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| Dennis
Registered user Username: Dennis Post Number: 1852 Registered: 4-2000  |
As we lament the horrible, tragic earthquake in Haiti, let us take renewed courage from the following passage:
Dennis Fischer | ||
| Nowisee
Registered user Username: Nowisee Post Number: 240 Registered: 5-2009 |
Wonderful, wonderful! God's word is timeless. | ||
| Dennis Registered user Username: Dennis Post Number: 1853 Registered: 4-2000 |
As I watched large dump trucks unloading dead bodies into mass graves in Haiti on CNN this afternoon, I felt so very, very grateful that I longer believe in the SDA theory of extinction/re-creation. If our soul and body are one solid unit as Seventh-day Adventists prefer to believe, then how can such dreadful scenes as in Haiti not be considered a separation from God's love and care? Our SDA friends even have the courage to tell us that their view of death is really the least traumatic and most encouraging of all views about death and the afterlife. Truly, Satan has an intense burden to distort the nature of man. Dennis Fischer | ||
| Asurprise Registered user Username: Asurprise Post Number: 1139 Registered: 7-2007 |
That is so horrible!  | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 10840 Registered: 12-2003  |
Dennis, I totally agree with you. I had similar thoughts, actually, as I pondered the fact of this devastating earthquake killing so many and stripping hundreds of others from the daily needs of life. When I realize that physical death is not the end of existence until an uncertain outcome at the resurrection, devastations like this don't seem quite as hopeless in the big picture. Moreover, when we realize that God Himself takes responsibility for His own people to meet Him and know Him, I can trust Him even with those who died. God is in charge of bringing those who will be saved to Himself, and He will do that in His time and way. We don't have to worry that their deaths mean they might have lost the chance to be saved. God will not lose even one of His own, no matter when or how they die. Earthquakes are no surprise to God. This quake didn't interrupt His saving of those Haitians. None who would ever respond to Him will be lost because He knows how to reveal Himself and bring them to faith and spiritual life before they die, even if the death is, from our perspective, untimely. There is no surprise or anything "untimely" from God's perspective. Colleen | ||
| Grace_alone Registered user Username: Grace_alone Post Number: 1629 Registered: 6-2006  |
Now how did this thread get knocked down to the bottom of the page? Tears came to my eyes yesterday as I saw a Haitian man find his wife alive inside her office under a mountain of rubble. She survived there a whole week. When rescuers were finally able to pull her out the first thing she did was praise God and then she sang (in French) a song about not fearing death. I praised God right along with her. I don't know if I've ever heard any of my SDA relatives express not fearing death. Leigh Anne | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 10852 Registered: 12-2003 |
So wonderful, Leigh Anne. Adventists almost always fear death. I've known of one who did not fear it; she, however, became born again late in life, and although she never officially left Adventism, she did stop going to church and stopped reading EGW. Her daughter is a former SDA who is a born-again Christian now, and they read the Bible together often. This elderly woman believed she would be with Jesus when she died, and she died well into her 90s with no fear. Very unusual...but then, this lady was not actually an authentic Adventist anymore! Knowing Jesus changes everything. We pass from death to life, and His Spirit testifies with our spirits that we are His children. Amazing! Colleen | ||
| Dennis Registered user Username: Dennis Post Number: 1860 Registered: 4-2000 |
A little girl from the local SDA elementary school rang our doorbell last week seeking funds for Haitian earthquake victims. Although I heartily applauded her efforts, I realize that once again Adventists find it necessary to contribute only to their cause. This way they get the full credit for their efforts. The major humanitarian services (i.e., UNICEF, Red Cross, etc.) are largely ignored by individual Seventh-day Adventist donors. Dennis Fischer | ||
| Dennis Registered user Username: Dennis Post Number: 1878 Registered: 4-2000 |
It should not surprise us that yet another SDA prophetess has arisen in Haiti. It has come to my attention today that Junon Brutus claims to have accurately predicted the January 12,2010 earthquake in her country on radio and television. I did not see or hear of any earthquake prediction in the world news for Haiti to suffer an earthquake. She says she was unharmed because she left the country the day before. Now she is calling for a three-day fast in Haiti. This reminds me of Ellen White's so-called prediction of the 1906 San Francisco earthquake. Lots of talking and bragging after the event. However, no precise prediction prior to the earthquake. We all know that Ellen White was all over-the-road theologically. Here is just a little sampling of three quotes that I can actually agree with:
A few months before her death in 1915, Ellen White declared:
The following quote from Ellen White is part of the SDA gospel of fear:
The following is the like the SDA quote of the twentieth century:
I wholeheartedly agree with the following statement by Dale Ratzlaff: "There are only two kinds of Adventists--the deceived and the dishonest." Dennis Fischer |
