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Hec
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Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2010 - 2:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, River, ask the cow!

Hec
Clintonc
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Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2010 - 2:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Vivian, HAHAH!!!!..that is a great story, hadn't heard that one yet.
Ah...scallops..yes, best fried! There's no saving vegelinks (superlinks were good though) in my opinion, even fried they taste awful. Bleh.

Now a little trivia for you all..can any of you remember the cousin of the famous vege-scallop?

Hint, they are also served via can!

Yes, we really were into pretending. I didn't realize that till I left of course. Fake bacon, fake hamburger, fake seafood. Then of course, most of it no where near resembles the real stuff.

I love Homer Simpson's quote: "If God didn't want us to eat animals, he shouldn't have made them out of meat"
Cortney
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Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2010 - 2:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Funny, that's exactly what Sarah Palin wrote in her book(I just finished reading it), Clintonc.. "If God didn't want us to eat animals, he shouldn't have made them out of meat". and a darn good point, if we wern't meant to consume meat why is it edible and why does it provide our bodies with needed nutrition? My health-care provider told me to try eating fish or take fish oil, and it indeed helped my under-the-weather mood. And Jesus ate it, too!
Flyinglady
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Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2010 - 2:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I used to call all the vegetarian food "fake steak" no matter who made it. That was as an addventist. My son still eats it, not because of sda beliefs, but it is something he is used to eating. When my grandson came along they agreed he would eat meat. I am glad. I have apologized to my son for raising him vegetarian.
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Hec
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Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2010 - 2:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cousing of the vege-scallop? Tender bits?

Clinton says:

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Yes, we really were into pretending. I didn't realize that till I left of course. Fake bacon, fake hamburger, fake seafood.




Would you like to change your statement to:
Fake bacon, fake hamburger, fake seafood, and fake gospel.?

Hec
Clintonc
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Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2010 - 2:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yep, tender bits! Tender..maybe? Bits..yeah..not as big a choplet. No flavor...oh yeah!

Yes, Hec, I'd agree.
1john2v27nlt
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Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2010 - 3:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cortney,
I've been taking fermented cod liver oil & it really helps my mood too. Plus it's a good source of vitamin D & is very good for the retina of the eye (which is an issue for me).

Not only did Jesus eat fish & lamb - He ate it after He had ascended to heaven & had His glorified body AND prepared & served it to the disciples.

What evil had been done in the name of 'health message'. Anti-biblical, anti-health, anti-real food, anti-Christ. Did I miss anything?
J9
Yenc
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Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2010 - 3:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

J9,
I just looked at a bunch of reliable nutrition websites, and there are virtually NO-ZIP-ZILCH vitamins at all in lard!!!!! Cod liver oil is WAYYYYY beyond that! Lard is essentially fat and nothing else nutritionally!
Yenc
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Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2010 - 4:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As far as food being "processed" is concerned, we "process" food every time we take a seed out of an avocado, peel a banana, bake a potato or trim the fat from a steak! Even chewing changes food chemically! Gluten is simply wheat flour that has been mixed with water, kneaded well, then has had the starch washed out of it. I've made it myself, and do not consider it anything to be totally despised because it is "processed"!

I enjoy the humor and I see no harm in laughing at the absurd extremes people will go to in fanaticism. On the other side of the coin, let's not lose sight of reality. Eating too much candy is bad, but a little won't harm a healthy person. Same with almost every other food product, including carrots, wine, salt, Vege-whatsits, shrimp, prunes--you name it.

The SDA emphasis on food distracts from the Gospel and makes "sin" where there is no sin! Bottom line--it doesn't matter what you or I or SDAs eat! It's the focus on such trivia--making it doctrinal--that is absolutely wrong! But we can fall into the same trap if we "Formers" make too big an issue of it, too. In other words-- Have a few laughs, then go eat whatever you want, in moderation, giving God the thanks and the glory for His gifts--all of them!
Hec
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Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2010 - 4:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yenc, I want some of your gluten. I like the homemade variety. I had a very carnivore aunt who liked t make gluten. She would boil it in a very rich broth made of all kinds of veggies she could find. Then she would season it and fried it or cook it like chicken catiatori (sp?) Very good.

Hec
Indy4now
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Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2010 - 4:47 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I LOVED tender bits!!! ... and I also love nuteena... ok, I'm out of the closet now! Although I haven't had any in a really long time. I do believe in the real gospel and I don't believe it has a right arm! ha!

vivian
Dennis
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Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2010 - 5:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, lard is readily available in super markets throughout Nebraska. I just saw several gallon cans full of it at my local food store. Even worse is seeing the small tin can on the stove with pork fat drippings. We live near major pork processing plants (i.e., Crete, Nebraska, etc.). Many people from Mexico work at these slaughter houses. It is a significant part of our agricultural economy.

I remember the days when public school cafeterias used commodity peanut butter that had lard in it instead of vegetable shortening to create smoothness. Lard and peanut butter do not blend well for my taste buds (smile). However, as an Adventist public school student, I ate the peanut butter anyway--although reluctantly. The reason why most cracker and cookie companies no longer use lard or beef fat is that vegetable shortening lengthens the shelf life and doesn't overpower the product in taste.

Dennis Fischer
River
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Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2010 - 6:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My wife and I just had a BLT for supper, I cooked up a half pound of bacon, and ate two sandwiches.

But I hadn't had bacon in about a month, I most generally eat raisin bran for breakfast, but the BLT's were really good for a change. So I guess I scraped up against the old Lard barrel tonight.
River
1john2v27nlt
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Posted on Wednesday, August 11, 2010 - 6:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yenc,
I'm not meaning to start a debate, nor hijack this thread & the humor.

Here's my source for the vitamin D in lard statement: According to Mary Enig, author of Know Your Fats, lard is about 40 percent saturated, 50 percent monounsaturated, and contains 10 percent polyunsaturated fatty acids. It is also one of our richest dietary sources of vitamin D.

Who is Mary Enig, Ph D?

She is a nutritionist/biochemist of international renown for her research on the nutritional aspects of fats and oils, is a consultant, clinician, and the Director of the Nutritional Sciences Division of Enig Associates, Inc., Silver Spring, Maryland. Dr. Enig, a consultant on nutrition to individuals, industry, and state and federal governments, is a licensed practitioner in Maryland and the District of Columbia. She has served as a Contributing Editor of the scientific journal Clinical Nutrition and a Consulting Editor of the Journal of the American College of Nutrition.

Dr. Enig has authored numerous journal publications, mainly on fats and oils research and nutrient/drug interactions, and is a well-known invited lecturer at scientific meetings and a popular interviewee on TV and radio shows about nutrition. She was an early and articulate critic of the use of trans fatty acids and advocated their inclusion in nutritional labeling; the scientific mainstream is now challenging the food product industry's use of trans-containing partially hydrogenated vegetable oils. She received her Ph.D. in Nutritional Sciences from the University of Maryland, College Park, and is a Fellow of The American College of Nutrition, a member of The American Society for Nutritional Sciences, and President of the Maryland Nutritionists Association.

www.enig.com

featured articles by Enig:
Health and Nutritional Benefits from Coconut Oil: An Important Functional Food for the 21st Century
The Oiling of America (in collaboration with Sally Fallon)
The Skinny on Fats -- Diabetic Diets (in collaboration with Sally Fallon)

FWIW

J9
Yenc
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Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 10:12 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

J9,
I've just done a lot more research on-line, and I accept your statement about lard as a source of vitamin D, but with a caveat: Apparently the pigs have to be range-raised and exposed to a lot of sunlight for the fat to develop the vitamin D. You can also supply/manufacture your own Vitamin D by exposing your own skin to sunlight regularly, stopping just short of the reddening of sunburn, but most of us in today's culture don't get enough sunshine to produce this effect, so we need to get our Vitamin D from other sources.

Many of the analyses I saw today listed lard as a good source of Vit. D, but others said it had 0% Vitamin D, so I guess it depends on the source of the lard they analyzed, whether range-fed or raised indoors. And that makes sense to me.

Thanks for putting me onto an interesting project! I love learning new stuff I never even wondered about before! LARD, indeed! HA! Who woulda guessed!
Bb
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Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 1:16 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Vivan, the only thing I have a little fondness left for in adventism is a few of the fake meats. I guess when you grow up eating something you can't help it! I eat meat a lot more than vegemeat but I occasionally indulge :-)

The other day I had a box of a spicy garlic chicken mix with rice and instead of real chicken I used tender bits. It was soooooooo good!
Indy4now
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Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 4:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I like that Bb... "a little fondness"! ha! I also occasionally "indulge" in veggie meat when I go to my brother's house. Last week he brought a can of nuteena for me. Nobody else in my family will even touch it... so it's ALL mine! :-) That spicy garlic chicken with the tender bits sounds really good. I like those tender bits right out of the can!

I read the other day in the Foodnetwork magazine about highly processed soy foods. A person wrote in and asked if it was safe to drink soy milk. The person who answered said it was fine... but that studies were showing that eating extreme amounts (whatever that is) of highly processed soy products can lead to fertility issues and thyroid problems. (FoodNetwork Magazine, Sept. 2009, p.44) So it's better not to "indulge" in the fake meats.

vivian
1john2v27nlt
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Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 5:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yenc,
I'm glad you found the info & absolutely the pigs need to be well raised - as is true for all the meat, dairy, & eggs we eat. That is the way it was for 1000s of years, until about 100 years ago.

Anyway - back to the humor!
J9
Grace_alone
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Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 8:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You people are gross!!

LA
River
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Posted on Thursday, August 12, 2010 - 9:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey! Watch it sugar plum! I was just fixing to opine, now I ain't. :-)

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