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Denisegilmore
| | Posted on Saturday, December 02, 2000 - 12:01 pm: |     |
PART FIVE TREATMENT OF SELF POLLUTERS: MEDICINES
As to medicines, only those that will help to correct any condition of an unhealthy character, and to tone up the general health, is about all that can be used with any hopes of benefiting the patient, I say patient, because one who is in this condition, although he, or they, may be up and about, yet, they are in a worse debility, than one with a sound constitution, who is just recovering from a severe fit of sickness; for his debility, as I have before stated, arises from the great draft that has been made upon the nervous system.
As to medicines, such articles must be used as will meet the wants, or indications of the system-if the bowels are costive, such articles of food, or medicine must be used as well correct this difficulty-if the urine is scanty, or high colored, a diuretic will be needed-the bathing, or sponging will help to correct the parched and dried up condition of the surface; and as there is known to be great weakness and debility, a tonic will certainly be required; and if there is costiveness, as well as weakness present, the CHOLAGOGUE, which see, may prove as good as any. If need be, however, the rheubarb may be dropped from it, or so much of it as will just keep the bowels regular; or, if preferred, 1 1/2 oz. of the red, or best Peruvian bark, coarsely ground, together with 1 oz. of cloves and cinnamon, may be all put to 1 qt. of any good domestic wine, or "port" if no domestic is at hand. This might however be prepared in larger quantities, say 1 gal., keeping the same proportions of the other articles, as this tonic will have to be continued for some time.
DOSE-A wine-glassful, half an hour to an hour after each meal, 3. And if there is considerable debility present, there may be prepared the following stimulating tonic to use before the meals:
Aromatic spirits of ammonia, tinct. of Jamaica ginger, chloroform, and sulphuric ether, of each 1/2 oz. Mix.
DOSE.- Put 20 drops of this to half a glass of milk, or slippery elm water, to be taken just before meals.
Dr. Chase's Second Receipt Book. 1873.
More on Medicines next part. |
Valm
| | Posted on Saturday, December 02, 2000 - 12:08 pm: | |
This stuff is just too bizarre. Where ever did you find it? Valerie |
Denisegilmore
| | Posted on Saturday, December 02, 2000 - 12:14 pm: | |
NOSE BLEED-SIMPLE BUT EFFECTIVE REMEDY:
In long continued bleeding from the nose-in which cases the persons are generally in a low or poor condition of health-tannic acid in the dry powder, applied by moistening linen, then dipping them or rubbing the moistened cloths in the acid and passing them into the nostrils, as high up as may be necessary to reach the point, has been found very effectual. If sufficient can not be made to adhere to the cloths, it may be made into an ointment by using a very little lard; then apply to the cloths and insert as before.
But it would not be amiss in these days of reapers and mowers, and other farm machinery, for families to keep on hand a small bottle of Styptic (an astringent that causes contraction of the blood vessels, and stops bleeding); and the following, or NO. 5 will be found very valuable.
Dr. Chase's Second Receipt Book. 1873 |
Denisegilmore
| | Posted on Saturday, December 02, 2000 - 12:27 pm: | |
Valerie,
Bizarre indeed and I haven't put the very REAL bizarre ones up. This information is coming straight out of 'Dr. Chase's Second Receipt Book' put out in 1873. I have old books and love to read these things.
An amazing thing about these books is that they put actual recipes in it for the curing of many things. Including in this particular one is almost an entire chapter dedicated to horses. Their needs, how to feed them, train them, break them, take care of them when they are sick, what to give them when they are sick and so on. These books have something for everything. So if there is anything that you are interested in knowing about as it was back in 1873, feel free to express it and I will find it for you in these books. This shows us how far we've come through the centuries. Can you imagine what others will be saying about us in year 2200 and on? We are slow too, in all reality.
God Bless,
Denise |
Valm
| | Posted on Saturday, December 02, 2000 - 8:33 pm: | |
What I wonder is how long were people fixated on this self polluting idea. Was this unique to the late 1800s are did it go way back. I thought EGW was one of the few with these ideas but it seems to have been a idea that many of her contemporaries shared. |
Denisegilmore
| | Posted on Saturday, December 02, 2000 - 8:53 pm: | |
Hello Valerie,
I have another medical book here and showed it to those at the FAF meeting last night. The copyright page and authors name are missing as well as some other pages. This book is very old and discusses things surrounding 1870. I know this as the person who authored the book speaks of this year as an example. Not only this but in this book are actuall prescriptions written out in ink and some are dated to the 1800's.
This book too, speak of self pollution. It seemed to be the prevalent thought of that era. Even as I grew up, it was thought that 'self polluting' would cause 'blindness'. As to how far back this stems is beyond my knowing. These are wonderful books with a wealth of knowledge as to what diseases plagued them at that time, what types of treatment were available, the beginning of water therapy, and, it seems, that these doctors knew most all the other authors. Interesting facts.
I have in my possession, a prescription for 'scarlet fever'. This in itself is a fascinating read.
These books are priceless and I'll continue to put some more of that centuries beliefs on here.
God Bless you and your household,
Denise |
Valm
| | Posted on Saturday, December 02, 2000 - 9:10 pm: | |
It would seem to reason that we would have all went blind as very young children.
When my kids were little we called it self discovery in our home. I wonder how many children grow up to view themselves as nasty instead of wonderful?
It is interesting to see that perhaps many of EGW ideas were not inspired or original but influenced with the thoughts of fundalmentalist philosphy in her time. |
Denisegilmore
| | Posted on Saturday, December 02, 2000 - 9:30 pm: | |
Valerie,
Many people have grown up thinking badly of themselves due to this philosophy. Egw's thoughts on stuff like this 'self pollution' and 'diet' are common of her day as I have books to prove at least a few of the prominent doctors of her time had and taught these same things. Of course, these doctors are not claiming their knowledge as coming in a vision. That is the difference, a big difference.
On the other hand, I have doctors of her time stating just the opposite of what egw and others said. I will put those here as well. Seems that things haven't really changed in this perspective. Today, there are constant opposites in teaching the supposed 'right course' to take, especially in matters of health. Btw, after my last post, I was thumbing through another book, the one with no author and some pages missing. I found, quite accidently, right in the middle of the book at the bottom of one page the name 'Fuller'. This name is also preceded with a big dot and followed by a small dot. Interesting eh.
God Bless,
Denise |
Denisegilmore
| | Posted on Saturday, December 02, 2000 - 9:35 pm: | |
Valerie,
As I was typing out that last post I discovered that those dots represent a footnote mark. I looked on the page to find the 'dot' and in this paragraph it is talking about nurses and how they should be. Here is where the footnote starts with the name 'Fuller':
"Yet she must recollect that preaching is not her province; and, when mistimed, even the best advice may prove not only profitless, but injurious; and this is especially likely to be the result, when the doctrines which she professes are of a controversial kind."
Now, isn't THAT interesting! Hmmmmm...
God Bless,
Denise |
George
| | Posted on Saturday, December 02, 2000 - 9:48 pm: | |
Denise,
There was nothing in particular that I wanted sculpted, I am always on the look out for some one that can do what I canít do so well myself. If you want to learn how to cast in silver, gold, bronze etc. there are some good books I can recommend. They cover casting with steam to hand made or hand held centrifuges.
If you want to ask Maryann for my e-mail address and we can go into this some more.
George |
Denisegilmore
| | Posted on Saturday, December 02, 2000 - 9:50 pm: | |
I can't help but post the entire paragraph. This has me wondering WHO was in the mind of the author of this book, while writing this:
Finally, it is unnecessary to say that a nurse should be honest, as no description of servant has so much in her power. But the honesty of the nurse is not to be measured by her respect for property; SHE MUST BE ABOVE IMPOSING ON THE PHYSICIAN, WITH RESPECT EITHER TO MEDICINES OR TO DIET. HER RELIGION, ALSO, SHOULD BE SINCERE, BUT NOT PHARISAICAL; AND ALTHOUGH SHE MAY OCCASIONALLY PERUADE HER CHARGE "TO PUT HIS TRUST IN GOD, THE FOUNTAIN OF HEALTH,"
Then begins the above, *"yet she must recollect that preaching is not her province; and, when mistimed, even the best advice may prove not only profitless, but injurious; and this is especially likely to be the result, WHEN THE DOCTRINES WHICH SHE PROFESSES ARE OF A CONTROVERSIAL KIND."
wow,,isn't that something Valerie? I wonder who he was talking about? It could be many a writer of that day but I can readily think of two.
God Bless,
Denise |
Denisegilmore
| | Posted on Saturday, December 02, 2000 - 9:53 pm: | |
George,
I will ask Maryann for your email address as this is up my alley, so to speak. Thank you.
God Bless you,
Denise |
Valm
| | Posted on Saturday, December 02, 2000 - 10:07 pm: | |
It makes me wonder. Val |
Denisegilmore
| | Posted on Sunday, December 03, 2000 - 12:04 am: | |
Here is something that is contrary to egw. On some other thread (about coffee drinking), I had quoted egw's words regarding this matter. Her words are exactly opposite this doctor. So here goes:
"EGGS:
It is NOT UNCOMMON TO HEAR that the yolk of a raw egg, beaten up with water and sugar, with the addition of a small quantity of white wine, is a light and nutritive aliment in convalescence, and even in some states of disease; but EGGS are much less digestible in this form then when they are lightly boiled. In Jaundice, however, arising from viscid mucus obstructing the orifice of the common duct, the yolk of a raw EGG beaten up with cold water is serviceable."
Author of this medical book unknown. However the book is real and exists.
I find it interesting that the EGG in WINE recipe that egw had given to the 'missionary' was not her own idea. She only left out the sugar and water, and she did not specify which part of the egg to use. This in itself shows that even back then, there were many differences in beliefs as to diet and how to treat the sick.
God Bless,
Denise |
Denisegilmore
| | Posted on Sunday, December 03, 2000 - 1:23 pm: | |
BITES OF VENOMOUS SNAKES:
"Either instantly cut out of piece from the bitten part, or apply a dry cup, to prevent the absorption of the poison. Suction with the mouth will sometimes answer the same purpose. After doing one of these things, touch the part with caustic potash. Internally, give Fowler's solution, twenty drops, in a little water, every two hours. Also purgative injections,-stopping the arsenic when purging is well established.
For the bite of the rattle-snake, THE ONLY KNOWN REMEDY IS ALCOHOLIC DRINK, TAKEN IN LARGE QUANTITIES, AND IMMEDIATELY. GIN AND WHISKEY ARE BELIEVED TO BE THE BEST. FILL THE SYSTEM FULL. When the poison has begun to take effect, enormous quantities will be borned, before intoxication can be induced. KEEP THE WHOLE PERSON SATURATED UNTIL THE SYMPTOMS DECLINE."
Out of a medical book written in the 1800's by an unknown author (the page is missing with the authors name) |
Denisegilmore
| | Posted on Sunday, December 03, 2000 - 1:55 pm: | |
The same book speaks of One-Idea Men, in the introductory remarks, here is a sampling:
ONE-IDEA MEN:
"MARTIN LUTHER was strictly a one-idea man. the whole force of his extraordinary character was given to the propagation of the single doctrine of JUSTIFICATION BY FAITH; and by the incessant efforts he made for this purpose, he sank the doctrine deeper into the heart of Europe than a hundred equally powerful men could have done by giving it only an ordinary share of attention.
WILLIAM ELLERY CHANNING was a one-idealist. Man, the noblest work of creation, to be developed, educated, adorned, loved, made like unto God, was the thought of his life,-a thought which he embellished and moulded into all the forms of beauty which our flexible language is capable of producing. Under the mild promptings of his genius, and the workings of this thought, PHILANTHROPY, quickened into a new life, spread out her arms, and embraced the world.
SIR ISAAC NEWTON, was a one-idealist. So entirely did he devote his great powers to ASTRONOMY AND THE HIGHER MATHEMATICS, that he became unfitted for the duties of social and domestic life-so unfitted, that when induced by his friends to give a little attention to courtship, he fell into one of his abstractions, and detected himself in USING HIS LADY-LOVE'S FINGER TO POKE DOWN THE ASHES IN HIS PIPE! But, Sir Isaac advanced mathematical science to a point far beyond its previous attainments, and laid it under such obligations as no general sholar could have done.
It is in this way, though in a vastly less degree, and without the scientific method, that one-idealists in medicine benefit the world. They seize upon some single remedy,-generally one which has been overlooked,-and using it themselves to the exclusion of all others, they press it upon the world as the panacea for all its ills. With them disease is a unit, and they have found its one all-important remedy. Thus convinced, they press it upon others with the enthusiasm of fanatics. Testing it in all cases, they develop all its virtues. Those who have the good sense to turn their attention to it have only to use it in those cases for which its adaptation is proved.
It is in this way that these men become, incidentally, MEDICAL DISCOVERERS; and not being burdened with modesty, they never withhold their importunities till the world acknowledges whatever value there is in their discovery. And although they may do some mischief with the single-edged tool which they handle so industriously, I doubt if they do much more than many better workmen who use too many. At all events, wise and generous men thank them for their gift to the profession, small, though it may be, and use it in the light of a clearer knowledge." |
Denisegilmore
| | Posted on Sunday, December 03, 2000 - 4:48 pm: | |
Yet another medical book written by R.V. Pierce, M.D. in 1883 called "Common Sense Medical Adviser, in Plain English; or Medicine Simplified"
Dr. Pierce also talks in great length of 'self abuse or self pollution, onanism etc..
Here are a few paragraphs:
"THE SUFFERERS MUST REFORM.
Just as there is no spiritual restoration without obeying the Saviour, so there can be no physical restoration unless we fulfill nature's imposed conditions. There can be NO SALVATION UNLESS SIN BE DISCARDED, and so there can be NO REDEMPTION from the bad effects of a practice, so long as it is continued. It is no easy task to master a despotic passion. Appetite is often stronger than the will. The treatment must begin with moral reformation. Every manly impulse, and all the higher qualities of the patient's nature must be enlisted in the struggle for virtue and health."
R.V. Pierce, M.D. 1883, Common Sense Medical Adviser.
There were, during these years, this same sentiment throughout the medical and theological precepts. It is no wonder that Ellen G. White, expounded so with this same line of thought. |
Denisegilmore
| | Posted on Sunday, December 03, 2000 - 5:48 pm: | |
ORIGIN OF LIFE.
"The ancients, crude in many of their ideas, referred the origin of life to divine determination. The thought was rudely expressed, but well represented, in the following verse;
'Then God smites his hands together
And strikes out a soul as a spark,
Into the organized glory of things,
From the deeps of the dark.'
According to a Greek myth, Prometheus formed a human image from the dust of the ground, and then, by fire stolen from heaven, animated it with a living soul. Spontaneous generation once held its sway, and now the idea of a natural evolution is popular. Some believe that the impenetrable mystery--life--is evolved from the endowments of nature, and build their imperfect theory on observations of her concrete forms and their manifestations, to which all our investigations are restricted. But every function indicates purpose, every organism evinces intelligent design, and all proclaim a Divine Power. Something cannot come out of nothing. With reason and philosophy, chance is an impossibility. We therefore accept the displays of wisdom in nature as indicative of the designs of God. Thus 'has He written His claims for our profoundest admiration and homage all over every object that He has made.' If you ask, Is there any advantage in considering the phenomena of nature as the result of DIVINE VOLITION? We answer, that this belief corresponds with the universally acknowledged ideas of accountability; for, with a wise and efficient Cause, we infer there is an intelligent creation, and the desire to communicate, guide, and bless, is responded to by man, who loves, obeys, and enjoys. Nothing is gained by attributing to nature vicegerent forces. Is it not preferable to say that she responds to intelligent, loving Omnipotence? Our finiteness is illustrated by our initiation into organized being. Emerging from a rayless atom, too diminutive for the sight, we gradually develop and advance to the maturity of those conscious powers, the exercise of which furnishes indubitable evidence of our immortality. We are pervaded with invisible influences, which, like the needle of the compass trembling on its pivot, point us to immortality as our ultimate goal, where, in the sunny clime of Love, even in a spiritual realm of joy and happiness, we may eternally reign with Him who is all in all."
R.V. Pierce M.D. 1883, Common Sense Medical Adviser. |
Denisegilmore
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2000 - 12:50 am: | |
CHOLERA AND DIARRHEA-ENGLISH REMEDY-TESTED IN 240 CASES WITHOUT A FAILURE:
Spirits of camphor, laudanum, and oil of turpentine, of each 3 drs.; oil of peppermint, 1/2 dr. Mix, and cork.
DOSE-For Cholera, 1 table-spoonful in a glass of warm, weak brandy and water-For Diarrhea, 1 tea-spoonful, in the same way.
This perscription was sent to the Scientific American By W.W. Hubbell, of Philedelphia, April 28, 1866, with the following explanation of its trial by the "Liverpool Dock Committee," which was appointed in 1849, to attend to that part of the city, in the cases of Cholera that might occur. And the Committee report "that 157 men of the North Works, and 93 men of the Dock Yards, who had been attacked by Cholera, or Diarrhea, had taken the medicine, and the whole of them had recovered. While 10 men of the North Works, and 13 of the Dock Yards, similarly attacked, but who had not taken the medicine, had died. In not a single case had the prescription failed. Medical men assert, and experience shows, that this is an excellent remedy, and well worth being kept on hand by every family."
A child, according to the severity of the attack, and its age, may take from 5-20 drops; and it might be repeated in from 30 minutes to an hour also, according to the severity. But it must be remembered, that in giving any preparatioin to children which contains laudanum, morphine, or opium, it can not be repeated as freely as it can with grown persons, for their systems can not resist the poisoning influences of opium, comparatively with the adult.
Dr. Chases Second Receipt Book. 1873 |
Denisegilmore
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2000 - 1:01 am: | |
HARD-TIMES CAKE:
Last though not least best of all, is a cake for Hard-Times;
Butter, sugar, molasses, and sour milk, of each, 1 cup; flour, 4 cups; eggs, 3; soda, 1 tea-spoonful. Sweet milk may be used; then baking powder, the same amount, in place of the soda.
If the "times" should improve, spices, or extracts of any flavor desired, may be used, with fruits also, as raisins, or english currants, to suit the taste, or the times.
Dr. Chase's Second Receipt Book. 1873 |
Denisegilmore
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2000 - 1:20 am: | |
CANCER OF THE TONGUE-REMEDY.
Dr. Weisse reported to the Medical Society, of the County of New York, that Declat had, in 1865, published a work on new applications of carbolic acid, in which he mentioned 2 cases of Cancer of the Tongue, treated by this agent, and 10 cases whose treatment was not then completed. He has since issued a work giving reports of 39 cases of Cancer of the tongue, 12 of which were of doubtful diagnosis (not positively known to be Cancer). His local treatment consisted in applying, in spray (probably by inhalation); to the ulcerated surface, a solution of 5 parts of the crystalized carbolic acid in 10 parts of alcohol and 100 parts of water. IN some cases, where a whitish fur covered the ulcer, he employed a caustic solution of equal parts of the crystals and the strongest, or absolute alcohol. Internally, he gave a solution of 1 part of the acid in 200 parts of simple sirup.
DOSE. One fl. dr. every 3 or 4 hours.
If this quantity prodiced nausea, as was sometimes the case, the dose was dimished. The remedy acted as a local anasthetic (rendering insensible to pain), promoted sleep, and improved the appetite. Sometimes when the patient was in a bad condition, he gave the bicarbonate of patassa, or soda, in connection with the carbolic acid, as recommended by Broca. Occasionally, also, he combined with the acid, the arsenite of soda, or the bichloride of mercury. By this treatment Dr. Declat had succeeded in curing ALL of the doubtful cases, and 10 out of 15 where the diagnosis was positive. In 5 of these latter cases, the treatment failed completely. In 2 only, of the 10 undoubtedly Cancerous cases, relapses occurred, but they were afterwards successfully met by the same treatment. In some of the cases clearly diagnosed, the treatment was continued for a year and upward, before the cure was pronounced complete.-The Medical Reporter.
The great difficulty with many persons, is, if they are not cured in a month, or less, the remedy is certainly good for nothing, and something else must be tried, while the true principle is, if you do not get worse, the sign is good-stick to it 3, or 4 months, at least, before giving up, even if no improvement appears. And it looks very curious to me, if the carbolic acid will cure Cancer of the tongue, why it should not cure Cancer of any other part. I should certainly try it, if occasion offered.
Dr. Chase's Second Receipt Book. 1873 |
Maryann
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2000 - 8:34 am: | |
Hmmmmmm, maybe I should have tried that!
Funny, my grandfather's name was Weiss!?
:):):)........Maryann |
Denisegilmore
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2000 - 10:49 am: | |
Maryann,
I put that up there just for you. Thought you would enjoy. There are other recipes too. Would you like to know what they are? :))
Interesting how far we've come in this ole world huh?
God Bless you,
Denise |
Denisegilmore
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2000 - 2:11 pm: | |
CHICKEN HEAD-CHEESE:
Take 2, or 3, or more nice tender Chickens, joint them, split open the back, and keel, as the breast-bone is sometimes called, then boil them very tender, and remove all the meat from the bones, and chop finely, when cold, place the chopped meat, highly seasoned, with salt, pepper, and a little butter, as you would common Head-Cheese, then pour in enough of the liquor they were boiled in, to make it moist, put it into a flat dish, or pan, putting another dish upon it, bottom downward, then weight it as usual. When cold, it makes a very nice relish, at tea, and to put into lightly buttered biscuit for sandwiches for picnics, etc.
Dr. Chase's Second Receipt Book. 1873 |
Denisegilmore
| | Posted on Wednesday, December 06, 2000 - 2:42 pm: | |
INDIGESTION AND A TREATMENT:
Take gum aloes, rheubarb, best capsicum, of each 2 drs.; white snake root, Virginia snake root (serpentaria), valerian root, canella alba bark, rasped. quassia, of each 1/2 oz.
Put the whole into a bottle, and add one quart of best rye whisky, if to be had, 20 per cent above proof, or a quart of best French brandy.
DOSE: From 1-2 tea-spoonfuls three times a day, just before meals.
The patient should use as little vegetable diet as possible, and as much animal as he can relish; such as broiled ham, broiled beef-steak, roast beef, or mutton, soft boiled eggs, or the muscular parts of game, or most kinds of fowl; he can take a moderate share of stale bread, or of hot, mealy, Irish potatoes; but in most instances anything that contains much starch will enter into fermentation, and result in injury, and we often quaintly remark to our patients, in reply to the inquiry, "what can I eat?" "Eat,,sir? why, sir, live like a dog-the nearer the better."
Give the medicine in tea-spoonful doses, until the bowels shall become open and regular, (and we believe we have never seen a case of this kind where they were not constipated), but be careful that you do not purge, and as soon as the bowels become regular, give this preparation in smaller doses, so as merely to secure one operation per day; and if there be no dropsical effusion we give nothing else but the above until the digestion is again established; but in most instances there is more, or less dropsical effusion, and generally a very sparse secretion of urine, and for the prupose of exciting the action of the absorbents and kidneys, we give the subjoined;
Take dried squill root, pulverized gentian root, 2 drs. each; nitre, or salt-petre, 1/2 oz.; sesqu-oxide iron, 1 oz.; cream of tartar, 3 ozs.
Triturate (rub) the squills and nitre in a mortar, until the squill is finely pulverized; then add the other articles, and mix all together; and the patient should take from one-third to two-thirds of an even tea-spoonful of this every four hours, or if it do not run off by the bowels, he can take a full tea-spoonful of it. Its operation on the kidneys and absorbents will be promoted by the patient drinking freely of a strong tea of the bark of the water-willow (salix latifolia).
Dr. Chase's Second Receipt Book. 1873 |
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