| Author | Message | ||
| Denisegilmore |
DRUG MEDICATION DRUG MEDICATION IS TO BE DISCARDED. On this point the conscience of the physician must ever be kept tender, and true, and clean. The inclination to use poisonous drugs, which kill if they do not cure, needs to be guarded against. MATTERS HAVE BEEN LAID OPEN BEFORE ME in referrence to the use of drugs. Many have been treated with drugs and the result has been death. Our physicians, by practicing drug medication, have lost many cases that need not have died if they had left their drugs out of the sick room. Fever cases have been lost, when, had the physicians left off entirely their drug treatment, had they put their wits to work, and wisely and persistently used the Lord's own remedies, plenty of air and water, the patients would have recovered. The reckless use of these things that should be discarded has decided the case of the sick. Experimenting in drugs is a very expensive business. Paralysis of the brain and tongue is often the result, and the victims die an unnatural death, when, if they had been treated perseveringly, with unwearied, unrelaxed diligence with hot and cold water, hot compresses, packs, and dripping sheet, they would be alive to-day. Nothing should be put into the human system that will leave a baleful influence behind. And to carry out the LIGHT on this subject, to practice hygienic treatment, is the reason which has been given me for establishing sanitariums in various localities. I have been pained when many students have been encouraged to go where they would receive an education in the use of drugs. THE LIGHT I HAVE RECEIVED ON THE SUBJECT OF DRUGS IS ALTOGETHER DIFFERENT FROM THE USE MADE OF THEM AT THESE SCHOOLS OR AT THE SANITARIUMS. WE MUST BECOME ENLIGHTENED ON THESE SUBJECTS. The intricate names given medicines are used to cover up the matter, so that none will know what is given them as remedies unless they consult a dictionary.... Patients are to be supplied with good, wholesome food; total abstinence from all intoxicating drinks is to be observed; DRUGS ARE TO BE DISCARDED, and rational methods of treatment followed. The patients must not be given alcohol, tea, coffee, or drugs; for these ALWAYS leave traces of evil behind them. By observing these rules, many who have been given up by the physicians may be restored to health. IN THIS WORK THE HUMAN AND DIVINE INSTRUMENTALITIES CAN COOPERATE IN SAVING LIFE, AND GOD WILL ADD HIS BLESSING. Many suffering ones not of our faith will come to our institutions to receive treatment. Those whose health has been ruined by sinful indulgence, and who have been treated by physicians till the drugs administered have no effect, will come; and they will be benefited. THE LORD WILL BLESS INSTITUTIONS CONDUCTED IN ACCORDANCE WITH HIS PLANS. HE WILL COOPERATE WITH EVERY PHYSICIAN WHO FAITHFULLY AND CONSCIENTIOUSLY ENGAGES IN THIS WORK. HE WILL ENTER THE ROOMS OF THE SICK. HE WILL GIVE WISDOM TO THE NURSES. MS.-162-1897 SEEDS OF DEATH. When you understand physiology in its truest sense, your drug bills will be very much smaller, and finally you will cease to deal out drugs at all. THE PHYSICIAN WHO DEPENDS UPON DRUG MEDICATION IN HIS PRACTICE, SHOWS THAT HE DOES NOT UNDERSTAND THE DELICATE MACHINERY OF THE HUMAN ORGANISM. He is introducing into the system a seed crop that will never lose its destroying properties throughout the lifetime. I TELL YOU THIS BECAUSE I DARE NOT WITHHOLD IT. Christ paid too much for man's redemption to have his body so ruthlessly treated as it has been by drug medication. YEARS AGO THE LORD REVEALED TO ME THAT INSTITUTIONS SHOULD BE ESTABLISHED FOR TREATING THE SICK WITHOUT DRUGS. Man is God's property, and the ruin that has been made of the living habitation, the suffering caused by the seeds of death sown in the human system, ARE AN OFFENSE TO GOD. M-73-1896. THOUSANDS MIGHT RECOVER. Thousands who are afflicted might recover their health, if, instead of depending upon the drug store for their life, they would DISCARD ALL DRUGS, and live simply, WITHOUT USING TEA, COFFEE, LIQUOR, OR SPICES, which irritate the stomach and leave it weak, unable to digest even simple food without stimulation. THE LORD IS WILLING TO LET HIS LIGHT SHINE FORTH IN CLEAR, DISTINCT RAYS TO ALL WHO ARE WEAK AND FEEBLE. Vegetables, fruits, and grains should compose our diet. Not an ounce of flesh meat should enter our stomachs. The eating of flesh is unnatural. WE ARE TO RETURN TO GOD'S ORIGINAL PURPOSE IN THE CREATION OF MAN. MS-115-1903 COMBAT DISEASE BY SIMPLE METHODS Our people should become intelligent in the treatment of sickness without the aid of poisonous drugs. Many should seek to obtain the education that will enable them to combat disease in its varied forms by the most simple methods. Thousands have gone down to the grave because of the use of poisonous drugs, who might have been restored to health by simple methods of treatment. WATER TREATMENTS, WISELY AND SKILLFULLY GIVEN, MAY BE THE MEANS OF SAVING MANY LIVES. Let diligent study be united with careful treatments. LET PRAYERS OF FAITH BE OFFERED BY THE BEDSIDE OF THE SICK. LET THE SICK BE ENCOURAGED TO CLAIM THE PROMISES OF GOD FOR THEMSELVES. "Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen." Christ Jesus, the Saviour of men is to be brought into our labors and councils more and more. MS-15-1911 All of the above written by Ellen G. White. The writer of this book, Mrs. E.G. White, devoted nearly seventy years of her very earnest, active life to the gospel ministry. In her youth she was an invalid. In her early married life she battled with a weak heart, with cancer, and with other ailments, At the age of thirty-six she experienced a great awakening on the subject of temperance as it relates to health, to physical and mental efficiency, and to Christian living. The rigid application of the knowledge gained regarding the laws of mind and body brought great relief and restoration to her, and from that time on to the close of her arduous labors, a period of nearly fifty years, she was an earnest exponent of the principles of health and temperance. In 1865 Mrs. E.G. White made an appeal to the Seventh-day Adventist Church, of which she was a member, to establish a medical institution in which the sick should be given RATIONAL, DRUGLESS TREATMENT FOR THEIR ILLS, AND ALSO WHERE THEY SHOULD BE GIVEN INSTRUCTION REGARDING THE LAWS OF HEALTH. IN RESPONSE, SUCH AN INSTITUTION WAS ESTABLISHED IN BATTLE CREEK, MICHIGAN. This undertaking met with great success. The institution grew into large proportions, and for nearly a half century it has been favorably and widely known as the Battle Creek Sanitarium. Through subsequent years many similar sister sanitariums have been established in different parts of the United States and in many other countries of the world. The Trustees of Mrs. White's estate, having found in her letters and manuscript files many documents heretofore unpublished which contain valuable instruction for physicians, nurses, sanitarium managers, helpers, gospel evangelists, and Christian workers, believe that this valuable counsel should be sent forth to the public. It is our sincere hope that this volume may prove a great blessing to its readers, and through them, to a great multitude to whom they may minister. A.G. Daniells. 1932 Any thoughts? What do you think, should we stop our medications?? As for me, I will stick to my medications and live tonight. My father wasn't so fortunate. God Bless all, Denise P.S. Does anyone know of any Church that still follows this? I would be interested in hearing about what they teach. Curiousity I guess. | ||
| Cindy |
Dear Denise, Hi! Thanks for printing that. I no longer have my extensive library of EGW books; I'd nearly forgotten how extreme some of her views were...(I also just read Max's posts on another thread; no mustard, pepper, spices, pickles!) I'm glad you two posted these. How Adventists "pick and choose" what they want to go by! If it's all supposedly visions and light from God himself, shouldn't we more diligently try to follow these "truths"? In some ways, I can at least admire the so-called "historic Adventists" who do try to follow her lifestyle more closely; at least they are being more true to what she wrote... I wonder how the medical community of Loma Linda, etc. practice this "no drug" policy...I think they may say that drugs in EGW's time were so much more injurious to the system and that medical science has learned so much more now. I think I've heard this reasoning. I like what Proverbs 3 says, "Trust in the Lord with ALL YOUR HEART, and lean not on your own understanding; IN ALL YOUR WAYS ACKNOWLEDGE HIM, and HE will make your paths straight. Do not be wise in your own eyes; FEAR THE LORD AND SHUN EVIL. THIS WILL BRING HEALTH TO YOUR BODY AND NOURISHMENT TO YOUR BONES" !! (and I'm not quoting this to say we must shun medicine and only trust in God...I think God has blessed us with much good knowledge in medical discoveries and new drugs! I quote this to say that we do not need to get so preoccupied with a "pure diet" that we foget the main thing...resting in Christs' perfection and following Him gives us a real inner health and nourishment! Shunning pepper and pickles can really get to be an obsession, I know. Though I personally have never been inspired to live that way, I have had relatives that are. Almost going ballistic seeing these items in your kitchen...even EGGS! Were eggs a "no-no", also? At least they were to this person...) Grace always, Cindy | ||
| Shereen |
This is a subject that really burns me up. My son Liam, who is 12.5 now was a severe asthmatic most of his life. He is just moderate now. We have a great asthma specialist here in Edmonton and Liam was considered one of his worst cases. Liam spent alot of time in hospitals close to death. He had a horrible time and was on 40 mls of prednizone(steriods) a day for most of his life. The tested for CF a couple times but could not figure out why he was so sick all the time. His fingernails fell off, his heart was affected, his central nervous system was affected, he had a horrible psychotic episode one night, etc. all from the high levels of steriods mixed with other drugs. My church was against drugs and a few ppl tried to get me to do herbal treatments, chiropratic treatments etc. One doctor in my church was a chiroprater/natural path. He would do weird things like waving at his aura and all sorts of horrible things. He told me that steriods were made for animals and I was terrible to be giving these to Liam. I tried to follow his advice and just use the herbal medicines he gave me and Liam was having treatments, very expensive treatments, from him several times a week. Well, Liam almost died being taken off the steriods so suddenly. I rushed him to the hospital and they were pumping the steriods into him intravenously. He eventually got over that episode and I finally blew away the fog of my "church teaching" and used the common sense God gave me. I did slowly get him off steriods thinking the idea was to keep him alive not clear his system of drugs. If I would have continued with this so called Doctor, Liam would be dead today. I know of several other things this so called thinking has done but Liam was the worst. I always ask myself the question, how can a reasonably intelligent person, like myself, be so stupid as to follow blindly what the "enlightened" people at the SDA church said to do. One of the things I cannot forgive myself for is being stupid enough to follow all the "Adventist way of living". I sit here lots of times and want to kick myself. I just don't understand why I was so able to be so mislead and I was a zealot for SDA's I almost killed my son for SDA's. I have all the childrens books at home that my children grew up on. Propaganda. HOW COULD I BE SO STUPID!!!! I am really disgusted and upset with myself for doing this to my children and my family. Arrgghhhh! | ||
| Valm |
My parents follow this as do my brothers and their family. Recently my Dad who is 64 suffered a major heart attack and had to undergo a quadruple by pass. It was heart breaking to see this man who has kept the health laws so strictly for the last 10 years and pretty well for the 20 befor that go through this. On the positive side I do believe this would have come sooner had he not been on a vegan diet for the last 10 years. On the not so good side he had chest apin and warning signs for years but refused to see a doctor due to his distain for medical treatment. Praise God he always walked every day and what muscle he had left after the heart attack has prooved itself. Within three months he was walking four miles a day again with a 30% loss of heart muscle! He did wean himself off of all his meds and is on an herbal regime. However, this time he is under the care of a MD cross trained in naturo pathic meds. My brothers refuse to immunize their kids and only take them to a doctor if they are REAL sick. I worry horibly for these little dear ones. But it is pointless to talk to them about it. I THINK THAT BALANCE is what is missing. Natural methods sometimes are better. But in some cases they clearly are not. Liam is a great example. The number one cause of mortality with asthma is under treatment and not using steroids. The emergence of inhaled steroids has greatly reduced the side effects of steroids in children. On the critical side of the medical profession, they often give the medicine but do not do preventive care. Much of asthma is due to alergies found in the child's environment or food and finding out what is causing it and then using simple measures CAN MINIMIZE the use of drugs. The problem with NATUROPATHIC medicine is that in some states or provinces there is no set standard of practice. Here in Washington there are state standards for the education of naturopaths and their practice. They also can prescribe drugs if need be. I know in other states you can get a naturopathic doctor certificate through a mail order school and call yourself an ND. People who come tothese folks think they are getting someone with the educational background of a doctor and they aren't. This can be tragic. Shereen, give yourself a break. Much of being in the Adventist faith is slow and systematic programming of our thoughts and behaviors. You were not stupid you were programmed and it smetimes takes something as significant as Liam's poor care to arouse your true self. I know in my case and in my family's it is. When I broke away from the church is when my family became more radical. Living away from them I saw dramatic changes on my infrequent visits. Each time there were more dietary rules. I wouldn't even know how to feed them if they came to visit me. There are even more rules in the lifestyle category. I always wonder what will be next but the truely do not perceive themselves as radical but as sensible people. | ||
| Maryann |
I've experienced both sides of this coin. As a kid, I was NEVER immunized for anything. All I ever got were the measles and mumps. As an adult, I had to have dead polio shots because my kids had the live polio drink!! The doctor really reamed my mom out for this too. She also had to have the dead polio shots. The doctor gave us a song and dance about only a few Okies from deep in the Ozarks ever came out of the woods with no polio shots! He He He He!!!! My kids got chicken pox in 1997. I got them also! I was very fortunate because I only had about 6 eruptions and the fever wasn't to high! It was horrible as my boss was in the hospital with abdominal surgery and the other operator was having a hip replacement at the time. I knew I was getting really sick but had to stay at work as I was the only one left to dig with the backhoe at Caesars Palace! The day the pox appeared was the day I finished at noon. I went home and died!!!! I was a healthy kid, but what do you expect, I was not in school and so isolated that I couldn't hardly get anything! But, at age 10, I had a side ache and the doc figured my appendix was bad so he sliced me open and took out a perfectly perfect appendix. My parents had a fit. Due to that, the had asolutely no medical cost for the whole operation including the hospital room! More recently, I had a medical problem that had been going on for 5 years. I stormed into my 3rd "passive" doctor's office last March demanding a biopsy. He refused saying that there was no chance of cancer and ordered a blood test. When the blood test came back, he said that I needed to go on steroids for the rest of my life! He said I could have organ damage but I still needed the steroids! The last thing I remember going out of his office was stating my concern that I had cancer as I felt a difference in my body. He put his hand on my shoulder and said that I should not worry because I DID NOT HAVE CANCER! This was about the time I got involved with this forum. Our own FAFer, Bruce, was a blessing to me as he was able to get me into a "good" oral surgeon on 3 hours notice!;-) Long story shortened, it WAS CANCER! In fact, I had to have 20% of the side of my tongue filleted off and a piece of hind side grafted to it!;-)) Yeh, that's funny!;-)) Ha Ha Ha Ha!! We as intelligent humanoids, need to use our heads and ask questions! Doctors are great, but they are NOT GOD! I am a firm believer in herbs, diet and all that stuff. There are times when a doctor is much better than herbs and other times that herbs and diet are much better than doctors. My 1/2 cents worth.........Maryann | ||
| Max |
NIV Romans 14:13 Therefore let us stop passing judgment on one another. Instead, make up your mind not to put any stumbling block or obstacle in your brother's way. 14 As one who is in the Lord Jesus, I am fully convinced that no food is unclean in itself. But if anyone regards something as unclean, then for him it is unclean. 15 If your brother is distressed because of what you eat, you are no longer acting in love. Do not by your eating destroy your brother for whom Christ died. 16 Do not allow what you consider good to be spoken of as evil. 17 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit, 18 because anyone who serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God and approved by men. 19 Let us therefore make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual edification. Human commentary: If "the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit," then wouldn't the same be true with methods of healing -- "natural" versus "scientific"? A question to ponder. Max of the Cross | ||
| Maryann |
I don't think it's a matter of "natural" versus "scientific," I think it is a matter of BALANCE between natural and scientific. Matter of fact, I'm leaving right now to have Melissa's foot scientificly x-rayed! Oh grrrrr, I'm upset that there was an incident that even calls for this!;-(( Maryann | ||
| Shereen |
I agree with Maryann but there are times when a person can get so confused. We obviously rely too much on science, e.g. over use of antibiotics, to much use of medications for headaches, etc. I find it hard when you feel pressured, because of the belief system of church, to go natural only. If you don't you are considered less in their eyes. Once I had a horrible ear infection. I was in so much pain that I couldn't take care of the children. I was told to put onions on my ear. When I finally went to the doctor it was so embarrassing. My ear smelled heavily of onions but I got the "scientific" treatment and my ear was better. I really think there is a lack of common sense especially in ppl (myself) who are (were) brainwashed. I find that the problem I had with SDAism is that I truly believed they were right and inspired by God for everything. There are a couple of cults in Alberta, and probably all over the world, that have been in the news for letting their children die instead of getting medical help. I bet these ppl are very intelligent ppl but so blind by their belief system. I hope I can trust a group again one day but I highly doubt it. | ||
| Max |
Maryann, Does what you're saying mean that the believer who accepts the "scientific" approach to healing (such as myself) is now free to treat the believer who accepts the "natural" approach in an unloving manner? Or can the "natural" believer now treat the "scientific" one with contempt? Not to mention the "balance the two" believer treating ANY other believer in an unloving, contemptuous manner? What are you trying to say here? | ||
| Maryann |
Hi Max, I must have missed something somewhere?? Maybe I skimmed something??? Let me clarify. There is no reason for un-loving or contemptuous behavior between the scientific verses natural mindset. (Well, that is excluding radical exceptions.) My view is to go to the doctor and get a broken bone set and then go home and make sure you eat a good diet, vitamins, mending herbs and so on especially while you are healing. If one has high blood pressure, go get the proper treatment and then go on an appropriate diet to reverse the HBP. At a later point, you may be able to have your meds reduced or eliminated. If someone has clogged arteries, go get the proper treatment and then change your diet and exercise. That is all I ment by a balance between scientific and natural. Science and natural stuff work quite well with each other when appropriate. A friend of mine cut his foot really bad. He severed some important stuff in his foot. He never went to the doctor! He spent twice the time he should have all laid up because of it! This is a case where he should definately gone and had all the important stuff sewed back together and then done the "home thing!" You can believe me when I say I told him that this was the time to go to the doctor! But it was neither un-loving or contemptuous. As a kid, I was healthy except for a cold catching me way to often. This cold almost always turned into a cough. This cough would last for ever!!!! I got the butter and honey stuff along with a few herb things to boot. Sometimes my chest would hurt for weeks from the coughing!!!!!!! Really!!! After I left home, I found out there was such a thing as codine. I haven't had a cough that amounted to much since!!! This was a case where natural sucked and scientific should have been used! The stress my body went through with all that coughing was WAY more damaging then a bit of codine or similar! If I'm on a different mind wave then you, let me know. I just may have missed an important point somewhere above. If I did, I'm sorry;-));-(( :):):):)......Maryann PS....Melissa's foot had a "buckle fracture!" Grrrrrr!!!!!! I will have a few thoughts to share with the girl that did this to her! Funny thing though, the nature of this fracture caused her toe to shorten! It really looks funny;-(( Her toe sorta shortened like a turtle pulling his neck in;-(( Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr | ||
| Valm |
For myself, I have come to the conclusion that most people's health care decisions are based on what they believe is the best for them. I find it frustrating as a health care provider to see people reject what I believe is in their best interest particularly for their children. But I know that my brother's and their wives are doing what they are doing out of belief and love. I just hope the results are not negative. I think it is good to in a kind way talk about this because it is very serious. My Dad almost died because he did not seek care because he had contempt for the medical profession. However, while in the hospital his doctor and nurse showed contempt and a lack of accomodating his dietary beliefs. Their contempt for him caused alot of stress, disabled them to listen to his concerns or ours with regards to his care, and delayed his progress after surgery. The point is well taken that if we treat any person with contempt over what they believe nothing is to be accomplished. | ||
| Max |
Maryann, I'm not going beyond Paul. Just as in eating or not eating meat, or drinking or not drinking wine, or keeping or not keeping the Sabbath, so.... 1. The "scientific approach" believer should respect and love the "natural approach" believer and the "balanced approach" believer. 2. The "balanced approach" believer should respect and love the "natural approach" believer and the "scientific approach" believer. 3. The "natural approach" believer should respect and love the "balanced approach" believer and the "scientific approach" believer. | ||
| Maryann |
Hi Max, Then it seems that we are on the same page? ;-)....Maryann | ||
| Max |
: =]] wag wag | ||
| Maryann |
Okay, I give! You got the last wag ;-}} | ||
| Max |
|: ={ } woof woof | ||
| Loneviking |
Somebody up the column was asking if there is a place that follows EGW's recommendations. Two places come to mind--Weimar in Auburn, ca, and Eden valley in virginia (I think). Weimar has done a lot of experimenting with alternative treatments and various chronic medical problems. They've discovered that sugar causes a lot of problems for some types of arthritis. They have also found that a strict, almost Vegan diet can virtually 'cure' some diabetes cases. Wiemar also experimented with the results of 'hot and cold' showers and showed that the body increased the production of white blood cells as the result of this, so it probably helps to ward off colds and flu. Anyway, as a Resp. Therapist, I see a lot of folks that need to use some common sense in what they eat and drink. They kill themselves with a fork/spoon and or a lighter and then expect us to work miracles for them. It just dosen't happen! Eat a sensible diet, low in meat and sugar, exercise, don't smoke, see your doctor for regular checkups and enjoy life. BTW--Shreen, I'm glad to hear your son is doing better with his asthma. Steroids are a necessary evil---I know, I have asthma too. However, you really need to find out what his 'triggers' are and you may even have to consider moving. I had to leave smoggy california five years ago because I was almost steroid dependent---and at 35 that is way too young for that. I moved to Ohio and I haven't been on steroids in five years---yes, I still take neb. treatments and Accolate but thank goodness no steroids! | ||
| Max |
Hi Loneviking, A respiratory therapist, huh? Well, I have asthma and live in the smoggy Inland Empire of southern California. Though recently I moved upslope the San Bernardino mountains about 1000 feet above I-10 that snakes along the valley floor below. There are two reasons why it is much less smoggy up here: 1. Higher elevation. 2. More wind. About Weimar: ^^ They've discovered that sugar causes a lot of problems for some types of arthritis.^^ ^^They have also found that a strict, almost Vegan diet can virtually 'cure' some diabetes cases.^^ Experiments with ^^'hot and cold' showers and showed that the body increased the production of white blood cells as the result of this, so it probably helps to ward off colds and flu.^^ Has any of their research been published in peer-reviewed scientific journals such as The New England Journal of Medicine, The Journal of the American Medical Association, The Annals of American College of Physicians or Lancet? | ||
| Denisegilmore |
Loneviking, It was myself who asked that question. Thank you for your input. Interesting data at Weimar. Hopefully they will publish it, if they haven't yet. This could be useful for many people I know. God Bless, Denise | ||
| Shereen |
Loneviking, I just gave a shortened version of Liams struggle with asthma. There were allergy specialists and allergy shots. The shots invariably sent Liam to the Hospital within the hour. They watered down the shots alot but he had to be taken off the allergy shots. The whole house was cleaned every day including vacuuming the blinds. His bedroom had only his bed with the mattress covered and non allergenic quilts etc. Nut allergies gave us a huge scare and now he carries around an adrenalin kit, actually he was allergic to all kinds of enviromental and food things. Funny, but the vegetarian diet he was on was killing him. One day I finally made a turkey in desperation for him to eat something. Well, he was up almost every second hour asking for more and more. Thus started our exodus out of the vegetarian diet. I still enjoy lots of my vegetarian meals and Liam is getting better. He is still on steriods - pulmicort and beconaze and he is also on ventilon but he is sooooo much better. No more prednizone except occasionally for bad flare ups. I have learned to use the steriods to save his life but am able to keep him from getting dependant on them. | ||
| Valm |
Wow Shereen he has it bad. It sounds like as a parent you have left no doors unopened to help him. It sound slike you are open to and haven taken the best of both schools of thought to help him My youngest has food allergies but not to that extent. I know what a challenge that it can be on a much less severe level as he just gets eczema. Liam will be on my prayer list for full breaths of air and an energy level that can challenge the best of Moms!!!!!!!! | ||
| Max |
Hi Shereen, While Liam was on a vegetarian diet, how did he get his vitamin B-12? As you know, B-12 is contained in no plant food. Animal food products are the only source for B-12, and the human body does not synthesize it. | ||
| Shereen |
Max, He didn't get it. One of my regrets as a mother. I have done my best by my children but some of my ways were ignorant at first. Live and learn I guess. Val, Liam is much better now but he also has eczema also and it gets real bad in the winter. His poor legs *sigh* He is much better with his asthma these days. What I need energy for is to keep up with my baby - she is the most active but happy 16 month old I have ever seen. I am 43 and very tired. heheheheheh I also have a daughter turning 16 in February and I work full time. I am writing from work now. busy busy busy :-)) | ||
| Max |
Praising God for you, Val, | ||
| Max |
Shereen, ^^HOW COULD I BE SO STUPID!!!! I am really disgusted and upset with myself for doing this to my children and my family. Arrgghhhh!^^ To gain emotional healing you must understand that you are not sovereign. God is. Therefore, there is no sense in beating up on yourself with the "would've could've should've" whip. You were where your were with your belief system and your family responsibilities because God put you there. For his own reasons which are way past your understanding and mine. And so if you need to blame someone, blame him. After all, his shoulders are broader than yours. And he can take everything you can throw at him. And more. Threfore, trust him. For he brought you through and has now put you on higher -- much higher -- ground, did he not? Liam lives, does he not? God was there all the time. As someone has written, Truth forever on the scaffold, wrong forever on the throne, but that scaffold sways the future, and behind the dim unknown standeth God within the shadows keeping watch above his own. Max of the Cross | ||
| Denisegilmore |
Dear Shereen, I will be praying for your son Liam and yourself. Trust in the Lord, He is right there with you and your family. As for your taking your son off of the vegetarian diet, good for you! I was completely vegetarian but kept having seizures and tia's. I felt weak and couldn't think right either. I finally got to craving meat so bad I couldn't stand myself. Well, as soon as I started eating meat, my seizures got less and less frequent, also my thinking cleared up and I had some energy I hadn't had in too long a time. Later, I read an update (this year) by the medical journal and sure enough, my guess was right. They say that epileptics need the fat from animals moreso than non-epileptics. This fat helps reduce the frequency of seizures. Thank God for that news update as it only confirmed my suspicions. God Bless your entire household, Denise | ||
| Chyna |
dear shereen, one thing that gives me hope is that two of the people I know that are serving in leadership as my church (pastors), used to be jehovah's witness. i know you must be really thankful that even despite of following lies, God still protected your son. it kind of reminds me of the song Amy Grant wrote about a victim of child abuse. where was God when the girl was being abused. and the answer was that God was in the middle of her pain. anyway, I think you can channel the outrage you feel about being mislead into wanting to help others know the truth. maybe none guard the truth so well as the ones who have been deceived. so, even out of twisted versions of the truth God can still use something evil for good. like i was telling my friend today, that when you know about Christianity, unadulterated by false teachings, you want everyone to know it because it is so awesome, and you don't want anyone to go around lying about it, diminishing what makes Salvation the very thing that changes our lives. today, I heard a very reassuring lesson from the s.s. teacher. he said all we can do is recommend Jesus Christ, but we have to leave it up to God after that. And that God is fully able to do all the convincing Himself. what a relief. don't have to convince Adventists of their twisted truths. all I can do is point to the truth, but it's God that works with hearts. you know i think i might have read some research akin to the weiner guy. about cutting out certain foods in your diet that trigger pain. i was like: maybe i should turn vegan. although that thought was short lived. i think it's rather a humorous commentary that the same woman who commended medicine is the same one that has helped people to their deaths (ex. of early adventist missionaries in africa dying of malaria b/c they would not take quinine). the bible speaks gravely about false teachers/false prophets. in Him, Chyna |
