| Author | Message | ||
| Jude the Obscure |
666 = EGW Hereís proof that the ìnumber of the beastî of Revelation 13:18 is ELLEN GOULD WHITE. E = 0 L = 50 L = 50 E = 0 N = 0 SUM = 100 G = 0 O = 0 U = 5 (U = V) L = 50 D = 500 SUM = 555 W = 10 (W = V+V) H = 0 I = I T = 0 E = 0 SUM = 11 GRAND TOTAL = 666 | ||
| Cas |
Jude~What are you doing here??? Are you serious? I have read where there are many names that equal 666. Are you really saying you believe that Ellen White is the beast of Rev. 13:18? Please explain... | ||
| Colleentinker |
I've seen the number 666 derived from several different names. I think the interesting thing here is that there could be several people who claim to speak for God when they are really doing the work of the deceiver. Enough said! | ||
| Timo K. |
Jude, I think 666 is a man-made trinity. 7 is number of "perfection"=God. 6 is of number of man. 666= false god, false savior and false spirit. (my opinion, not necessary the truth) timo | ||
| Jude the Obscure |
Ooops, caught! I should have known better than to have tried to fool www.formeradventist.com folk. Youíre just too sharp, especially Cas, Colleen and Timo, since you were first! What do I really think? * That there are probably thousands of names which you could contrive to equal 666. I've seen Franklin Delano Roosevelt done, for instance. I just think it's a hooting irony that EGW fits as well as she does, given the fact that, speaking in the name of the Lord, she applied 666 to the pope! * That it is questionable scholarship to try to use the English letters to apply to a Greek alphanumeric system, especially since English uses a different set of symbols (1, 2, 3, ...) for calculation. * That it is also questionable even to apply Roman numerals, as was done by EGW herself in equaling 666 to the Latin VICARIUS FILII DEI ("Vicar of the Son of God"), to the Greek alphanumeric system that St. John was using. Incidentally, I heard a Catholic Priest say that Vicarius Filii Dei is not a papal appellation in any case, and that the term doesn't appear on any official papal accouterment, such as the tiara or scepter. Remember, John wrote Revelation in the latter half of the first century AD, more than a thousand years before the papacy developed to the point where non-Catholic historians could recognize it. It's true that Greek is culturally and temporally closer to Latin than to English. But a first century reader of Revelation in Greek would still have little clue that John was referring to a papal system yet 1000 years in the future. * That the system breaks its own rules anyway. For example, why should the math be done vertically? It would seem more natural to do it horizontally. The answer becomes clear when you try it horizontally: Broken rule problem #1: Letters with nonzero values are separated by letters with zero values in many cases. For example in WHITE, the W (=10) is separated from the I (=1) by the letter H (=0). Why should we therefore add them? The rules for adding using Roman numerals require that in order for two numbers (such as X+X=10) to be added they must be adjacent. Broken rule problem #2: In GOULD the Roman numeral D (=500) is preceded by the numeral L (=50). According to the rules, then, you must subtract L from D! You then get 500 ñ 50 = 450. And all of the sudden the bank owns the farm! You lost. EGW doesnít equal 666 any more. Sob sob. * That there are other, far more serious, problems. For instance: The NIV text note for Rev. 13:18 says this: ìVarious schemes for decoding these numbers result in such names as Euanthas, Lateinos, and Nero Caesar (currently the favorite). Others take 666 as a symbol for the trinity of evil and imperfection ñ each digit falls short of the perfect number 7.î Timo, you nailed that one! A+ to each of you! Jude | ||
| Lee |
Hey Jude. How did you come to the rule that you must subtract anything when adding roman numerals? I do think that is off. The reason EGW is an antichrist is because she does not say Jesus came in the flesh. She claims Jesus raised himself from the grave. That is the teachings of an antichrist, according to the Bible. | ||
| Darrell |
The words of Jesus: "The reason my Father loves me is that I lay down my life--only to take it up again. No one takes it from me, but I lay it down of my own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This command I received from my Father." John 10:17,18 |
