000 a month income, then $10,000 a month has no appreciable affect on their lifestyle at all. Some continue to teach tithing to poor persons by arguing that if the poor person will give ten-percent of their income then God will bless them. However, coming under a spiritualized form of the Law will hinder God’s blessing in finances. The poor should simply obey the Lord as He guides them in giving. Gilbert Jorgensen |
