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| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 1973 Registered: 3-2004  |
He does not know, yet, when he will have surgery. Diana | ||
| Belvalew Registered user Username: Belvalew Post Number: 723 Registered: 7-2004 |
I'll make this quick because I have to run. I need your prayer support because I have been invited to a discussion of Hebrews by a member of a group of "questioning" Adventists. Pray that I can pull to mind all that I have studied in that venerable book and that God will prevent me from acquiring foot in mouth disease. Belva p.s.--I'll report back how I think things went! | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 1978 Registered: 3-2004 |
Belva, A prayer for you. Father in heaven, Give Belva the words to say and the insight needed as she talks with these Adventists that are "questioning". Send the Holy Spirit to be with her and the group. Teach them the truth. God you are awesome in all you do and say. Diana | ||
| Belvalew Registered user Username: Belvalew Post Number: 724 Registered: 7-2004 |
Dear Diana, Thank you, so, for your prayer. It was an interesting experience. We onloy got through the first chapter of Hebrews and one of the people there has already been able to prove pantheism, in accordance with his interpretation. I'm weary now, but when I'm able to sort it out again, I'll post what he had to say, at least as I heard it. Otherwise, the individuals in this class are attending this particular Sabbath School Class, and only that, on each Sabbath. My friend told me that it would be difficult to find a single person in the class that would refer to themselves as Adventists any longer, but since they "were" Adventist they continue to go there every Sabbath morning, partially out of habit, and partially because they are accustomed to the culture. I'm praying they can continue to grow, and one day be able to step out on their own. Belva | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 2875 Registered: 12-2003  |
Oh, my, Belva--are you going back? You certainly do need to be supported by prayer! Do you find this class to be seriously open to the Bible or intellectually pursuing ideas and theology? With prayers for you, Colleen | ||
| Belvalew Registered user Username: Belvalew Post Number: 725 Registered: 7-2004 |
Trust me, Colleen, I didn't feel like they were searching for a closer walk with Jesus. This was a group of people who were trying to be scholarly and open minded. There may be a couple of true believers in the class, but that is all. When they asked me about my prior experience with studying Hebrews I mentioned that the approach my study group had used had been a bit more spiritually driven. I've never been one for mincing words. It is rather sad to watch this, though. They know that what they grew up believing has failed them, this much they willingly admitted to me. They are trying to hold as much of their past together by the tattered threads as they can while at the same time trying to appear to be fully open-minded. They read directly from Greek and Latin, then spout some gibberish about how the disciples hadn't really known that Jesus was the Son of God Most High, or that he was Creator God -- Paul had to come in and "theorize" that part of it. I could go on for pages, but I just decided that I won't. I will leave them to their Greek and Latin, and their reading that the God-head is a heirarchy, Number One Father God, Number Two God-the-Son, and Number Three Holy Spirit. I prefer to stick with what an Irish priest once used to describe the God-head. He held in his hand a clover leaf with it's three lobes, each equal to the other, and the three together comprizing one leaf. That one leaf is Yahweh, the One and only God. By the way, I'm not saying God is a leaf, I'm just admiring the little priest's metaphor. Belva | ||
| Susan_2 Registered user Username: Susan_2 Post Number: 2062 Registered: 11-2002 |
Please, I wuld appriciate you all lifting two of my sons up in prayer. They are still homeless living in their car. They are getting discouraged with the situtation. They each have semi-good jobs but so far have been unable to save enough to get into a place of their own. They had been hoping to have enough money saved by now to at least be able to get a studio apartment. And, the spot where they had been parking to sleep for the night the officer told them they cannot sleep there anymore. A little later today I will make some phone calls and ask different agencies where they can at least park. The one son has some serious health problems and I would really appriciate your prayers for God's intervention in dealing with his physical problems. I know he is trying hard to take care of himself and stay healthy. It's hard because with the problems he has he can get so extremely tired and rundown so easy. And, pray that the Lord can help me figure out how I can help those two, I love them so much. And, Richard, how are you doing? And, Anne? I hope so much she gets the help she needs. My son hasn't used drugs at all for several years. Most of his health problems are the longterm concenquences of when he did. Please, urge Anne to understand that her behaviour now can cause her and those who love her much sorrow even years down the road of her life. Thank-you all very much. | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 2884 Registered: 12-2003 |
Praying for God's direction for you and your sons, Susan. Colleen | ||
| Seekr777 Registered user Username: Seekr777 Post Number: 353 Registered: 1-2003  |
Susan_2, Annie is having a difficult time right now. I don't know if I told online how we had to tell her she had to leave the house because of her actions. I told her I was willing to pay for a sober living placement for two months and then we would need to talk over continuing arrangements. She realizes she has broken our trust with her drug use and her stealing. She was at the sober living placement for less then a week and tested positive and had to leave. One of the hardest things I had to say was, "Annie you can still not live here until you are serious about your drug problem and will work on it." She is living about 3 miles away with a lady and the ladys 2 kids. The lady has been very supportive since she has lived through the problem of addiction herself and is now clean and sober. Last Thursday I took Annie to dinner and we had a good time talking. She is literally dealing with life one day if not one hour at a time. She has resisted my praying with her the past several years, (I just pray silently anyway  ) After we had dinner and I had taken her back to where she is staying I asked her if I could pray with her and she said "Go for it", she didn't say it disrespectfully but with a tone of I'll take all the help I can get. I put my hand on her shoulder and prayed that God would give her comfort and strength to deal with the hurt, pain and torments whe was going through. I asked God to open her heart and allow His Spirit to heal the hurt and pain. The next night we got word she was about 10 miles away sleeping on the steps of the Drug Rehab Residence. She had walked there to see a friend. It was cold and someone brought her out a blanket. She is now back with her friend and we are making sure she has what she needs but she can not sleep at our home until she decides to deal with her addiction. As one wise person told us, "You need to do everything you can to support the breaking of her addiction and nothing to enable it." We are willing to make sure she has the basics but this does not include the use of the car we got her to use for work. (She is now either walking or getting rides or using the bus. We just got her a bus pass for use to and from work. It does beat walking all the way.) Susan thanks for asking about her. Many of her friends are praying for her. Both in my church where my membership is and in other churches where I worship and minister to others. I feel so helpless and yet I know I worship an all powerful and all knowing God. She is in His hands and I am confident that He able to deliver her from her "demons". I didn't expect to say this much and sorry if it is disjointed in some parts. All of this has been taking much of my time and energy yet I'm at peace and simply turning it over to God. In Christ, Richard rtruitt@mac.com | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 1982 Registered: 3-2004 |
Richard, You and Annie and your family are in my daily prayers. I know how hard it is to break an addiction. I have many friends in various 12 step programs, as well as being in one myself. I ask God to give you the strength, patience and love to get through one day at a time. That is all we have to deal with right now and that is one day at a time. God is holding you and your daughter in His arms right now. Diana | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 2887 Registered: 12-2003 |
Praying for you and Annie, richard. Colleen | ||
| Lisa_boyldavis Registered user Username: Lisa_boyldavis Post Number: 96 Registered: 3-2005 |
Ok, if you would all pray for my husbandís cousin. He was raised SDA - EGW thumping psycho SDA, left God, went wild, cleaned up his act, got married and somehow found God outside of Adventism after studying his way out of the church. He is an amazing guy, has memorized huge portions of the Bible, God has healed him of a terrible addiction, and now he's sliding off the deep end. He has gotten involved in the Pentecostal movement that does not believe in the Trinity, that you must be baptized into Jesus Christ or you miss out on the power in your life... he's distrusting pretty much all denominations, he's preaching to prison inmates on the side and has hours in his truck to think think think... He is in desperate need of a mentor to help him grow in Christ, however people are intimidated by him because he's such a genius, and will always end up "right" whether he is or not. He's really still a baby Christian but shows no outward signs of that. He wants huge changes in his family and his wife loves the Lord and is moving along with the desired changes, but at a much slower pace. He's taken to the text that says when people accept Christ, they will be divided from their mothers and fathers, from their wives and husbands, from their children... etc... and he seems very proud of the fact that he's pitting preaching schedules at the Pen between he and his wife as proof that he's totally Gods. Their marriage is teetering as is his witness to the rest of the family who are still SDA and terribly dead in their sins. They will be thrilled to see his family fall apart as proof that they have the truth and not this brave soul who choose to leave the church for truth. Now he's grasp non-truth, but tends to be black or white in a 100 other ways in his life. PLEASE PRAY GOD WILL RESCUE HIM FROM HIMSELF. Lisa | ||
| Helovesme2 Registered user Username: Helovesme2 Post Number: 334 Registered: 8-2004  |
Oh Lisa! Praying! Mary | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 1987 Registered: 3-2004 |
God, Be with the cousin of Lisa's husband. Bring someone into his life that will mentor him. Send the Holy Spirit to teach him. The SDAs in his life would like to see him slide off the deep end, but God, you are more powerful than they are. Do what is best for him and that will bring honor and glory to You. You are awesome. Diana | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 2893 Registered: 12-2003 |
Dear Father, Please be with Lisa's cousin-in-law. You know what he needs, and only You can touch his heart and awaken Him to Your reality. Please convict him of his need to surrender, to humble himself before You, and to love his wife as You love the church. Please work out Your will in his life, and cause him to plant roots deeply into You and Your word. Thank you for being sovereign over this situation and for what You are doing in this man and his family. We love You, Jesus! Thank you. Colleen | ||
| Lisa_boyldavis Registered user Username: Lisa_boyldavis Post Number: 98 Registered: 3-2005 |
Another prayer request... I have a friend who was brought into the church via a marriage many years ago (I was probably 8). She was usurer into a very "put together" happy face SDA family where she was taught how to measure up. She learned to cook right, watch the clock on Fri, etc... She ended up getting sucked into the deadly conservative group; she found that the bar was moved higher and higher and higher. She started asking questions about freedom in Christ. She suddenly became suspect and distanced. She just lost it and left her marriage, kids and all she knew to a terribly destructive relational life. There has been such destruction due to the law of sin and death in her case. I started praying for her and just called her out of the blue. Sheís still amazingly protective of the Sabbath and EGW but doesn't talk to God or attend any church. When I shared our testimony of how God rescued us and opened our eyes and healed our lives and our marriage and family she really listened. She said she would search it out. Please pray that God will also rescue her from herself. I have loved this friend and looked up to her for so many years. I would love it so much if Jesus would free her and even heal her family if at all possible. Who knows, maybe her family could find freedom too. Thank you so much for the prayers for our cousin as well. I can't wait to see what the Lord does for that family. Lisa | ||
| Riverfonz Registered user Username: Riverfonz Post Number: 992 Registered: 3-2005 |
Father, we continue to pray for Lisa's cousin who has left SDA, but has been seduced into another cult. We pray that you will open his spiritual eyes, and lead him to the true gospel. We also pray for her friend that has been hurt so bad by SDA fundamentalism, that her eyes are blinded to the truth. Lord, please open her spiritual eyes and be with Lisa as she ministers to her, in Jesus' name, Amen. Stan | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 1990 Registered: 3-2004 |
Father in Heaven, You are the I AM and the EVERLASTING GOD. I thank you for all the good things that happen to each of us and the things that are not so good so that we can turn more to you. I come to you to ask you to be with Lisa's friend. She is disappointed in SDAism and has turned away from you. Come close to her now and let her know that all she needs is you and let her know the freedom she can have in you. Be with her family, husband and be with the children, especially. Thank you God for anwering our prayers. As always, God, you are awesome. Diana | ||
| Colleentinker Registered user Username: Colleentinker Post Number: 2904 Registered: 12-2003 |
Praying, Lisa. Colleen | ||
| Flyinglady Registered user Username: Flyinglady Post Number: 2009 Registered: 3-2004 |
I know I have mentioned 2 sisters that I have asked you to pray for. MLB is one and God is working on her. GAL is the second one. MLB and I sent her an e-mail telling her thank you for bring us together. We really meant it. What I got in return were 4 nasty grams and none of them mentioned the thank you we sent her. This sister is not happy and she accuses me of all kinds of things. I am not perfect and I know that and God knows that, but this sister goes beyond reason. So I am asking everyone to pray for her. She is very unhappy and will not admit it. God knows for sure what it is and I know He loves her. Thanks for all your prayers. Diana |
