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Archive through November 11, 1999Lynn W11-11-99  1:31 pm
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Ernie
Posted on Friday, November 12, 1999 - 10:52 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lynn:

May God continue using you to clarify some issues in our minds. I really enjoyed your message about the Adventist artwork and the question of Jesus as the High Priest. To tell you the truth, I had never thought on the question of Christ fully dressed as a Levitical High priest. But now I realise that something must be wrong. Christ is not a Levite, he is from the tribe of Judah, that's why God made Him a high priest after the order of Melchizedek.

Thank you clarifying these important issues. Actually, I going to present some of your findings as an evidence on how EGW and the Bible do not agree in our seminar tonight in Montreal, Canada.

God bless you,

Ernie
Colleentinkerer
Posted on Friday, November 12, 1999 - 12:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A couple of years ago I received a partial manuscript from a person who had spent several years comparing EGW's writings with Joseph Smith's. Included in the MS was a comparison of EGW's description of Jesus the priest in his heavenly surroundings and Smith's description of himself as priest in heaven. The language used to describe the priestly vestments was almost identical, including the details of decoration. There were also similarities in the descriptions of the heavenly surroundings.

I personally never compared EGW with the descriptions in Smith's writings. But the comparisons in the MS certainly were interesting.

One of the founders of the magazine for which I worked talked to a recognized Mormon scholar (I don't know his name) and asked what he thought about the similarities between EGW and Joseph Smith. His response was that they both came from the same mileu: it was a period in history marked by prophetic voices and visionaries. Therefore, he concluded, (and the magazine founder concurred), they sound the same because they were in the same culture reading the same authors listening to the same people. They simply reflected their time.

Either way you look at it, that doesn't add up to inspiration. Since Joseph Smith wrote before EGW (incidentally, he was murdered in 1844), the similarities continue to seem like they could be more than coincidence.

By the way, Lynn, thanks for pointing out that Adventism describes/portrays Jesus as a Leivitcal high priest. He isn't!
Lynn W
Posted on Friday, November 12, 1999 - 6:09 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ernie, Go for it. Glad to help
Coleen, Do you have any of that manuscript? Sounds interesting.
Ernie
Posted on Friday, November 12, 1999 - 7:04 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lynn and Colleen:

My wife is writing a research paper for one of her classes, in which she discusses how EGW's Patriarchs and Prophets is very similar to John Milton's Paradise Lost. It is also very interesting to see how many of those "prophets" like Smith and EGW were the product of a certain culture. I teach a course on Christian Sects and Cults at a very prestigious university, and we have researched and discussed this thoroughly.

God bless you both,

Ernie
Colleentinker
Posted on Sunday, November 14, 1999 - 9:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lynn, the person who sent the partial MS wanted in back; the author was very concerned about it not getting into many hands since it wasn't yet ready for publication. I'm sorry I don't have it!

I just praise God for truth. Isn't it wonderful how God helps us know what's true when we're open to knowing?

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