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Lynn W
Posted on Wednesday, February 02, 2000 - 9:33 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dr.Tazz, you may never read this, but it's here in case you do. My first appology was returned with more insults & name-calling, so I will appologize again. When you first came on here with legitimate questions, I made the mistake of honestly thinking you were here searching for truth, or at least honestly looking to understand our positions. You asked good questions & they were answered by each one on here. One thing you will have noticed, the people here, who don't even know each other, showed a unified front. The answers were remarkably similar.

However, I also asked legitimate questions about your beliefs, which have been ignored. It doesn't seem to be a two-way street. This web-site has had a lot of hit-n-runs by Adventists who do not come searching, but only to blast away, then disappear. If you have anymore legitimate questions, I for one will be happy to answer. But like every Adventist I've met so far, you do the asking, no one else is allowed. I should have seen it coming - my mistake.
Jude the Obscure
Posted on Wednesday, February 02, 2000 - 12:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ernie and Lynn,

Thank you both for your elequent expression of the faith that lives within us all who have put the gospel into the core of our hearts. Your testimony is very very precious to me.

Jude
Jude the Obscure
Posted on Wednesday, February 02, 2000 - 12:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lynn,

I think you can rest assured that Dr. Tazz WILL read your latest post. And I think you can rest equally assured that he will NEVER answer it, at least not substantively. Why? Because it is unanswerable. It is raw truth.

Again, bless you especially much,

Jude
Jude the Obscure
Posted on Wednesday, February 02, 2000 - 4:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ernie,

What a great resource website!

www.ccel.wheaton.edu

I've been looking for just such an online resource:

Apostolic Fathers including the Letter of Ignatius to the Magnesians (c. 107 AD), the 1st Apology of Justin Martyr (c. 150 AD), the Epistle of Pseudo-Barnabas (c. 70 AD), etc.

I now have that website safely tucked in my Favorites folder.

I didn't know you were such a historian! Won't you do some studies for us on Sabbath-Sunday issues in the early church?

I once took a course in the history of Sabbath-Sunday issues from the late Kenneth Strand in seminary. But, as you know, he was a partyliner. For example, for my term paper I wrote on the question, "Did Jesus Break the Sabbath," drawing my documentation mostly from the Mishna and Talmud. The answer I came up with? Yes! As part of the assignment we had to make copies for every other member of the class. I don't even have my own copy now, though I wish I did. But not long ago a friend of mine, who's mired in denom employment still, told me he still had his copy of my paper! And Dr. Strand? Well, he gave me my paper back with NO MARKINGS ON IT AT ALL. And you can be sure, if you've ever taken a course from him, that he would have POUNCED on anything like a "mistake." But guess what grade I got. A? B? C? D? F? None of the above! I kid you not. Everybody else got a grade. Nooooot me! Although I got an A for the course. Now why didn't my paper get a grade? To this day I don't know. Dr. Srand, who was a personal as well as a family friend, died about five years ago, may he rest in peace, and he took this secret with him.

And since then I've tried to keep up on early Sabbath-Sunday issues, such as tracking Dr. Bacchiocchi's contributions. My copy of his book, FROM SABBATH TO SUNDAY, is as marked up as a zebra's hide.

Thanks again for the great resource website!

Jude
Lynn W
Posted on Wednesday, February 02, 2000 - 10:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"Now why didn't my paper get a grade?"

My uneducated guess is he didn't read it.

My friend's mom once pulled her out of a literary class so she wouldn't have to read Poe or something. The teacher gave her a substitute assignment - to do a research paper on everything EGW had to say about reading fiction. My friend worked hard on it & proudly turned it in. She watched him take, dump it in the garbage can, & put a checkmark by her name.
Jude the Obscure
Posted on Thursday, February 03, 2000 - 7:41 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Dr. Tazz,

Jesus, in Matthew 7:1-6 (NIV), tells us:

"Do not judge, or you too will be judged. For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you.

"Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.

"Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs. If you do, they may trample them under their feet, and then turn and tear you to pieces."

Dr. Tazz, what do you think He means?

I don't want to be referred to your church's "extensive writings" on the subject. I want to know what YOU PERSONALLY think Jesus means.

Thanks so much.

Your brother in Christ,

Jude
Jude the Obscure
Posted on Thursday, February 03, 2000 - 7:45 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lynn, you may be right about Dr. Strand's failure to grade my paper. Maybe he didn't read it. I've never considered that possibility before. Thanks.

God bless,

Jude

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