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Philharris
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Posted on Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 9:01 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here is something that boggles my mind:

This quarter’s SDA quarterly lesson is centered on the Fruit’s of the Spirit and uses Gal. 5:22 as the theme text for most of the weekly lessons. While I have studied Galatians numerous times, I had been out of Adventism for so long when I ‘returned to Christ’; it has always been within context of evangelical biblical teaching. So, I decided to go back and study the whole book by comparing what the bible teaches as compared to SDA doctrines.


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For if the inheritance comes by the law, it no longer comes by promise; but God gave it to Abraham by a promise. Why then the law? It was added because of transgressions, until the offspring should come to whom the promise had been made, and it was put in place through angels by an intermediary. (Gal. 3:18-19 ESV)




Verse after verse jumps out at me. How can Adventist study this book and remain an Adventist? Would somebody play the “devil’s advocate” and show how they attempt to explain away what Paul so clearly teaches in Galatians?

For instance, since the law was "added" in, that means the Sabbath was something that was added in, it didn't exist prior to the giving of the law.

And, are we (rhetorical) “sons of the slave woman” or are we “sons of the free woman”?

Fearless Phil
Raven
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Posted on Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 9:53 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As I recall, SDA's say that verse is talking about the "ceremonial" law that was added in, basically all the shadow laws given to the Jews that are not in the 10 Commandments. They have to interpret to match their theology rather than taking it for what it plainly states.
Philharris
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Posted on Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 10:09 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Raven,

Well, keep in mind that I read all of Galatians, not just the one passage that I quoted to set the theme of this thread.

Fearless Phil
Asurprise
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Posted on Sunday, January 31, 2010 - 12:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Phil, Adventists aren't able to read a passage in context. I wasn't able to when I was an Adventist. Since Ellen White and the "church" said a certain thing, I "had" to go with what they said instead of the Bible.

Now, don't get me wrong. I REALLY THOUGHT that the Bible and Ellen White AGREED. Whenever the Bible said something different, I thought that it simply "seemed" to say something different, but that it really agreed. Sometimes, I'd have to take both Ellen White and the Bible metaphorically, such as in the case of Paul telling the believers that they HAD BEEN SAVED - (Eph. 2:8,9; 2nd Tim. 1:9 and Titus 3:5); while Ellen White said that NO ONE should say that they are saved.

Looking back I'm astonished at my blindness and so, ever so glad that God rescued me!!!!!!! :-)

Concerning that passage in Galatians 3, a little earlier in verse 17, the apostle Paul points out that the law didn't come until 430 years after Abraham. That would put it at Sinai! Notice Deuteronomy 5:2,3 where Moses prefaced his repeating of the Ten Commandments to Israel with: "...The Lord did not make this covenant with our fathers, but with us, those who are here today, all of us who are alive."

Also notice Deuteronomy 4:13, where Moses says exactly what that covenant is!
Loneviking
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Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 4:09 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Remember, SDA's approach the Bible is if it contains the words of God, but the actual words are not Gods'---thought inspiration is what they call it. So, they can play 'fast and loose' with any interpretation as the words aren't important, it's the thought that was attempting to be conveyed. And how do you know with any certainty what that thought might have been? See EGW! And around and around it goes.....
Colleentinker
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Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 6:15 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Exactly so, Loneviking. You described it well.

Colleen
Flyinglady
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Posted on Friday, February 05, 2010 - 12:13 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

AAAYYYYYYYY!!!!! That woman helped ruin my marriage with all her AWFUL advice. I was naive enough to try to follow it as an SDA. So glad I know different now.
I have apologized to my ex.
Diana L

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