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Username: Carracio

Post Number: 37
Registered: 3-2014
Posted on Sunday, July 06, 2014 - 3:26 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Today in Church we had a sermon about John 2, about the water turned into wine. When we read the tekst I was thinking about the next theory. I was wondering what you think about it.

On the third day there was a wedding in Cana of Galilee, and the mother of Jesus was there. 2 Now both Jesus and His disciples were invited to the wedding. 3 And when they ran out of wine, the mother of Jesus said to Him, “They have no wine.”

4 Jesus said to her, “Woman, what does your concern have to do with Me? My hour has not yet come.”

5 His mother said to the servants, “Whatever He says to you, do it.”

6 Now there were set there six waterpots of stone, according to the manner of purification of the Jews, containing twenty or thirty gallons apiece. 7 Jesus said to them, “Fill the waterpots with water.” And they filled them up to the brim. 8 And He said to them, “Draw some out now, and take it to the master of the feast.” And they took it. 9 When the master of the feast had tasted the water that was made wine, and did not know where it came from (but the servants who had drawn the water knew), the master of the feast called the bridegroom. 10 And he said to him, “Every man at the beginning sets out the good wine, and when the guests have well drunk, then the inferior. You have kept the good wine until now!”

11 This beginning of signs Jesus did in Cana of Galilee, and manifested His glory; and His disciples believed in Him.

12 After this He went down to Capernaum, He, His mother, His brothers, and His disciples; and they did not stay there many days.

Jesus went to this wedding. In the Bible weddings are sometimes used to show our relationship with God. So my theory was:

There was a wedding (between us and God) but we ran out of wine. This means our relationship was broken with God (having wine at a marriage was very very important in those days). Israel tried to do redeem by itself by keeping the law, not by faith. But then Jesus came. And he gave us even better wine (new covenant with new laws instead of de Mosaic) so we could party till eternity with God. In the first verse it says 'On the third day', meaning the Resurrection(?)

Am I off tracks?
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Username: Colleentinker

Post Number: 14867
Registered: 12-2003

Posted on Monday, July 07, 2014 - 12:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Carracio, this is an interesting analogy. I don't believe, however, that it is the actual meaning of the passage. It is important to understand the original meaning and to see what Jesus was actually teaching before trying to apply the passage to ourselves.

While I think we can deduce some interesting things about the fact that Jesus' first miracle was done at a wedding, the primary lesson from this miracle is that Jesus revealed Himself as the Messiah—God the Son— by His power over the elements of nature. John calls this miracle a "sign", and John records seven "signs" that Jesus did to reveal His true identity.

This "sign" was His first. Only God could alter the nature of water to make it literally a different substance without doing a chemical intervention. He demonstrated His power over water; He literally created something new. There's even an echo of Genesis 1 when God (identified as the Lord Jesus in John 1, just one chapter before the water-into-wine story) created the world when darkness hovered over the face of the deep.

Second, Jesus also demonstrated His authority apart from His mother's desire and pride. He was a bit stern when He said, "Woman, my time is not yet come." He was reserving the right to announce and reveal the time of His signs without any assistance or push from his mom. He was letting her—and us—know that His intervention was not because of emotional pressure from anyone. His acts were on His and the Father's schedule.

It is interesting to note that the pots Jesus instructed the stewards to fill with water were not food vessels; they were washing pots, as for ceremonial washings. While one can't make too big a "deal" out of this observation, it is, nonetheless, interesting that He transformed the water put into the vessels for ceremonial washings into wine...better wine than they had before. I think there is a way this can be seen as a foreshadowing of His fulfilling the ceremonies of cleansing and giving Israel His blood, represented later by the wine of the Passover meal, as their new cleansing. Also, there is that "new wine" comparison as well. But in the context of this story, one can see He replaced ceremonial cleansing water with the best wine.

It's really important not to speculate beyond what the actual story or passage states. While I do believe we can make some of these comparisons, we have to remember the one central meaning of the passage: this was a sign, as John clearly said, indicating Jesus' identity as the promised Messiah, God the Son. Our understanding of this miracle has to be seen in the light of Jesus revealing His own identity and nature. It was primarily about Him, not about us.


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