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| Ric_b Registered user Username: Ric_b Post Number: 1674 Registered: 7-2004  |
Notice how much different this quote about the Gospel is, than the message of the Great Controversy.
in the Great Controversy God must save man to prove that man can keep the Law, thus proving God's Law is just. In the Great Controversy, God's actions defend God's character. In the Gospel, God gives His life selflessly. | ||
| Asurprise Registered user Username: Asurprise Post Number: 2463 Registered: 7-2007 |
What a difference! Also in the Great Controversy (if I'm not mistaken), God needs man to show everybody that He's just and good! Another thing the Great Controversy worldview pushes is the idea that before a person can be saved, he/she must push out their sins by Jesus' strength. That's why Ellen White said that no one can say or feel that they are saved - 'cause they can get tempted again! The gospel, on the other hand, teaches that a person is saved the moment they accept Jesus and that they receive the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit cleanses a person of sin, but not to save that person. The person has ALREADY been saved when they accepted Jesus! All the cults teach some variation of works. | ||
| Ric_b Registered user Username: Ric_b Post Number: 1675 Registered: 7-2004 |
You are right Asurprise. I was only focusing on the differences in how we view God in each framework. In the Great Controversy, God MUST allow human sin to run it's course and MUST find a way to make sinless people. In the Gospel, God chooses to allow human sin and chooses to die in our place that sinners might be reconciled to Him. The god of the Great Controversy is a self-serving god who uses man. The God of the Gospel is a God who loves man, and sacrifices Himself for man. Self-serving or self-sacrificing, what kind of God do you find in Scripture? Which kind of God produces adoration and praise? These are two opposite teachings on God's nature, they describe totally different gods. I fail to see how anyone can call the Great Controversy view of God "beautiful"! | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 13498 Registered: 12-2003  |
Rick, I totally agree. Very good observations...and you said it well: "I fail to see how anyone can call the Great Controversy view of God 'beautiful'"! Colleen | ||
| River Registered user Username: River Post Number: 7801 Registered: 9-2006  |
As I was looking for some material on one of my hard drives, actually a teaching on the Holy Spirit Doc have given me some time ago, I ran across this interesting statement he made on bible interpretation. A. In order to interpret the Bible, certain hermeneutical principles need to be applied, for instance, “Always interpret a particular passage of Scripture in the light of the systematic teaching on the subject. All verses which treat the subject must be considered, not just one,” and “interpret difficult verses on the basis of clear passages. A favourite trick of cults is to select a difficult passage and then construct their unique teachings on it.” 2 In the above case, these rules are broken, as a figurative passage is selected, interpreted in an arbitrary manner, and clear Biblical teaching is thus denied. (end quote) I don't know what to say about the statements in the great controversy, it is hard put for me to put it off to even faulty bible interpretation. It seems to be made up of wild assumptions of a person not having been born of the Spirit, or in the very least a person who is not in the least mentally qualified to interpret even the simplest to understand scripture in the bible. In short it leaves me speechless. River | ||
| Asurprise Registered user Username: Asurprise Post Number: 2470 Registered: 7-2007 |
River, according to SDAs, nothing in the Great Controversy has to go according to the Bible, because it's "new revelation from God!" SDAs don't know that the Great Controversy contradicts the Bible, or [if they were honest] they wouldn't believe it! | ||
| Benevento Registered user Username: Benevento Post Number: 325 Registered: 4-2005 |
Today my kids drove by the SDA church in Mount Vernon WA and there were people picketing the church--with signs about the greatcontroveryexposed.com. We live in the country and I no longer have a car, but I would love to know who the people are. I am pretty isolated from any former SDA's. I know of one other person but I have never been able to meet him. Are there actually others in this area--I'd love to meet some!! Peggy | ||
| Philharris Registered user Username: Philharris Post Number: 2684 Registered: 5-2007  |
Benevento, You have met me. And, south of you in Lynnwood there is another former. There is also another former who posts here but not sure of that person's exact whereabouts. As to who is doing the protesting, I wouldn't know as I am a little to far away and I also am rather isolated from active SDAs. Phil | ||
| Benevento Registered user Username: Benevento Post Number: 326 Registered: 4-2005 |
It just made me curious because they had the sign out with the website and I wondered who they could be. They obviously know about Proclaimation! I am not sure how many there were. I was wondering how people could be that organized in this area and I didn't hear of them. I wouldn't have thought that you would come this far to protest. Not sure that is effective, but you never know. I don't really need to know any formers, but I found this interestig Peggy |
