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Jude the Obscure
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Is it Sunday worship? Are you sure? Can you prove that from the Bible and the Bible only?
Max
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EGW: YOU MUST KEEP SABBATH BEFORE
YOU CAN BE SEALED

This is the test that the people of God must
have BEFORE they are sealed. All who prove
their loyalty to God by observing His law, and
refusing to accept a spurious sabbath, will
rank under the banner of the Lord God
Jehovah, and will receive the seal of the living
God. Those who yield the truth of heavenly
origin, and accept the Sunday sabbath, will
receive the mark of the beast.

--Ellen G. White, Manuscript Releases Volume
Fifteen, page 15, paragraph 3. Chapter Title:
Image to the Beast Formed Before Close of
Probation
Max
Posted on Wednesday, November 29, 2000 - 7:16 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

EGW: SABBATH-KEEPING = SEAL OF GOD,
SUNDAY-KEEPING = MARK OF BEAST

"If the light of truth has been presented to you,
revealing the Sabbath of the fourth
commandment, and showing that there is no
foundation in the Word of God for Sunday
observance, and yet you still cling to the false
sabbath, refusing to keep holy the Sabbath
which God calls 'my holy day,' you receive the
mark of the beast. When does this take place?
-- When you obey the decree that commands
you to cease from labor on Sunday and
worship God, while you know that there is not
a word in the Bible showing Sunday to be
other than a common working-day, you
consent to receive the mark of the beast, and
refuse the seal of God. If we receive this mark
in our foreheads or in our hands, the
judgments pronounced against the
disobedient must fall upon us. But the seal of
the living God is placed upon those who
conscientiously keep the Sabbath of the Lord."

--Ellen G. White, Advent Review and Sabbath
Herald, April 27, 1911, paragraph 26. Article
Title: A Study of Principles -- No. 8 (Who will
Receive the Mark of the Beast)
Max
Posted on Wednesday, November 29, 2000 - 7:21 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

EGW: SABBATH IS SIGN OF GOD'S
AUTHORITY

"When Sunday observance shall be enforced
by law, and the world shall be enlightened
concerning the obligation of the true Sabbath,
then whoever shall transgress the command
of God, to obey a precept which has no higher
authority than that of Rome, will thereby honor
popery above God. . . . As men then reject the
institution which God has declared to be the
sign of his authority, and honor in its stead
that which Rome has chosen as the token of
her supremacy, they will thereby accept the
sign of allegiance to Rome--'the mark of the
beast.' And it is not until the issue is thus
plainly set before the people, and they are
brought to choose between the
commandments of God and the
commandments of men, that those who
continue in transgression will receive 'the
mark of the beast.'"

--Ellen G. White, Advent Review and Sabbath
Herald, April 27, 1911, paragraph 23. Article
Title: A Study of Principles -- No. 8 (Who will
Receive the Mark of the Beast)
Max
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IS FAF FULFILLING EGW'S PROPHECY?

"As the controversy extends into new fields,
and the minds of the people are called to
God's downtrodden law, Satan is astir. The
power attending the message will only
madden those who oppose it. The clergy will
put forth almost superhuman efforts to shut
away the light, lest it should shine upon their
flocks. By every means at their command they
will endeavor to suppress the discussion of
these vital questions. The church appeals to
the strong arm of civil power, and in this work
papists and Protestants unite. As the
movement for Sunday enforcement becomes
more bold and decided, the law will be
invoked against commandment-keepers.
They will be threatened with fines and
imprisonment, and some will be offered
positions of influence and other rewards and
advantages as inducements to renounce their
faith. . . ."

--Ellen G. White, Advent Review and Sabbath
Herald, April 27, 1911, paragraph 20. Article
Title: A Study of Principles -- No. 8 (Who will
Receive the Mark of the Beast)
Max
Posted on Wednesday, November 29, 2000 - 7:32 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

DOES FAF "CHERISH HATRED" AGAINST
SDAS?

"A refusal to obey the commandments of God,
and a determination to cherish hatred against
those who proclaim these commandments,
leads to the most determined war on the part
of the dragon, whose whole energies are
brought to bear against the commandment-
keeping people of God. 'He causeth all, both
small and great, . . . to receive a mark in their
right hand, or in their foreheads.'" Not only are
men not to work with their hands on Sunday,
but with their minds are they to acknowledge
Sunday as the Sabbath. "And that no man
might buy or sell, save he that had the mark,
or the name of the beast, or the number of his
name."

--Ellen G. White, Advent Review and Sabbath
Herald, April 27, 1911, paragraph 13. Article
Title: A Study of Principles -- No. 8 (Who will
Receive the Mark of the Beast)
Max
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EGW: "SUNDAY, A CHILD OF THE PAPACY"

".... the third angel's message ... declares that
the Creator has always required and always
will require obedience to his royal law. But this
law has been disregarded and transgressed,
and is now being ignored by the churches.
Human enactments are placed where God's
law should be. Sunday, a child of the Papacy,
has taken the place of God's holy Sabbath."

--Ellen G. White, Advent Review and Sabbath
Herald, April 27, 1911, paragraph 6. Article
Title: A Study of Principles -- No. 8 (Who will
Receive the Mark of the Beast)
Max
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EGW: SPURN SABBATH, GET BEAST MARK

If the light of truth has been presented to you,
revealing the Sabbath of the fourth
commandment, and showing that there is no
foundation in the word of God for Sunday
observance, and yet you still cling to the false
Sabbath, refusing to keep holy the Sabbath
which God calls "My holy day," you receive the
mark of the beast.

--Ellen G. White, Advent Review and Sabbath
Herald, July 13, 1897, paragraph 6. Article
Title: God's Holy Sabbath [Concluded]
Max
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EGW: SATAN BEHIND ALL SUNDAY
EXAULTATION

Not a move has been made in exalting the idol
sabbath, in bringing around Sunday
observance through legislation, but Satan has
been behind it....

--Ellen G. White, Advent Review and Sabbath
Herald, April 15, 1890, paragraph 13. Article
Title: I Will Keep Thee From the Hour of
Temptation
Max
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EGW: SUNDAY-KEEPING = MARK OF BEAST

".... it will be clearly shown what the mark of
the beast is. It is the keeping of Sunday.
Those who after having heard the truth,
continue to regard this day as holy, bear the
signature of the man of sin...."

--Ellen G. White, Bible Training School,
December 1, 1903, paragraph 6. Article Title:
Who Will Do It?
Max
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EGW: U.S. IS SECOND "IMAGE" BEAST

".... the United States is the power represented
by the beast with lamb-like horns, and that this
prophecy will be fulfilled when the United
States shall enforce Sunday observance...."

--Ellen G. White, The Great Controversy [1888
edition], page 578-579, paragraph 3. Chapter
Title: Character and Aims of the Papacy
Max
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EGW: KEEP SUNDAY, "HONOR POPERY" &
KNOWINGLY ACCEPT BEAST MARK

".... when Sunday observance shall be
enforced by law, and the world shall be
enlightened concerning the obligation of the
true Sabbath, then whoever shall transgress
the command of God, to obey a precept which
has no higher authority than that of Rome, will
thereby honor popery above God. He is paying
homage to Rome, and to the power which
enforces the institution ordained by Rome. He
is worshipping the beast and his image. As
men then reject the institution which God has
declared to be the sign of his authority, and
honor in its stead that which Rome has
chosen as the token of her supremacy, they
will thereby accept the sign of allegiance to
Rome--"the mark of the beast."

--Ellen G. White, The Great Controversy [1888
edition], page 449, paragraph 1. Chapter Title:
God's Law Immutable
Max
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EGW: ACCEPT SUNDAY, RECEIVE MARK

This is the test that the people of God must
have before they are sealed. All who proved
their loyalty to God by observing His law, and
refusing to accept a spurious sabbath, will
rank under the banner of the Lord God
Jehovah, and will receive the seal of the living
God. Those who yield the truth of heavenly
origin and ACCEPT the Sunday sabbath, will
RECEIVE the mark of the beast .

--Ellen G. White, Letter 11, 1890; S.D.A. Bible
Commentary Vol. 7, page 976, paragraph 3.
Chapter Title: Revelation
Max
Posted on Wednesday, November 29, 2000 - 8:34 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

SHOCK: ELLEN WHITE SAYS YOU CAN
RECEIVE THE MARK OF THE BEAST BY
WORSHIPPING GOD


If the light of truth has been presented to you,
revealing the Sabbath of the fourth
commandment, and showing that there is no
foundation in the Word of God for Sunday
observance, and yet you still cling to the false
sabbath, refusing to keep holy the Sabbath
which God calls "my holy day," you receive the
mark of the beast. When does this take place?
WHEN YOU OBEY the decree that commands
you to cease from labor on Sunday AND
WORSHIP GOD, while you know that there is
not a word in the Bible showing Sunday to be
other than a common working day, you
consent to RECEIVE THE MARK of the beast,
and REFUSE THE SEAL of God.

--Ellen G. White, Maranatha, page 211,
paragraph 5. Chapter Title: The Seal of God
and the Mark of the Beast
Max
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EGW: MARK OF BEAST = SUNDAY-KEEPING

"When the test [National Sunday Law] comes,
it will be clearly shown what the mark of the
beast is. It is the keeping of Sunday."

--Ellen G. White, 7BC 980 (1900). Last Day
Events, page 224, paragraph 2. Chapter Title:
The Seal of God and the Mark of the Beast
Denisegilmore
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FIRST DAY ADVENTISTS VS SEVENTH DAY ADVENTISTS

"From the light that God has given me, fornication and adultery are estimated, by a large number of the FIRST DAY ADVENTISTS, as sins which God winks at. These sins are practiced to a great extent. They do not acknowledge the claims of God's Law upon them. They have broken the commandments of the great Jehovah, and zealously teach their hearers to do the same, DECLARING THAT THE LAW OF GOD IS ABOLISHED, and has no claims on them. In accordance with this FREE STATE OF THINGS, sin does not appear so exceedingly sinful; 'for by the law is the knowledge of sin.' WE MAY EXPECT TO FIND IN THIS COMPANY MEN WHO WILL DECEIVE, AND LIE, AND GIVE LOOSE REIN TO LUSTFUL PASSIONS.
BUT MEN AND WOMEN WHO ACKNOWLEDGE THE TEN COMMANDMENTS BINDING, WHO OBSERVE THE FOURTH COMMANDMENT OF THE DECALOGUE, should carry out in their lives the principles of ALL TEN OF THE PRECEPTS GIVEN IN AWFUL GRANDEUR FROM SINAI.
SEVENTH DAY ADVENTISTS, who profess to be looking for and loving the appearing of Christ, should not follow the course of the WORLDLINGS. These are no criterion for commandment-keepers. NEITHER SHOULD THEY PATTERN AFTER FIRST-DAY ADVENTISTS, who refuse to acknowledge the claims of the Law of God, AND TRAMPLE IT UNDER THEIR FEET. THIS CLASS SHOULD BE NO CRITERION FOR THEM.
COMMANDMENT-KEEPING ADVENTISTS OCCUPY A PECULIAR, EXALTED POSITION. John viewed them Holy vision, and thus described them; 'Here are they that keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus.'

Testimony for the Church Vol. 2, page 449-450
Denisegilmore
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THE FUTURE

"I saw that God will in a wonderful manner preserve his people THROUGH THE TIME OF TROUBLE. As Jesus poured out his soul in agony in the garden, they will earnestly cry and agonize day and night for deliverance. THE DECREE WILL GO FORTH THAT THEY MUST DISREGARD THE SABBATH OF THE FOURTH COMMANDMENT, AND HONOR THE FIRST DAY, or lose their lives; but they will not yield, and trample under their feet the SABBATH OF THE LORD, AND HONOR AN INSTITUTION OF PAPACY. SATAN'S HOST AND WICKED MEN WILL SURROUND THEM, and exult over them, because there will seem to be no way of escape for them.

Satan and his angels, and wicked men, who had been exulting that the people of God were in their power, that they might destroy them from off the earth, WITNESS THE GLORY CONFERRED UPON THOSE WHO HAVE HONORED THE HOLY LAW OF GOD."

Testimony for the Church Vol 1, page 353-354
Maryann
Posted on Thursday, November 30, 2000 - 12:46 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Denise,

Aren't we happy that we don't have to "live" by those books anymore!!!!!!!!!;-)

Maryann

PS....Let me know about Friday? 5:30ish?
Denisegilmore
Posted on Thursday, November 30, 2000 - 1:08 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maryann,
Happy is an understatement, let me tell you. Trying to live under all those impossible to do, requirements was living hell. I praise God our Lord Jesus Christ that we are free men and women!
Praise Him! :)
God Bless you and your household,
Denise
P.S. Will call you friday and looking forward to being back with like minded people.
Max
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EGW: NON-ADVENTISTS TO RECEIVE RIGHT
TO HUNT DOWN AND KILL ADVENTISTS

"A decree will finally be issued against those
who hallow the Sabbath of the fourth
commandment, denouncing them as
deserving of the severest punishment and
giving the people liberty, after a certain time, to
put them to death. Romanism in the Old World
and apostate Protestantism in the New will
pursue a similar course toward those who
honor all the divine precepts."

--Ellen G. White, GREAT CONTROVERSY, pp
615-616

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