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Colleentinker
Posted on Sunday, January 09, 2000 - 7:59 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Onesimus--I just want to tell you that I appreciate your succint comments and observations! And Bruce, I appreciate your commitment to Bible study and truth. Thank you, both of you!
Bruce H
Posted on Monday, January 10, 2000 - 9:13 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The "Seventy sevens" of Israel

1) ABRAHAM TO THE EXODUS
Promise (Gen 12:4) ------75 yrs
Gal 3:17----------------430yrs
75+430=505yrs
Ismael, usurper (Gen 16:16; 21:5) - 15yrs

505 yrs - 15 yrs = 490 yrs

2) EXODUS TO THE TEMPLE
Begun: 1 Kings 6-8------594 yrs
Completed 1 Kings 6:38-- 7 yrs
594+7= 601yrs

Servitudes:
_______________________________
Mesopotamia--Jud 3:8-------8yrs
Moabites-----Jud 3:12-14--18yrs
Canaanites---Jud 4:2,3----20yrs
Midianites---Jud 6:1-------7yrs
Ammonites----Jud 10:7,8---18yrs
Philistines--Jud 13:1-----40yrs
________________________________
----------------------= -111yrs
601yrs - 111yrs = 490 yrs

3) THE TEMPLE TO THE EDICT OF ARTAXERXES
1 Kings 8:1-66 1005 B.C.
Neh 2:1 445 B.C.
1005 B.C. to 445 B.C. is 560 Years

Babylonian Captivity - 70yrs
560yrs - 70yrs = 490 yrs

4) ARTAXERXES TO THE SECOND COMING
Artaxerxes to the 1st Advent
"The Sixty Nine Week"
69 times 7 = 483yrs
Church parenthesis ?
The Seventieth Week 7 yrs

483yrs + 7yrs = 490yrs

God is precise with his numbers!!!!!
For more information check www.khouse.org or
1-800-khouse-1


Bruce H

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Lynn W
Posted on Friday, January 14, 2000 - 6:07 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Fascnating stuff.

Just a side note. The 10th of Nissan was the day the people were to take (receive) the lamb into their house 4 days before passover. The year of the crucifixion, that day "just happened" to fall on the Sunday before the crucifixion. Remember what day that was? We now call it Palm Sunday - the only day the Jews, as a whole, ever publicly worshipped the Lord. They unknowingly "recieved the lamb" that day.

Incidently, the Lamb never rebuked anyone for worshipping Him on that day or any other Sunday.

Now for a question. SDA teach that the "he" of Dan 9:27 is Christ so it reads like this: "Then (H)e shall confirm a covenant with the many (Jews)for one week; But in the middle of the
week He shall bring an end to sacrifice and
offering (by being crucified)..."

They explain that the beginning of the week is marked by Christ's baptism, the middle of the week is the crucifixion, the end of the week is the stoning of Stephen. I've often read where they go so far as to say "on the exact day (the end of the week), Stephen was stoned."

Now, is it just me, or is there anyone else out there who cannot find one single clue as to when Stephen was stoned? I can't even find how many years after the crucifixion, let alone the day.

And why don't people ever question these things?
Shall we believe it based on the "vision" of one "prophet," or shall we be honest and admit that no one knows.
Jude the Obscure
Posted on Friday, January 14, 2000 - 8:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Right on, Lynn! -Jude
Lynn W
Posted on Saturday, January 15, 2000 - 12:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

First Day #9
Remember all those lessons promising to cover "every single occurrence of the first day in the New Testament."? They then proceed to review 8 occurrences of the first day in the NT as a means of proving that there is no significance to the first day.
As usual, they're not telling the whole truth. There are in fact 11 occurrences of the first day mentioned in the NT. I pointed out Palm Sunday above which is never mentioned in any SDA lesson. But look at John 12:1
"Then Jesus six days before the passover came to Bethany..."
Passover was Friday that year (He was crucified on Passover). 6 days prior would be Saturday.
Verse 12-14 - "On the next day much people that were come to the feast, when they heard that Jesus was coming to Jerusalem, Took branches of palm trees, and went forth to meet him, and cried, Hosanna: Blessed is the King of Israel that cometh in the name of the Lord. And Jesus, when he had found a young ass, sat thereon..."

I suppose they know if people try to look it up, they won't find it under "first day" and they know that most people won't look any further.
Lynn W
Posted on Saturday, January 15, 2000 - 12:42 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

First Day #10
John 20:19 "at evening", after the ressurection "being the first day of the week", the disciples were gathered together. Jesus appeared to them, but Thomas was missing. As the SDA lessons point out, they were not gathered in a worship service, but "for fear of the Jews".

However...
John 20:26 "after eight days (first day) again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you..." Thomas worshipped him saying, "My Lord and my God." (v.28.)

There's no reason to believe the disciples were gathered this time "for fear of the Jews", since by now Jesus had revealed Himself to them and given them the Holy Ghost (v.22).
Again Jesus did not rebuke Thomas for worshipping Him on the first day.
Lynn W
Posted on Saturday, January 15, 2000 - 12:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

First Day #10
John 20:19 "at evening", after the ressurection "being the first day of the week", the disciples were gathered together. Jesus appeared to them, but Thomas was missing. As the SDA lessons point out, they were not gathered in a worship service, but "for fear of the Jews".

However...
John 20:26 "after eight days (first day) again his disciples were within, and Thomas with them: then came Jesus, the doors being shut, and stood in the midst, and said, Peace be unto you..." Thomas worshipped him saying, "My Lord and my God." (v.28.)

There's no reason to believe the disciples were gathered this time "for fear of the Jews", since by now Jesus had revealed Himself to them and given them the Holy Ghost (v.22).
Again Jesus did not rebuke Thomas for worshipping Him on the first day.

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