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| Javagirl Registered user Username: Javagirl Post Number: 742 Registered: 6-2005  |
We are getting ready to go to my mom's house for the first time since being married for 6 months. Ive told my husband a lot about SDA's. But this one has him baffled. He does not understand why we cant take leftover turkey to put in my moms fridge. Then somehow the issue of mustard came up! He is horrified that something as insignificant as mustard was such a big issue. To quote his disbelief, "Lori, do you realize how much CONTROL that was over your life" Really, you were not allowed mustard?? WHY, what, WHY??? what could there possibly be about mustard? Your kidding, right??? So much control!" | ||
| Mjcmcook Registered user Username: Mjcmcook Post Number: 280 Registered: 2-2011 |
~HI~Javagirl~ This is my little attempt to explain the Great Mustard Issue! egw had a teaching on not using vinegar~something about the way it is processed~However, I think that she had an addiction to using vinegar herself for most of her life~ More about this can be located on the web sites exposing her erroneous beliefs! So~NO mustard~probably because it contains~Vinegar ~mj~ | ||
| Nowisee Registered user Username: Nowisee Post Number: 1029 Registered: 5-2009 |
She taught against spicy foods, as they increased the "animal passions" (which weren't even that kosher between husband & wife!)...run THAT one by him!!! | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 13253 Registered: 12-2003  |
Exactly. It was all about the animal passions. Sigh. Tell him she counseled against wives exciting their husbands' animal passions... Colleen | ||
| Jeremy Registered user Username: Jeremy Post Number: 3850 Registered: 10-2004  |
Yes, MJ, I was taught that I couldn't eat mustard because it contained vinegar which supposedly contained alcohol. And yes, Ellen herself said she had an addiction to "vinegar" which "almost killed her" (so her "vinegar" must have had alcohol in it!). In fact, here's a memory that stands out from my childhood: One time when my sister and I were home alone for supper, she refused to cook Bush's baked beans because they contained mustard which contained vinegar which contained alcohol which was SIN! Ha! Jeremy (Message edited by Jeremy on December 27, 2011) | ||
| Jeremy Registered user Username: Jeremy Post Number: 3851 Registered: 10-2004 |
Here is what "The Prophet" said about mustard:
But she did say that it was good to BATHE in mustard!!! 
Jeremy (Message edited by Jeremy on December 27, 2011) | ||
| Randyg Registered user Username: Randyg Post Number: 1145 Registered: 12-2004  |
On reflection, it is hard to believe we all bought that nonsense for so long. We were conditioned NOT to think for ourselves. Good luck with it Lori. and Happy New Year! | ||
| Javagirl Registered user Username: Javagirl Post Number: 743 Registered: 6-2005 |
Thanks for the insight! I suspect if I tell him about the "animal passions' he will be dousing this newlyweds potato salad with mustard!  . Randy, Im with you, how did we NOT THINK for ourselves and CHALLENGE these ridiculous non-biblical claims! Its hard to see myself through the eyes of a never -been SDA, I feel so foolish when I see his reactions to certain things! Just so you know, my mom is sweet, and is buying lots of things my husband and his son like to eat.... however, The no turkey in the "SDA" fridge is even harder for him to understand. I tried to explain that the concern is that the smell of the meat might contaminate the air in the fridge. FOR SURE we cannot put it in the oven, where the juices will PERMEATE the stove and leak out into the house. (or so I was told) | ||
| Mjcmcook Registered user Username: Mjcmcook Post Number: 281 Registered: 2-2011 |
~Jeremy~ The "Vinegar" Issue!!! I read that in egw's time~ Vinegar had a much higher alcohol content than today's product in the U.S.~ She supposedly really liked it and wrote that she felt addicted to using it~ This could have contributed to some of her outrageous "counsel"~ she was "Intoxicated"! Thanks for the "quotes" regarding the "Mustard"issue! ~mj~ | ||
| Mjcmcook Registered user Username: Mjcmcook Post Number: 285 Registered: 2-2011 |
~Javagirl~ I will pray for you & your husband! Going to your Mom's house will be an unforgettable experience~for sure! As soon as you get there~check out the bathroom for SDA literature! My Mother use to have a stack of it in hers for everyone's reading needs when they were on the "throne"! It was on top of the clothes hamper~I would always put it in the bottom of the hamper, so I did not have to see it every time I went in there!! Just sharing a bit of advice~from one who has "been there"! ~mj~ | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 13256 Registered: 12-2003 |
Love it, Mjcook! Colleen | ||
| Cathy2 Registered user Username: Cathy2 Post Number: 418 Registered: 2-2006 |
heh. I had a scizoid SDA childhood.... We were not allowed mustard because of Ellen and vinegar, but we had every pickle known to man in the fridge. The EGW shopping cart...pick and choose. Cathy | ||
| Grace_alone Registered user Username: Grace_alone Post Number: 2024 Registered: 6-2006  |
I still feel bad about the time I nearly killed my SDA Mother-in-law. We were having a Super Bowl party and I brought beer bread. She had a couple of pieces and complimented me on the delicious bread. When she asked what it was, I told her. Thought she was going to have a heart attack right in front of me. It didn't matter to her that the alcohol burns off in the baking process ~ in her opinion I was forcing her to have beer! Lesson learned. Don't ask, don't tell. Leigh Anne | ||
| Cathy2 Registered user Username: Cathy2 Post Number: 421 Registered: 2-2006 |
Leigh Anne, This is terrible, but....LOL! I grew up with that ignorance. Cathy | ||
| Surfy Registered user Username: Surfy Post Number: 770 Registered: 11-2007 |
My dad would call pepper...whole wheat salt so we always had pepper in the house. Loma Linda Patio Pantry would serve brown mustard but not regular mustard. Surfy | ||
| Cortney Registered user Username: Cortney Post Number: 295 Registered: 8-2006 |
My husband's family never had a problem with vinegar, my MIL used plenty of it in her canned cucumbers, potato salad, and baked beans. I don't think they use black pepper at home, but I've seen them consume plenty of it in meals at restaurants and gatherings, esp. my Chili- the vegetarian version, and she wrote down black pepper when I listed off the ingredients to her But Not Meat, Never Meat!! That is just sooooo bad!! | ||
| Cathy2 Registered user Username: Cathy2 Post Number: 423 Registered: 2-2006 |
Oh, Surfy! ROTFLOL! "Whole wheat Salt"! In our home, pepper was the devil's spice all the way to Hell. Well, at least, my parents didn't make us give up milk, eggs, and cheese. And Ice-cream. Cathy | ||
| Indy4now Registered user Username: Indy4now Post Number: 1083 Registered: 2-2008  |
food threads all always the best! I've been chuckling all the way through! I just read James 3 this morning... "and the tongue... defiles the entire body..." We thought it was food... vivian | ||
| River Registered user Username: River Post Number: 7533 Registered: 9-2006  |
Lori, The mustard thing is a new one on me, I had never heard that one. So you married a never been? Just about the time he thinks he has it all down, something else will come along to blow his mind. Tell him to not adjust the vertical or the horizontal, there is nothing wrong with his television set, he has entered into 'THE TWILL LIGHT ZONE'. Heh! | ||
| Javagirl Registered user Username: Javagirl Post Number: 744 Registered: 6-2005 |
River, yep I married a never-been SDA, born again, Spirit-filled believer! Whoo Hooo, I'm always stretched! God is sooo much more than we knew as adventists. My husband and I laught that as SDA's I was sailing at half-mast...actually, Im wasnt even in the boat! He's about to encounter the friday night sundown countdown, lol! We just started cleaning, finishing shopping, and prepping the sabbath stove!! Oh boy. Gonna get the 3abn going! ( I do however, have some fond memories of sabbath afternoons). | ||
| Goose Registered user Username: Goose Post Number: 61 Registered: 11-2011  |
And no recollection at all about what was so clearly said by Jesus. "Its not what goes into a persons belly, but what comes out of the heart, that matters." My memories of Sabbath afternoons, Java, was loneliness. I lived on campus at Pacific Union College, and everyone vanished after church service. | ||
| River Registered user Username: River Post Number: 7542 Registered: 9-2006 |
Lori, I am so glad..you seem so happy and that blesses me. By the way I am going to finish my 24th story, then I am going to quit writing I think. I only like a couple pages to finish and its been sitting for six months. Thanks so much for inspiring me to write, in fact you are an inspiration to us all. River | ||
| Nowisee Registered user Username: Nowisee Post Number: 1032 Registered: 5-2009 |
I agree with you, Goose, profound loneliness kinda describes much of my time in adventism...I see now that I was lonely for a Savior. |
