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Toria
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Post Number: 78
Registered: 2-2006
Posted on Tuesday, February 13, 2007 - 5:22 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Praying for you, Diana.

Also continuing to pray for your dad, Jeremy.

Blessings,
toria
Olga
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Post Number: 39
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Posted on Tuesday, February 13, 2007 - 7:06 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Diana, I pray you will experience a speedy recovery. Take much care of yourself,

Olga
Olga
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Posted on Tuesday, February 13, 2007 - 7:08 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hang in there Jeremy! It must be tough for you and yours to be going through your situation. Praying that God will give you that 'peace that surpasses undertanding'. Praying too that everything will turn out allright with your father. God Bless!

Olga
Jdpascal
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Posted on Tuesday, February 13, 2007 - 7:41 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not knowing and then having to pry the information out of those who should know is not a nice position to be in when your sick.

Continuing to pray here too, Jeremy.

Jdpascal
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Post Number: 41
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Posted on Tuesday, February 13, 2007 - 7:44 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

praying for your shoulder, Diana, so you can have a comfortable weekend.

And praying for your gathering this weekend too.

Flyinglady
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Post Number: 3418
Registered: 3-2004


Posted on Friday, February 16, 2007 - 9:21 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for the prayers. I do not have a rotator cuff injury. It is one of three things-a bursitis, tendonitis or an impingement. It still hurts though.Even the doctor was not sure. I am getting PT to the shoulder 3 x/week.
I am at my sister's house in Riverside today and have access to a computer.
See all of you tonight in Redlands.
Pheeki
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Post Number: 858
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 10:10 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I know this isn't a forum on raising teens...but I need some feedback and had no where to turn.

I have a 17 year old daughter, who met a 24 year old divorced man and has been dating him without our approval for almost 6 months. My mother (the SDA) has enabled them by allowing them to be at her house, even when she isn't there. They are sexually active, I can tell. Plus, if left alone in a house for prolonged periods of time...plueeeze...like they wouldn't take the opportunity!?

My daughter works, goes to school and see him at my mothers. She only comes home to sleep and goes straight to bed.

No helping with the chores or our other kids...no sitting and talking with us...nothing. She does call me on occasion during the day...

anyway, I can't take it anymore so I told her to go ahead and move into my mother's house. My mother has helped her rebel and I can do no more!

Does anyone here see a problem with a 17 year old dating a 24 year old divorcee? What would you have done...just ignored the situation and let her stay at our house?

This feels like a death or a divorce. It hurts. Is this always how it is when you cut one of your kids loose?
Mwh
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Post Number: 525
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Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 10:21 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I pray for your daughter, the man, you and the rest of the family.
Nicole
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Post Number: 41
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Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 11:10 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

she's 17-you still can insist that she follow your rules. what is up with your mother??? can you have a conversation with her regarding your concerns? how can she be ok with her grandchild and a 24-yr-old man in the house doing who knows what? there is a big difference in the maturity of a 17-yr-old and a 24-yr-old (in most cases, anyway). it is tough, because she is 17 and depending how your past relationship was, she could not give you the time of day. but i would enforce the rules for her own good and tell the loser she is seeing to get a life (if your married or have a close male relative or friend, have them do it). plus, depending on the state, it could be considered a crime to have sexual relations with a minor.

and you are in my prayers.
Melissa
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Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 11:58 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In Kansas, the child has to be under 13 to be considered a crime. I think it's a problem, but I've seen it too close and personal from the other end.

You have to set appropriate boundaries for your family and the children remaining in the house. Stick to your rules. You've got other kids watching.

I'd have an issue with mom too!


I don't have any magic words, but I empathize and support you...for what that's worth.
Pheeki
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Post Number: 859
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Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 1:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks to all of you for answering. My mom is the classic enabler. My nephew went to the pen because she enabled him to do drugs and drink and flop around in her house...NO TOUGH LOVE AT ALL! She thinks I am terrible because I told my daughter to move out. She thinks love is accepting ANYTHING and EVERYTHING the kid does. She said she never kicked any of her kids out!!!

But let me tell you, I learned the hard way! Seriously, she didn't do me any favors not having any rules for me and condoning any behavior I wanted to exhibit.

I have spoken with her several times about how she shouldn't allow them to be together in her house. She says, "They will just sneak around." Well, they should. It shouldn't be seen as accepted by her, it gives the message we are wrong and it's ok.

The other kids are part of the reason I went ahead and made her move. If we don't have some kind of standards...seriously...what will happen to the rest of them?

I told my mother that I hoped my daughter was more of a blessing to her than a curse. I suspect my mom may get tired of the 3 birds and dog and boyfriend my daughter brings with her!

My hope is that she will come back home and be ready to be a part of the family...but if that doesn't happen....................................
Tisha
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Post Number: 225
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Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 4:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I know my situation isn't the same. However, I did have a huge falling out with my daughter when she had just turned 18. She did some horrible things to me and I changed the locks on my home immediately. She moved in with some friends that weren't good for her. My heart was just broken. I sat in the corner of the bathroom and cried for hours. I thought I would die. But I had to stand firm. Eventually, when she had a little life experience under her belt, she came to me, apologized, and asked forgiveness. I said I could forgive her, but it would take a long time to trust her again. We talked and worked though it all. Now we have such a good relationship that I can hardly believe it all happened. I know God protected both of us, and held us until we could come back together. She is my best friend now! Praise God he cares!

I pray that eventually you can have a good relationship with your daughter again. I hope she comes to understand why you have to set boundaries. Satan attacks at our most vunerable places, but God can bring victory!

I will keep both your daughter and your mom in my prayers.
Bmorgan
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Posted on Wednesday, February 21, 2007 - 7:17 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Pheeki,

I am so sorry to know the hardship you are going through with your Mom and daughter. It's hard to have to be tough, but all is not lost.

Some months ago I listened to a series entitled, "Effective Parenting" by Chip Ingram. He has a daily radio program, Living on the Edge. I found it was extremely helpful and empowering.

Chip gives very practical and biblical counsel dealing with our children during the good and hard times. He also reveals some of his struggles parenting his rebellious child and the hard stance he was forced to take at one point.

The program aired back in October 2006. Though it is no longer online, I found out when I called this afternoon, you can obtain the 3-5 CDs from the Ministry. The cost of the CDs is $25.

The phone number is 888 333 6005

http://www.oneplace.com/ministries/Living_on_the_Edge/

http://www.walkthru.org/site/PageServer?pagename=lote


I think the investment will be worth it especially because you have younger children. You can be tough and graceful too. I am praying for you and your daughter.
Erma


Colleentinker
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Post Number: 5427
Registered: 12-2003


Posted on Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 5:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Pheeki, I'm also praying for you and your daughter. Yes, in our state such a relationship would be considered statutory rape and would be sufficient reason for the guy to be arrested and serve time if charges were pressed.

You do have to set boundaries. If you're powerless to set boundaries on the 17-yr-old, then you must protect the younger children.

I am so sorry, Pheekióand yes, I'd have a problem with Mom, too!

Praying for both you and your husband to have wisdom from God re: this,
Colleen
Jeremy
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Post Number: 1716
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Posted on Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 6:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My dad did come home from the hospital on Tuesday of last week. He finally had the test yesterday, and he does not have a hole in his heart. So his TIA(s)/stroke(s) are still unexplained--but we now know that they were not caused by the blood clot(s) in the leg(s). But he shouldn't have been getting new clots while on blood thinner. I just hope and pray that he doesn't have any more episodes.

Jeremy

(Message edited by jeremy on February 22, 2007)
Helovesme2
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Post Number: 842
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Posted on Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 8:01 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

:-) Glad your dad is home Jeremy! I hope that the doctors working on his case will soon be able to isolate the cause and whether they do or not I pray that his health continues to improve.

Mary
Jdpascal
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Post Number: 44
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Posted on Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 8:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Still praying here, Jeremy.

give my best to your dad
Colleentinker
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Post Number: 5431
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Posted on Thursday, February 22, 2007 - 9:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Praying also, Jeremy.

Colleen
Javagirl
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Post Number: 362
Registered: 6-2005
Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 7:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Please pray for me and my son , this week and next. Last year at this time, I told my family I was leaving the SDA church. It was a traumatic time.

A few days later my husband of 20 years moved out unexpectedly. Four months later we were divorced.

On Friday my ex-husband and son leave for spring break to go out of town. THis will be the first time EVER I have missed spring training with the Braves and my son.(spring break family tradition).

My son and I talked about this tonight. There is a lot of pain on both sides. I am really struggling this week, with both loss and anger.

In addition, I have a new employee starting this week--I have prayed so much about this, and have been anticipating her coming, and her first day today just didnt go so well. I need prayer re this situation as well.

Thanks for those who have prayed all year for us, and please continue especially the next two weeks.

Thanks,
Lori
Colleentinker
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Post Number: 5451
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Posted on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 10:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Lori,

I will certainly be praying for you. These losses are so deep and painfulóand personnel problems are so much harder to handle when one's emotions are raw.

Praying, Lori,
Colleen

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