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Rossbondreturns
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Posted on Monday, June 13, 2011 - 7:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

...and on how it is revealing their true nature and causing them to further distance themselves from mainline Christianity.

Adventism and Islam Cuddle Up

You'll notice just how much more I had to cover just to clarify everything.

Ross
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Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2011 - 5:29 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Great Article!


I worry so much about my family. They are so proud of their Muslim outreach. As you can tell I'm the black sheep.
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Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2011 - 8:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good article, Ross!

Colleen
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Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2011 - 9:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you for writing this article! It is a warning to adventists to wake up!
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Posted on Tuesday, June 14, 2011 - 9:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for the article.
Diana L
Rossbondreturns
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Posted on Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - 10:32 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You're welcome guys, the topic was fat to important for me not to tackle eventually it just took me more time than I expected to get around to it.

Of course it all happened in God's perfect time so I suppose the article came out exactly when God purposed it to.

Ross
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Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2011 - 6:15 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

On reading the Adventist World magazine about Muslims and SDAs...the only real connection is that both don't like alcohollism and pork consumption, etc. That's it.

Muslims worship Allah, go to Mosque on Friday, have Ramadan, don't do much the same at all!

One gem is that in the article, they said that Muslims don't wear jewelry. They mentioned a SDA woman who decided not to wear her bold jewelry anymore because she wanted to better witness to muslims. That was so laughable.
Colleentinker
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Posted on Thursday, June 16, 2011 - 10:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Adventists do say that Allah is the same God they worship--it's just a different name. But the one true God is a Trinity. Monotheists who don't believe in a Trinity are not worshiping the same God Christians worship.

It is very possible, however, that Allah and the God of Adventism really are the same...Adventists' don't believe in the orthodox, classic Trinity. Their god is more of a "tritheism" in spite of the words they use to describe him.

Colleen

(Message edited by Colleentinker on June 16, 2011)
Jonvil
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Posted on Friday, June 17, 2011 - 6:38 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The similarities are kinda creepy!

Both have a 'prophet'
Both will NEVER publically question their prophet's Quran/Testimonies
Both started with a denial of the divinity of Jesus.
The liberal, moderate and fanatical in both camps pick and choose which writings they accept and ignore anything that contradicts while claiming it's all inspired.
All of them claim that their position is the one that truly represents their religion.
Both slavishly defend their religion against 'outsider' criticism regardless of what it's saying or doing.

Dissimilar?

A 'good' Muslim will kill all infidels
A 'good' Adventist will be killed by infidels

Present truth anyone?

"Among the verses in the Quran containing orders or laws there are verses that abrogate verses previously revealed and acted upon. These abrogating verse are called _nasikh_ and those whose validity they terminate are called _mansukh_.

The common notion of abrogation, that is, canceling of one law or code by another, is based on the idea that a new law is needed because of a mistake or shortcoming in the previous one. It is clearly inappropriate to ascribe a mistake in law-making to God, Who is perfect, and whose creation admit of no flaws.

However, in the Quran, the abrogating verses mark the end of the validity of the abrogated verses because their heed and effect was of a temporary or limited nature. In time the new law appears and announces the end of the validity of the earlier law. Considering that Quran was revealed over a period of twenty-three years in ever-changing circumstances, it is not difficult to imagine the necessity of such laws.
It is in this light that we should regard the wisdom of abrogation within the Quran:

"And when we put a revelation in place of (another) revelation and Allah knows best what He reveals -- they say: you are just inventing it. Most of them do not know. Say: The Holy Spirit (Gibril) has revealed it from your hand with truth and as a guidance and good news for those who have surrendered (to God)" [16:101-102]

It is a science on its own in Islam to know the Nasikh and Mansukh."

http://qa.sunnipath.com/issue_view.asp?HD=7&ID=2656

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