| Author | Message | ||
| Ernie |
I think the most dangerous aspect in the SDA system is the mixture of faith and works in their theology. The lack of assurance of salvation and the sense of half salvation as presented by EGW makes Adventism dangerous for the soul. Legalism could become dangerous if taken into extremes. For example, those who follow EGW counsels on health can, at one point, become dangerous to themelves and to others. Many Adventists are suffering of cancer and other dangerous diseases caused by the meat substitutes produced by Loma Linda (I know they sold the factories). The root of those problems are in the theology related to the health reform. People wanting to attain salvation by not eating meat, take upon themselves a very unhealthy lifestyle. As you may see, Adventism can become dangerous for the soul and the body. The only way we can avoid the mistakes made by the SDA Church is grounding our faith in Christ, and living by the principles of the New Testament. The Gospel is the medicine for legalism. May God help us to continue living and believing according to His Word. Ernie | ||
| Timo K. |
Hi again, I would like to know if the "Clear Word Bible" is an official paraphrase of the Scripture of SDA church or "inofficial", Dr Blancos own paraphrase? | ||
| Bruce H |
Timo K Why would anybody want an inofficial book. BH | ||
| Timo K |
Bruce, I think you are right. Why would ABC otherwise sell CWB if it weren't official? In my opinion, the Bible cannot be changed that way. I read Dan.8:14 from CW-Bible. Could't believe my eyes. | ||
| Joni |
Ernie, Are you saying that the meat subs. cause Cancer? I have never heard this before. I am inclined to think that using diet as a religion and trusting in diet to save you would be the reason for the Ca. Hebrews 13:9 says "Do not be carried away by varied and strange teachings; for it is good for the heart to be strengthened by grace, not by foods, through which those who were thus occupied were not benefited". I am not sure what you are saying. Should I not eat the meat subs??? What is the unhealthy lifestyle that those who try to earn salvation by diet eat?? Are you saying that vege. is not healthy? In my Church, a Missionary Church, the Pastor came to my husband and I and asked about tips on becoming a vege. My husband is one, I eat a little chicken now and then. My husband told him that it is good to eat a balanced diet along with exercise, but not to get carried away, and not to make a religion of it. | ||
| Ernie |
Hi Joni! I probably did not make myself clear. I am not against being vegetarian. Actually, I think vegetarianism is excellent when accompanied by a healthy lifestyle. However, the way Adventism promotes it is unhealthy. For example, the meat sbustitutes are made with vegetable protein plus chemicals (which in most cases are dangerous for the body). There is some bibliography available, you may check the internet for information on that. My diet still follows many aspects of the health reform, none with the express purpose of attaining a character for heaven. On the other hand, many Adventists take the health message to extremes so radical that it also becomes dangerous. I will give you an example. A member in a church I was pastoring was diagnosed with breast cancer. The physician recommended a certain treatment. A sister in the congregation told her that EGW had recommended the health reform as a way of attaining perfect health. She was taken to an Adventist "pseudo" physician who recommended a natural treatment that did not solve the problem, and eventually killed her. All of this practiced based on what the "prophet" said. I think your husband gave your pastor the best advise. However, in some of quaters Adventist would react against that type of advise. The unhealthy part of the health message are the extremes. And do not forget that Adventism has a tendency to be extremetist. May God continue blessing your new life of freedom in Christ, Ernie | ||
| Susan |
Just another perspective on this discussion of vegetarianism. I agree that it shouldn't be an issue for christians. I feel that meat is wonderful. I loved giving up this restriction. I eat it every chance I get. Yes, even pork! (All in moderation of course) Don't get me wrong, if some chose this diet ONLY for health reasons, I feel this is totally acceptable. Growing up sda, I can remember refering to this church as the religion of the "can't do's" when describing it to others. Meat was just another of the MANY things I wasn't allowed. It often made me feel like a total weirdo. I hated being adventist and always felt so different. I kept being told that we were the "special/remant" ones, but I sure felt unspecial and like I didn't fit-in anywhere. I didn't accept all the sda stuff, and I just didn't seem to fit in with the world either. (now I know it's because I belong to Christ's family and I fit in just perfect there!) The meat issue was just one of many that I loved rejecting. If God says it's o.k. that's good enough for me. Remember Christ ate meat (yes kosher, but it sure didn't have any loma linda stickers on it!) and he also fed meat to His followers(guess what they ate on passover night? It wasn't a soy product!!!). I don't think God intended for us to live this way. All of these sda rules take the focus off of Christ. Whose work is this? Satan. He'll do anything to get our attention away from the cross. I think it's really damaging for a church to inflict these rules onto people as what God has ordained. In my opinion it is spiritually abusive and very cultic. Not to mention unbiblical. "The Spirit clearly says that in later times some will abandon the faith and follow deceiving spirits and things taught by demons. Such teachings come through hypocritical liars, whose consciences have been seared as with a hot iron. They forbid people to marry and order them to ABSTAIN FROM CERTAIN FOODS which God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and who know the truth. For EVERYTHING God created is good and NOTHING is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving because it is consecrated by the word of God and prayer." 1Tim.4:1-5 Amen! The word speaks so clearly huh? |
