Post Number: 44
|Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2013 - 7:46 pm: || |
So an SDA pastor just posted this Ellen White quote on his Facebook. He is a very mainstream SDA pastor who is well respected by the conference. He is also on the younger side. Guys, historic Adventism us still alive and well.
"The third angel's message is infallible. Upon the grand, ennobling truths connected with that message you can dwell with perfect safety." Ellen G. White
Post Number: 14446
|Posted on Tuesday, May 21, 2013 - 10:35 pm: || |
Ugh. Sigh. It's really sad..and it's also really brash and deceitful. To make claims like that about a contrived "message"...the Adventist interpretation of that third angel's message does not come from that passage.
Revelation 14 nowhere hints that those who worship on Sunday receive the mark of the beast because of embracing a false Sabbath.
Post Number: 3095
|Posted on Wednesday, May 22, 2013 - 11:15 am: || |
I suspect that Adventists will be totally blindsided by the mark of the beast when it comes, because (though I don't know just what it will be), it'll be so completely different than what Adventists are expecting. Possibly they'll embrace it wholeheartedly.
I think the more "evangelical" type Adventists are in more danger than historic Adventists because they know just enough about real salvation and believe just enough of what the Adventist church teaches, to think they're doing okay. They aren't though. They're "riding the fence," "halting between two opinions" so to speak. Therefore they're not really accepting Jesus' finished work, while at the same time lulled into a false sense of security.
As an Adventist, I was in that "boat" too. When I went to the SDA Redwoods camp meeting years ago, I sang joyous songs with the rest of the congregation in the young adults tent and listened to the upbeat sermons - almost, but not quite accepting Jesus' finished work on the cross - because I thought part of "IT" was up to me! I shook my head in wonder at the many older people who were there whose faces were filled with sadness and despair. Can't they see it?! I wondered to myself. The gospel is GOOD news! But I didn't see it myself. I was riding the fence too.
Perhaps the despair the older people feel will help drive them to Jesus for real before it's too late. People who think they're doing okay like the people in the SDA young adults tent, usually aren't!
Post Number: 30
|Posted on Thursday, May 23, 2013 - 3:44 pm: || |
Asurprise....now you got me going. If there is anything from Adventism I don't want to give up it's Redwood Campmeeting, Adult II tent (formerly young adult). I still have been planning to go this year, but now questioning whether I should. I have always been majorly spiritually blessed in that tent. I don't recall seeing much sadness around me in the last few years. I have lots of friends who go. My friends who attend the big tent are the sad looking ones. Well, guess it is something I need to pray about. Seems like it would give opportunity to share the gospel some.
Post Number: 3098
|Posted on Friday, May 24, 2013 - 11:55 am: || |
Now, it seems to me that a born again Christian wouldn't have any trouble going to that tent because they DO understand the gospel and (I think) the speakers are presenting the gospel whether they realize it or not. [It's been quite a few years ago now since I've been, so I don't know if I'm remembering this right.]
What I mean is, I myself didn't understand the gospel because I was looking from an Adventist viewpoint. I couldn't quite accept what they said completely, but it sounded wonderful and gave me a sort of hope. Am I making any sense? It's hard to articulate this right.
I greatly enjoyed the upbeat evangelical sermons and music, but even though I pushed it away for a time, there was always a "yes, but..." in the back of my mind.
(I actually enjoyed the evening meetings in the big tent too because the speakers gave much more gospel oriented sermons during that time.)
Maybe the older despairing people go to campmeeting because they're trying to obtain the ever-elusive hope that they're seeking and cannot obtain while being true to the church's doctrines. The speakers DO seem to present the true gospel sometimes during campmeeting, but of course any Adventist (including the speakers) cannot "get" it because of their religion.
When I was an Adventist, I myself would try to balance Ephesians 2:8-9, for example, with what Ellen White said and try to come up with a sort of "middle ground" which still didn't give me any real hope.
(Message edited by Asurprise on May 24, 2013)
Post Number: 445
|Posted on Friday, May 24, 2013 - 12:39 pm: || |
My favorite thing about campmeeting, and i have only attended Sequel and when i was very young Lynwood was the vege corndogs. Could someone please send me the recipe for that yellow dip that the corndogs was dipped on? Campmeeting was worth the time and expense for just the vege corndogs. Yummm.
Post Number: 1099
|Posted on Saturday, May 25, 2013 - 9:34 am: || |
Is there a market near you where you can purchase "vegelinks"?! The corn-dogs would
not taste the same if you used meat frankfurters!
I imagine the breading around the "dog" was a thinned down version
of cornbread mix! nothing magical about that!!
Is this what you meant by a "dipping sauce"?
Post Number: 446
|Posted on Saturday, May 25, 2013 - 1:19 pm: || |
Mj, At Soquel campmeeting the corndogs were dipped in a yellow sauce. SDA's don't use mustard but it.looked like mustard. I've heard the base was tofu. I assume the yellow color was a dollop of tumeric. It had pickle relish in it. Was super duper yummy. An old SDA cookbook should have the recipe but i don't anymore have any SDA cookbooks.
Post Number: 316
|Posted on Sunday, May 26, 2013 - 1:04 pm: || |
I love the veggie corndogs! I haven't had those in years. I should get some the next time I am at the ABC store. I am still hooked on some veggie meat.
Post Number: 449
|Posted on Sunday, May 26, 2013 - 2:30 pm: || |
Once agsin, as usual almost no matter want the topic is titled we get distracted and go to the food issues. Depending on your need to sever ties wish AdventistisiAdventistismi I would like to suggest the ABC has case sales several times annually for areas where three is no ABC easily accessible.
Post Number: 1337
|Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2013 - 12:19 am: || |
Punababe, I used to go to Lynwood camp meeting when I was little, too--we stayed in real tents. Yeah, the yellow stuff is turmeric. I bet they used actual mayo back in the 60s--but now it would have to be "vegenaise" (just the sound of that makes me LOL.
The best part of camp meeting for me was craft time. And some of the kids songs...
...and you can find the batter recipe for corn dogs online or in any cookbook. They have to be deep-fat fried, though.
Post Number: 10010
|Posted on Wednesday, May 29, 2013 - 9:01 am: || |
I used to go to the Lynwood campmeeting also. Stayed in a tent even though we lived close by.
Don't remember much about the food though.