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Philharris
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Posted on Thursday, September 29, 2011 - 7:02 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This thread has been helpful for me. Through out the years since leaving Adventism and becoming an evangelical Christian I've often wondered where SDA concepts became embeaded within my being. Uncle Arthur books were what I read at an early age and had no idea how the concepts were seeping into my subconscience.

Fearless Phil
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Posted on Thursday, September 29, 2011 - 7:36 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'll admit still fondly remember sitting on my dad's lap as he read, "Clip, clop, clip, clop went little donkey's hooves." I have no idea what falsehood may have been in those books. I'd rather not read them again because I would not want to tarnish these memories of being with me dad.
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Posted on Thursday, September 29, 2011 - 9:19 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

With "friends" like this, children don't need enemies!
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Posted on Thursday, September 29, 2011 - 10:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My Pip-Pip story was on a record! I remember what a compelling, almost hypnotic voice Eric B. Hare had...

I recently re-read the Bedtime Story of the little boy who always took the biggest and best servings of food. I was horrified that in the story, instead of the boy's mom talking to him about it, she conspired with his aunt to invite them over for a special meal. All the nicest servings of food had been doctored to make them unpalatable to teach him a lesson! (Here's my favorite aunt, making me delicious food, but what's really inside is soap/bad tasting stuff or else the insides were empty). Maybe this was called "The Hollow Pie"...don't have the book right at hand, but the technique of food doctoring was used. I didn't think anything of it as a child. It seemed normal at the time, but can you imagine teaching a lesson to a child like that? It doesn't seem quite normal. Kind of like "The Two Carolyns", where the mother invited over the little girl's favorite teacher & hid her in the kitchen so she could hear Carolyn being rude to teach her a lesson by embarrassing her.
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Posted on Thursday, September 29, 2011 - 10:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You are SO right, Freeatlast!

And, Ross, boy I can hear that voice right now: "All right, motha, all right, motha".
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Posted on Friday, September 30, 2011 - 12:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nowisee, I remember those two stories vividly...They always horrified me with a sort-of macabre fascination. I always could SO see myself in both of those situations, but in my mind I would always try so hard to "be good" so I wouldn't fall into those kinds of "logical" consequences.

It's horrifying to realize that those stories seemed "good" and "normal", not abusive and cruel.

Colleen
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Posted on Friday, September 30, 2011 - 5:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hm, I can't remember if I ever heard/reaad the Pip Pip story. I grew up on Eric B. Hare. My dad was a huge fan..I think my dad's mother used to work for him or something...he grew up on the stories, and told them to my brother and I...almost word for word, actually, as I found out when I got cassettes of the stories. Silver and the snake, Chinese Lady and the Rats...

there was this theme running thru so many adventist children's stories that if you weren't good, bad things would happen. Like if you fell off your bike on Saturday, it was b/c you shoudln't have been riding it.
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Posted on Friday, September 30, 2011 - 6:48 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does anyone remember "Jolly and Folly"? It was a booklet and comic strip that was in "Our Little Friend" years ago.
Identical twin boys Jolly and Folly were little SDA kids. Jolly always did the right thing, and Folly always did the wrong thing. The comic strip always ended with the consequences of their actions.
The strip was ridiculous, because how could anyone always be good or always be bad?
Butterfly_poette
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Posted on Friday, September 30, 2011 - 6:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Pip-Pip the Naughty Chicken freaked me out. My family gave the book away, put it in our Dorcas bag. Why scare kids like that?

Uncle Arthur was something that made me feel bad about myself, like I could never be good enough.
Butterfly_poette
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Posted on Friday, September 30, 2011 - 7:11 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

www.smothergoose.com has a few takes on various Uncle Arthur stories.
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Posted on Friday, September 30, 2011 - 10:53 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, I remember Jolly and Folly! Behavior modification at it's finest.
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Posted on Saturday, October 01, 2011 - 1:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I remember Jolly & Folly too.
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Posted on Sunday, October 02, 2011 - 5:40 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I remember Eric B. Hare and Uncle Arthur's Bedtime stories. The other books came out after I was in grade school. Of that I am so thankful.
This reminds me of a camp meeting we were at. My Mom took my youngest brother into the bookstore and after showing him a number of books she asked him what he wanted. He named some popular song (something about the jungle) he had heard on the radio and right now the name escapes me. When she told the family about it we all laughed.
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Posted on Monday, October 03, 2011 - 11:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When did "Jolly" and "Folly" run? It sounds very much like a comic strip in the "Highlights" magazine called "Goofus and Gallant" ( I think)...which came first, J&F or G&G?
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Posted on Sunday, October 09, 2011 - 4:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Speaking of childhood memories, I will never forget going to camp meeting and seeing the playground equipment all chained up on Saturday. I hated the Christian faith until i learned the gospel and chains did not go hand in hand. Its Adventism and chains that belong together. Am I ever glad to be free of that stuff!!
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Posted on Sunday, October 09, 2011 - 6:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh my word, Jody!! Wow!! Didn't they consider that it would have been work to chain up the equipment on the sabbath? oh I forgot they probably did it 'just before' sundown Friday nite heehee
At the last church I went to the church board voted to install a basketball hoop. So they did. Then they didn't like the kids shooting hoops on the sabbath so they would hide the ball as soon as they got to church sabbath morning. I have no idea why they put that hoop in cuz the only time that we had kids at the church was on Saturday. I think they must have done it to be a tease heehee
lynn
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Posted on Friday, October 14, 2011 - 5:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jolly and Folly ran in the mid-1980s.

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