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Sabra (Sabra)
Posted on Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 7:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's great Lucias! I will remember them in prayer. I've been at the same job for 5 years and my boss, a dentist, always doubted God. He would say things like "How do you know the Muslims don't have it right or the Buddist? Maybe we're the ones who are wrong. I started praying for him about 3 months ago and you would not believe-he came in to work this last Monday telling me how Luke was the most historical book in the Bible, that everything is documented, that anyone would be stupid not to believe. He's a big book reader and is reading a book on Luke. He's gone to church since he was a kid but never really believed, goes every Sunday with the family. He's been saying all week that he is leaving the practice in the Lord's hands (we've been doing pretty poorly) this week has been AWESOME!! We are even most likely going to make bonus after not making it in over a year! He even said he would up it to 300.00 from 100.00! I asked him where all this came from and he said he didn't know, he went with his wife to a spiritual marriage conference and it changed his whole view.
Praise the Lord for using all of us for His work!!! :)
Sabra
Oh, and the last one in the office not interested in church or God has gone to church the last two Sundays!! WOW!!
Colleentinker (Colleentinker)
Posted on Friday, March 29, 2002 - 8:43 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sabra, your story above makes me feel like crying! I'm sitting here thinking how difficult your own situation has been, and now you're showing us how God has you in a work situation where you can support and confirm His work in the lives of colleagues who are struggling to know truth! God is so faithful to bless us with Himself--his own presence and strength and hopeóeven when we feel as if our lives are unresolved.

And Lucias, I' will pray for your co-workers as well. Praise God for putting you in their lives!

Colleen
Sabra (Sabra)
Posted on Friday, March 29, 2002 - 1:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Colleen,

I have some weird super-natural strength and peace I've never had before. I know God has His hand on my life and I'm trusting Him to work it out. I could never have had this attitude before. I was always feeling sorry for myself, wondering why I was here, feeling no purpose in life...blah blah blah. It puts a new perspective on things when you KNOW what your purpose is and you're fulfilling it. My personal problems seem so secondary to the big picture. Sounds kinda corny, I know.
Well, better go clean the house, still not finding much joy in that! ha! but thankful that I have a house to clean :)
Happy Good Friday to you all!
Sabra
Sherry2 (Sherry2)
Posted on Wednesday, May 01, 2002 - 4:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Two prayer requests: My father had heart trouble yesterday building their home. He was in the hospital yesterday, and was going back for more tests today. Classic symptoms of angia.

2. An SDA pastor friend has e-mailed me in regards to my beliefs and what has been going on. I shared with him my story, resignation letter, and thoughts of present. Pray that God will lead His heart as He wills.

Thank-you

Oh, we will be meeting some time this month to pray over the FAF in Kalamazoo. Thanks to Colleen for help, and Dale Raztclaff (I know I spelled it wrong) has offered us free materials once we get started. Praise God for that. Pray for our protection, and faithfulness to Christ. So make that 3 requests. :)
Sabra (Sabra)
Posted on Wednesday, May 01, 2002 - 8:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I will definately remember your requests.
Let us know how your dad does and what kind of response you get from your letter and how your FAF start goes!

Thank you all for praying for my husband. He got a good job in Chattanooga, about 3 hours from here so he is only here on the weekends, that keeps the stress down and he is going to church, hallelujia. Also, last night when he called he said he was reading the Bible. WOW! Also told me how he was blessed by giving an old man a coke and was telling his employees that if you bless someone God will bless you 10 times more (I know his biblical knowledge is a little, well, not biblical but it's a start.) They turned around and sold a very large sale at the next house, in fact, everything on the truck at just one house! He is managing an office in food sales and has 30 employees, he was training that day. Little by little, I believe God's promise is true that "He who has started a good work in you will perfect it until the day of redemption" Don't stop praying!!! I believe there are some pretty stubborn spirits there to rebuke, but I know God is much stronger.
Thank you all!
Sabra
Sherry2 (Sherry2)
Posted on Friday, May 03, 2002 - 2:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you. And praise the Lord for your hubby, Sabra.

Update: My dad is doing better and taking it easy. They cannot find anything wrong and believe it is stress related. Their building a house right now, and he is abit afraid of heights, and the day they had to put the roof up is the day he had such heart pain, and dizziness, etc.

May 15th at the Calvary Chapel of Kalamazoo we will be praying for the FAF group. All people from their church are being informed and invited to pray with us. Kathy & Debbie are two e-mail friends I wrote a long time ago who attend there and have been praying - same as I - for 2 years now for something to open up in this area. We are praying for male leadership, someone either familiar with SDAism or lived it, and strong understanding of Scripture. And protection. I think ever since I started moving forward on this I've had more emotional attacks with thoughts of guilt, the need to return, and crap like that, then I've dealt with in a long time (well a year about). Anyways Kathy and Debbie are on fire and got great support of their church. And Joshua, I've e-mailed you. Have you gotten my messages?

No response yet from my pastor friend. He has a heart for God and probably is pouring over in prayer how best to respond. I remember those days of surety in what I believed, and in earnest before God for other people's sakes. Yet God had other things in mind. So I'm praying only that God's will be done in this. He knows where He needs that pastor best right now.

Thanks a million.
Colleentinker (Colleentinker)
Posted on Monday, May 06, 2002 - 4:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sabra, thanks for the update re: your husband. God is so good. I'll continue to pray for him and for you. Sherry, you and Kathy and Debbie have our prayers as well. I understand about the emotional attacks! He who is for us is stronger than he who is against us!

In Jesus,
Colleen
Jmorris_4 (Jmorris_4)
Posted on Monday, May 13, 2002 - 3:50 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi everyone, I am new here and wanted to introduce myself and ask a prayer request. This web site was recommended to me by a friend a VERY long time ago, and now am finally getting here. I am a former adventist, was born and raised in the religion. Hated every minute of it. As soon as I was old enough, I went "out in the world" and lived. Was married and after the birth of my son, realized I didn't want to raise him that way and started seeking again. I knew I didn't want to return to SDAism, only for the fact of the "rules and regulations" of the religion. My son was born with apnea and had stopped breathing 3 times. A friend came to the hospital (one with whom I partied with often) and said she was now a christian and wanted to pray for my son. She did and he is well, lol, very well.
Little did I know then that what she was inviting me too was just another cult. It was the Word-Faith movement. We served in that for 7 years.
I read last week on the trial of Isreal Dammon and a lot more on EGW. That scared the pants off me! I knew I didnt agree with her, but thats just plain sick!
Then I went and read on the Word-Faith movement and what I saw there scared me very badly. I wonder just what my fondation is. Is there one? I love God, and want to follow Him, but do I really know Him?
I am now attending a Pentecostal church and really feel that god has called me there. The pastor is wonderful. I am not sure I agree with everything taught there, I am still feeling it out, so to speak.
I need to see Jesus for who He is and know it. I need prayer for my eyes to be open.
And also, I just spoke with my pastor yesterday about my marriage, it is failing, and do not know what to do, he is going to counsil me. Was supposed to be today, but now my husband had to take my car because his truck (which he just got back from the shop yesterday) would not start again. I feel so trapped and angry. If it wasnt for my husband ruining our credit, we could easily afford a descent vehicle for him to drive.
I feel like my whole world is crashing and don't know what to do.
jmorris
Sherry2 (Sherry2)
Posted on Monday, May 13, 2002 - 4:27 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Jmorris, and welcome to the site. Glad you could make it. Just a couple days ago, I got out "White Lie" and was thumbing through it and reading it. This book was written by a former Adventist pastor who was a strong advocate of EGW, and stumbled onto her plagerism. He was shocked and began to search out the truth of her plagerism. He lays side by side books written before her and then her writing so you can see for your own eyes how she carried over thoughts, ideas, and exact sentencing in a lot of instances, that was a huge shock for me. But what surprised me as I relooked this book is remembering the sheer agony and pain and grief I went through when I first discovered these things. I cried for days. I really did. I was totally devastated. I wanted to puke, I wanted to go down to the Conference and ream out every SDA I knew. I wanted (and still do) the truth revealed to every SDA out there. I have forgotten a lot of that pain, Jmorris. It was a reminder of how much it hurt when I relooked at this book this week. I left it out so my SDA babysitter might take a look while we were out (tsk, tsk...but be wise as serpants, harmless as doves the Bible says so this was my idea of how to be). I think that it is no coincidence I felt the need to get that book out. It's helped me be sympathetic again to the plight of the person leaving a cultic church, and helping me have that rememberance before the FAF group here gets started.

This I know, salvation is still based upon the blood of Jesus, not theology. The early church had lots of false doctrine that snuck in. Did that make them unsaved. No. Jesus blood has covered all our sins from the first of our life and to the future of our life. We may be mislead, we may end up places we shouldn't be. But the firm foundation of Jesus is still there. We just need to tear down the shotty construction we've put on top of it, and replace it with the strong walls of truth. And we tear it down with Jesus' help. I think what you're learning is what I learned a while ago...to use the words of a song "my hope is built on nothing less than Jesus blood and righteousness." I've learned that Jesus is the only secure footing. And He is my teacher in things too as I seek to understand His word by the power of the Holy Spirit.

Blessings to you. Thanks for joining.

Your friend,
Sherry Reinbold
Sabra (Sabra)
Posted on Monday, May 13, 2002 - 4:27 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Welcome jmorris!

So glad you're here! God can certainly deal with a broken spirit and an open mind. When I finally had the presence of mind to start asking Him what He thought everything started falling into place. I still have plenty of problems but I have a peace about them that everything is going to work out to glorify God since I decided to hand it all over to Him and let Him in His wisdom work it out. James 1:5-8 has been a wonderful help to me. Just claim it and trust that He will guide you in the direction you need to go. I have a tremendous love for the Pentecostal people, I found them to be very sincere and a big help to me when I was searching though I didn't agree with everything they taught. God will lead you in the way that you should go. We will keep you in prayer.

Sabra
Colleentinker (Colleentinker)
Posted on Monday, May 13, 2002 - 4:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Welcome, jmorris! Your frustration and anger make sense to me! I agree with Sherry and Sabra above: ask God to show you the truth, and he will. Be willing to be open to him, and begin reading the Bible for yourself, asking him to reveal himself and the truth to you as you read. I am absolutely convinced that the Bible is the source of all knowlege of truth, and that Jesus and his sacrifice are the center of our relationship with God.

Be in prayer that God will give you wisdom and discernment, reveal truth to you, and lead you where he wants you to go. We will keep you in prayer. Praise God for his faithfulness in helping you to see what you needed to see about EGW! He will continue to show you reality.

Colleen
Jmorris_4 (Jmorris_4)
Posted on Tuesday, May 14, 2002 - 5:25 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you all for your prayers and support. I can see this is going to be a big support to me. And Sherry, I wish you would have hit me over the head and kicked me in the butt to get me on this sight sooner! lol! I know, it is also God's timing, and also His timing in my healing.
It feels good not to feel alone anymore. My pastor and his wife are coming here to my home to talk with me on Thursday. Please keep this in prayer, and I also go for lasik surgery this Friday, if you would lift this up in prayer also I would be greatful.
Thanx again,
Jill Morris
Lydell (Lydell)
Posted on Tuesday, May 14, 2002 - 5:55 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Jill, so glad you are with us and the Lord has led you to freedom. We try to make this a place where even tho we don't see eye to eye on everything, we still try to be loving and accepting. It's a pretty good place to vent, too. Hope you will stick around. Hope you'll post often. Praying for your situation and for your surgery Friday. Let us know how it goes.

Well Sherry, I liked your idea of having the book "just laying around". It's your home. That book is a part of your life now. You left the book out in the open. It is up to the individual to listen to the Holy Spirit's promptings to pick it up and flip through it. And if he/she did, you just might have planted a seed to prod them into some thinking. Hey, where else is this person likely to see that book? And if the next time she comes you just "happen" to have a carefully chosen scripture verse or two written on just a couple of scraps of paper posted around your house (like, um, say right in front of the toilet where they have to be seen at some point, to "help you learn" the verse, and they happen to see them.....well, there ya go.
dell
Lydell (Lydell)
Posted on Tuesday, May 14, 2002 - 6:04 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, if any of you happen to check the site this morning, I hope you'll be in prayer for me. I teach a ladies' Bible study this morning. The subject is the resurrection. I intend to take it a bit off the author's subject into the state of the dead to help get the new believers grounded.

Actually, the authors next lesson mentions William Miller! ew The pastor's wife and I have decided not to go into that lesson or the next that mainly address endtime events. We want to keep away from the fuzzy areas of the scriptures and stick to the main and plain stuff of the scriptures.

But I've decided that if anyone today gets off into endtime prophecy speculations, I will 1. point them to the charts in my Bible that briefly map out like 7 or 8 endtime views, and warn them against getting their heart set on one scenario, and 2. warning them against the creeping problem of letting their pet scenario begin to control their conception of the rest of scripture (i.e. SDAism.

Anyway, prayers are welcome because there is a distinct possability that I can offend a couple of folks today, unintentionally but necessarily. Please pray that my hearing of the Spirit today is clear, and boldness in following those promptings.
Jmorris_4 (Jmorris_4)
Posted on Tuesday, May 14, 2002 - 2:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Another quick prayer request! I am going to be with my father (who is 100% Adventist to the core) all day tomorrow. He is taking me to the first appointment toward my eye surgery on Friday.
He has given up on the talking to me to come back to SDAism, but still has his subtle comments and looks of dissapointment, and when we listen to Family Life Radio, he has to point out that they are wrong and wants to make sure I still believe that way and usually ends up in a discussion somehow.
I'm sure you guys are saying "awesome opportunity". Well, my dad is also 100% pure Chech, which means VERY stubborn.
If God will open a door, I pray that I will see it and grasp it gently, but in the same way, I am very nervous, because my dad has never (or at least this is the way I feel) accepted my views on life, or has he ever been "proud" of me for anything.
I can't tell you how good it feels inside to know there are people actually praying for me and lifting me up before God for protection and my best interest!
God bless.
Jill
Sherry2 (Sherry2)
Posted on Wednesday, May 15, 2002 - 12:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Phew! The toughness of what to do with a parent's rejection despite being in Christ. All I can say is there is a verse in Psalms that says something to the effect that when a father or mother desert their child, the Heavenly Father takes them in. There is only One in life that I've found can bring a soul satisfaction of being loved and cherished unconditionally. All others will fall short, even our closest friends (ie. I will fall short) but Jesus never ever does.
Sherry2 (Sherry2)
Posted on Wednesday, May 15, 2002 - 12:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tonight is the night we are meeting for prayer in Kalamazoo for the FAF group. Prayers appreciated! Thanks.
Sabra (Sabra)
Posted on Wednesday, May 15, 2002 - 4:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jill,

Blessings in dealing with your dad. It is a very difficult situation, I'm right there with you with my mom. Remember that your confidence is in Jesus, that confidence astonishes my mom. Not to be confused with arrogance of course. My assurance of my relationship with Jesus is all I need in dealing with those who think I'm confused. I know that I have salvation in Him and that is all that matters. A few months back an SDA preacher came to visit me and I was all worried about his visit, so I got my Bible out and prayed, "God, show me what I should know to share with him." I turned right to the verse, "the spirit of the Lord has annointed me to preach the gospel to the poor...." I said, wow, thanks for the annointing! That night at the little Pentecostal church the preacher got up and said, first thing, I have something planned for tonight, but first, the Lord put it on my heart to share something with you all. He opened his Bible and read, "the spirit of the Lord has annointed me to preach the gospel to the poor......." WOW!! Talk about confirmation on the testimony of two or three witnesses! The following Wed when the SDA preacher came, the meeting went very well, I spoke my heart, he spoke his and he said he wanted to study a few things and meet back with me in a couple of weeks. Never heard from him again, maybe he's still studying. :)

Sherry, blessings on the meeting, let us know how it goes! So exciting!!

Love and prayers to all,
Sabra


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Jmorris_4 (Jmorris_4)
Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 5:23 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank you Sabra for that encouragement. I guess I still don't much faith in myself. I have to learn to look at the scriptures differently. I was so used to seeing a scripture and think I could speak it to my advantage, instead of applying it to my life as a leading. I have so much to learn, I am hungry for the truth. i almost wonder if this isn't a test of trust. To learn to trust God. Probably, since I don't trust to many people. Learned the hard way on that one.
I am just taking it one day at a time. To find the AA saying, that keeps coming to mind, but do not know it.
Love and blessings.
Jill


PS. And Sherry, thank you so much for your friendship and believing in me. I don't tell you enough! And thank you so much for the encouraging cards that you send me, you don't know how much that blesses me! I keep them all and look at them from time to time. I wish I could be as thoughtful. I just have to wade through this (well, lets just say I have my knee high boots on, my barn boots... ) in my life, and I will find that cheerful, full of life person I used to be.
I told Kelly that I wanted to go to the womens thing and that I was going to save up the money, he didn't say anything, so I am praying that it will work out!
Love you much! Jill
Colleentinker (Colleentinker)
Posted on Thursday, May 16, 2002 - 6:45 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sherry, how did the meeting go? I was praying for you and the meeeting yesterday.

Jill, I think you're right about this new hunger for truth being a test of trust. God really does reveal truth to us when we desire itóone piece at a time! I've been in awe at how he doesn't drown us in new understanding; he gives us exactly the insight we need at a given moment, and the next understanding builds on the last at exactly the moment we need it, etc. He definitely teaches us through his word. Another big change in my perception is the authority and trust I place in the Bible compared to what I had in the past. It is a living book!

Praising Jesus for Himself,

Colleen

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