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| Bskillet Registered user Username: Bskillet Post Number: 695 Registered: 8-2008 |
What are your thoughts on the Catholic Pedophilia scandal? I was reading Time's piece How Benedict Should Handle the Sex-Abuse Scandal. I came across this interesting quote: Basically, this guy is admitting that Catholicisim is a Pelagian faith that teaches works righteousness and denies the atonement of Calvary. Because if we must "clean ourselves" then that means we have not been made eternally clean by the blood of the Lamb. Whats strange to me is to see how vociferously Catholics try to claim that the celibacy requirements are NOT to blame. And yet the Bible says that one of the purposes of marriage is to give mankind a proper outlet for sexual desire (see 1 Cor 7). Further, now they must defend the fact that their own leader was one of the people guilty of covering up sex abuse. It is amazing to watch them defend this idiot (Ratzinger) like SDAs defend old Ellen. Because he is now Pope, and represents the second person of the Trinity to them, they are in a place where they cannot truly repent of the sins of their organization without also repenting of their corrupt ecclesiology, theology, and idolatry. Thus, they are defending the Pope rather than repenting of their sins. I think, in the end, a lot of this comes down to their teaching works righteousness, which does not require true repentance and does not permit the Holy Spirit to transform those who struggle with sexual temptation. (Message edited by bskillet on April 02, 2010) | ||
| Bskillet Registered user Username: Bskillet Post Number: 696 Registered: 8-2008 |
Here is a link to a video where Catholic apologist Bill Donohue defends the Catholic church on the grounds that, since the abused children were "post-pubescent" (i.e. 12-13 years of age), the actions of the Priests do not qualify as pedophilia. What a sicko. | ||
| Dennis Registered user Username: Dennis Post Number: 1937 Registered: 4-2000  |
Bskillet, I heartily agree with your assessment of the deep corruption of the RCC. While it is amazing that the media even mentions this scandal, it is equally amazing that the journalists don't connect the dots that cause this worldwide sexual scandal. They try to defend the Pope without addressing the celibacy issue, living in close quarters with same-gender and opposite-gender persons, telling each other that what they do sexually is OK being that they are married to the church, unique access to young children, ad infinitum. For the real story behind the scenes in Catholicism today, simply log unto Richard Bennett's website: www.bereanbeacon.org . Richard is a former Catholic priest. The readers of this thread owe it to themselves to explore Catholicism in depth. It will give you a new appreciation for the Protestant Reformation. Dennis Fischer | ||
| Bskillet Registered user Username: Bskillet Post Number: 698 Registered: 8-2008 |
The RCC is a lot like SDAism and Mormonism in that they aren't honest with outsiders about a lot of what they believe. For instance, it is undeniably true that they believe the Pope is Divine, the second person of the Trinity. John Paul II wrote this on page 3 of his book Crossing the Threshold of Hope. | ||
| Hec Registered user Username: Hec Post Number: 953 Registered: 3-2009 |
Brent, Isn't that statement about the Pope being the second person of the Trinity a question that someone asked John Paul II? Not a statement of the Pope himself? Hec | ||
| Bskillet Registered user Username: Bskillet Post Number: 699 Registered: 8-2008 |
It is part of a question yes, but it is a question posed by the author, speaking through the voice of a hypothetical questioner. In it, the questioner is reciting Catholic doctrine, and then questioning the Pope. In other words, it is an admission of the doctrine. Further, the questioner's question was not about the idea that the Pope "takes the place of" the second person of the Trinity, but whether the Pope himself has ever had doubts about his beliefs. Furthermore, it is not some other person who wrote the question, but rather the book itself is written by John Paul II (more likely, ghost-written by one of his aides). It would be like an un-believer asking a Christian, "In Christian teaching, Jesus Christ died, and rose from the grave on the third day. Have you ever had doubts about this?" You can read it here. (Message edited by bskillet on April 03, 2010) | ||
| Gcfrankie Registered user Username: Gcfrankie Post Number: 683 Registered: 1-2007 |
Here is a good book on the catholic religion you might be interested in. 'A Woman Rides the Beast', by Dave Hunt. It covers the beginning up to their role in the last days. I raised around catholics and thought I was pretty knowledgeable but boy did I learn I hardly knew anything. In fact I found parts of it scary. Gail |
