| Author | Message | ||
| Dennis |
The first SDA belief that I surrended was belief in Ellen White. I not only firmly believed in her writings, but I actually sold them door-to-door for several years as a livelihood(known as "colporteur work" and/or "literaure evangelism"). Dr. Ronald Number's books about Ellen White first brought my attention to the facts. Truly, the unexamined faith is not worth living. Most Seventh-day Adventists know very little about their history, theology, structure, and policies. The Internet has been a great blessing to many Adventists seeking information not formerly available nor easily accessible. Information empowers the most humble seeker for truth. The local Adventist pastor has written us a letter requesting an exit interview before the church can honor our request for membership removal. So, after having left Adventism theologically several years ago; finally, it will soon be official as well. My wife and I are delighted to be New Covenant Christians(after being SDAs for over 40 years). | ||
| mark |
Hi everyone in FAF land, I've been reading your postings with interest but never joined in. Well, happy day! I am very glad to have access to people like you...it has been nearly 4 months since EGW began to unravel for my wife and I thanks to the Internet and help along the way from various sites that allow a different point of view than mainsream. It's a totally non-threatening avenue to be able to explore....Yes,I am a 4th generation-raised -in -the church SDA who at age 27 read afunny word in the Bible called 'Gospel' -(what could that mean???) Set out to find out.13 years later I know...More later. | ||
| mark |
Hi everyone in FAF land, I've been reading your postings with interest but never joined in. Well, happy day! I am very glad to have access to people like you...it has been nearly 4 months since EGW began to unravel for my wife and I thanks to the Internet and help along the way from various sites that allow a different point of view than mainsream. It's a totally non-threatening avenue to be able to explore....Yes,I am a 4th generation-raised -in -the church SDA who at age 27 read a funny word in the Bible called 'Gospel' -(what could that mean???) Set out to find out.13 years later I know...More later. | ||
| Colleentinker |
Welcome, Mark! We look forward to your contributions. We will hold you and your wife in prayer as you walk down this path. I remember so clearly the day I knew we were on our way out of Adventism, even though it would be a couple more years before we acted on that certainty! We're glad you found usóbut we're really glad that you've found the real gospel! Jesus' love is awesome! | ||
| Maryann |
Hi Y'all, The most important theme through all the greatly varied threads is that, "God is Love". You guys keep it up, I think I am FINALLY getting to "own" that Fact. Maryann | ||
| Sally |
Hi Maryann, I just wanted to answer your question about whether we were mainstream or self-supporting-off shoot types. I would have to say we became the off shoot types through the influence of independent S.D.A. ministries who think the church needs revival and reformation and to get back to the blueprint. Meaning ..E.G.Whites guidance of the adventist church.This seems to be the most harmful branch of the church as far as cultishness goes. But I think that some of the main church teachings are cultish too. It's great to let God lead and not feel like someone else(Ellen White) has the authority to be your spiritual guru. God bless, Sally | ||
| Dennis Rainwater |
Wow! It is so refreshing to find so many people sharing such a healthy perspective and lively discussion about Adventism. I admire what you are about. My wife and I are both fourth-gen SDA's who left the church about a year-and-a-half ago after a very intensive 20+-hour-a-week study for roughly a year. We finally became utterly convinced that each of the *unique* doctrines of the church were flawed. The further God leads us out of Adventism, the more thankful and joyful we are to be, at last, FREE!!! Leaving our families, our roots, our heritage, virtually everthing familiar behind is difficult -- but God's "grace is sufficient" for us! The path of discovery is an exciting one. | ||
| George |
Hi Dennis and Mrs. Dennis, Great to read your post! Only one problem with it. Not enough words! Could you fill us in on some more of your story? Reason: For everyone that post their story, there are literally hundreds if not thousands that need to hear "YOUR STORY" as they have one similar. They too need the human encouragement "ONLY" you can provide. Thanking God for your courage and FREEDOM and Looking forward to more........Maryann | ||
| Maryann |
Hi Dennis (again), Oops, I finally did it! I accidently put my brother's name in the place of mine. Sorry for the confusion. Richard! Fix it if you can, please. Maryann | ||
| frederick denison |
what a surprise to find this site! i grew up not only in the church, but also on the campus of sunnydale academy in missouri. both my parents were faculty members and my mother eventually became vice-principal. i lived at the school for 15 years and when i left i stopped going to church immediatally. i still find it difficult to talk about adventism without becoming angry when i think of the self-important way i saw all the "leaders" behave. i can remember being told that i was going to hell because i was caught with a comic book. i was forced to attend nothing but adventist school from the first grade until the time i liberated myself in my senior year. to this day i cannot attend church or even discuss religion. i would love to hear from any faculty kids who have similar experiences | ||
| Jude the Obscure |
Welcome, Frederick, Great to have you post. Regarding which, I think you have A LOT of company! Just waiting for more and more and more and more to come out of the woodwork, as Allenette puts it. Jude | ||
| Colleentinker |
Welcome, Frederick! Glad you found us! I'm not a faculty kid, but I'm a former faculty. I taught 5 years at an NPUC boarding academy in the late 70s-early 80s. It was my first experience with boarding academy, and by the end of my time there, I knew I would never send a child of mine to boarding academy. I can't begin here to go into everything I reacted to, but let me say, boarding academies are psychologically and spiritually unhealthy or sick. In spite of some people's sincere attempts to do right by the students, the environment fosters unhealthy behavior. At their worst, boarding academies have often been places where faculty with actual psychological deviances have hidden and wreaked their damage. We're glad you're here! | ||
| Palorenz |
Hi, Just found this site. Love to hear from anyone. I've been out of the SDA church for about 11 years now. Never any regrets. Paul A. Lorenz | ||
| Colleentinker |
Welcome, Paul! We're glad you're here! | ||
| Question |
Welcome!!!!! | ||
| Jude the Obscure |
Wecome aboard, Paul. Any time you want to share, you'll find willing ears here. -Jude | ||
| Maryellen |
Hi, I have been a little confused lately about my faith in Jesus Christ and the Sabbath Day. I want to know the truth and I thought I did until my employer keeps telling me that if I loved God then I would keep His commandments which he says that Saturday is the day that God honored to worship Him. Can someone shed some light on this? Thank you for any help. | ||
| Lydell |
Maryellen, hope over to the thread "God Smashes the Sabbath". Look at Exodus 20:2 This is the verses right before God gives the 10 commandments it tells you who He gave them to. There was no sabbath command given at creation, no record of anyone in the book of Genesis keeping the sabbath. God desires for us to honor him 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. We are to take our "sabbath" in Him. "Sabbath" means rest. By our own effort we can never possibly keep the law perfectly. That means we can never possibly be righteous before God without the covering of Christ's robe of righteousness. We can only receive that covering by allowing Christ to be our saviour. When we have accepted his offer of salvation, then we have that covering, then we ARE perfect in God's eyes, and we truly rest in Christ. To focus on doing anything, as an additional requirement for salvation is legalism. | ||
| Lydell |
Maryellen, what does the Bible say is the requirement for salvation? John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whoever believes in Him will not perish put HAVE eternal life." That's it. That's all. Just believe in Christ's sacrifice for you. Do you believe? I John 5:11-13 The testimony is this: God has given us eternal life and this life is in His Son. He who has the Son HAS life.....these things I write to you who believe so that you may KNOW that you HAVE eternal life. Do you believe? Then you are saved. If this man is adding an additional requirement to what the Bible says and causing you to question your salvation then he is practicing legalism. Beloved, there is therefore now NO condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. Do you still have areas that need work? HA undoubtedly....if you are human. But that is a matter of learning to walk with Him now that you are covered by the robe of Christ. It's not a matter of you needing to be saved over and over and over again. | ||
| Bruce H |
Marryellen The issue of the Sabbath is a real good study and I recomend that you study it, you will get a blessing from it. If you have question about the Old Covenant and the New Covenant what is the difference, is the Sabbath still requied or was if fulfilled. If you what to know what did God Command or what is God Commanding then you need to do a little study. You can study the post here on the web on the issues of the Sabbath. Or you can call our phone number 1 877 EGW MYTH and give me your name and phone number and I will send you a book called Sabbath in crises which goes over the sabbath issue. I will also lead you to other books both pro and con so you can make your own decision. Bruce Heinrich |
