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| Max |
SCIENCE SHOWS ELLEN WHITE ALSO WRONG ABOUT TEA, ESPECIALLY GREEN TEA Kam S. Woo, M.D., professor and consultant cardiologist at the Chinese University of Hong Kong says people should recognize the protective effects of a traditional Chinese diet, including GREEN TEA. Woo believes it is no coincidence that Guangdong Province in southern China has one of the lowest rates of heart disease in the world. One reason: Their diet includes tofu and GREEN TEA. Researchers are not sure how GREEN TEA might protect against heart disease, but good research studies show that it does. Dr. Woo says the protective effect may have something to do with the antioxidants in the beverage. Antioxidants, which are found in vitamins and foods, are thought to fight heart disease by counteracting oxygen free-radicals. Oxygen free-radicals are unstable molecules that can combine with cholesterol to form oxidized cholesterol. In this form, cholesterol is more likely to collect on the blood vessels, forming fatty deposits that lead to heart attacks and strokes. The combined thickness of the intima (lining) and media (middle muscle) layers of the carotid artery are considered a good indicator of heart disease. In healthy adults 65 or older, increased thickness correlates with a higher risk of heart attack and stroke, while in younger adults, with no symptoms of heart disease, thicker intima-media reflects the probable development of atherosclerosis. Dr. Woo says other research is planned to look at such questions as whether GREEN TEA is more protective than BLACK TEA. "Our collaborative project will provide a unique opportunity to identify adverse and protective dietary and lifestyle factors, and the underlying mechanisms that may predispose westernized Chinese to heart disease," Dr. Woo says. "It will also contribute an overall better understanding of how we might use dietary means to help prevent heart disease in Westernized Chinese and Americans." From information provided by the American Heart Association available at: http://www.americanheart.org/Whats_News/A HA_News_Releases/11-10-99_6-comment.ht ml ************** Note from Max: Three things to keep in mind. 1. Green tea and black tea are both tea, and both come from the same plant. The difference is only in how the brew is prepared. 2. "Herb teas" -- such as pepperment, sassafrass, comfrey, etc. -- do not come from the tea plant at all. These are more scientifically called "botanical infusions," not teas. 3. While EGW probably only wrote against black tea -- she said drinking it was a sin -- black tea has also been shown scientifically to have considerable health benefits, though, as with green tea, the scientific community hasn't yet isolated the exact reasons for the health benefits. | ||
| Denisegilmore |
Max, Are you implying that 'the drink from China' is not a sin?? :)) Must I pull up sister Ellen's words for you? You are falling Max and I fear for you!! <wink, wink>..:::chuckling away over here::: God Bless, Denise | ||
| Max |
"Be angry and sin not," says Scripture. And I do have a healthy anger (and praise God for it), but not at Ellen G. White. I see her as more a victim than a victimizer. And I see her scolding at other people for eating too much, for example, while she herself was obese, as more of the same old "denial and projection" that tends to afflict all of us. My anger derives more from the SDA health-care community that has tended to become more and more "schizophrenic" (metaphorical sense) and hypocritical (literal sense). Tea, particularly green tea, is a most excellent example. These people who know better continue to back Ellen G. White's pathetic ignorance and false prophecy (prophecy means "speaking for God," not "predicting the future"). At any rate, I thank God for truly honest souls like you, Denise. Max of the Cross | ||
| Denisegilmore |
Max, Being angry at the hypocrisy is a good thing. At least I believe that. I too, have encountered, time after time, people who uphold Ellen White and all the while, they know better as they tell me so in private. I cannot understand it other than it is lack of courage on their part to speak out. Not that I'm all that courageous myself sometimes, BUT, to forever remain silent as to truth on such matters is downright lying! As you do, I too feel sorry for Ellen White. Having read so much of her writings, I can see that she truly believed what she taught. The thing that gets me, is that there are many who have no damage to their brain and they KNOW that some of what she taught is not so. Yet, they persist and insist that it continue to be expounded upon, drilling alot of guilt into so many of people. This is what angers me. When I see children growing up with guilty consciences over so many things, I am the most irrate person they could encounter. While I give credit to Ellen White for doing what she believed in with all of her heart (for the most part), I cannot give credit to the leaders for teaching the same things and knowing full well that they are untrue. Those are the ones I spy out and verbally spar with. Someplace, somewhere, it has to be stopped. The lies need to be silenced. The guilt needs to be banished. The Gospel of our Lord can and will take over. God Bless you Max of the Cross, Denise | ||
| Max |
EGW ANGEL WRONG ABOUT TEA TOO? ìAfter water, tea is the most commonly consumed beverage in the world,î writes Pat Kendall, Ph.D., R.D. ìThis is good news, because tea offers important health benefits.î Dr. Kendall is Food Science and Human Nutrition Specialist at Colorado State University Cooperative Extension Hereís what Dr. Kendall has learned from her studies of scientific health and medical research: Made from the leaf the evergreen plant Camellia sinensis -- tea reduces your risk of cancer. This means any tea -- green, black or red (oolong) -- except herbal teas, none of which comes from the Camellia sinensis plant. But leaves that do come from the true tea plant Camellia sinensis contain natural chemicals called polyphenols. They fortify your body with health-promoting antioxidants. ìThe degree of processing determines whether a tea will be green, black or redî says Dr. Kendall. ìGreen teas are the least processed. They are simply steamed quickly before packaging. Black and red teas are partially dried, crushed and fermented. The length of fermentation, which causes the leaves to blacken, determines whether the tea will be red or black. Regardless of the processing method, all teas contain polyphenols.î What do these ìnatural wonder drugsî called polyphenols do for you? According to Dr. Kendall they help protect your body cells from the something damaging called "oxidative stress." Oxidative stress? Does that have something to do with the oxygen that you breath in? Yes! While oxygen -- which is an atom -- is vital to life, points out Dr. Kendall, it also can be damaging to your precious body cells. You breathe in oxygen. From your lungs it is carried by your bloodstream to your body cells. There, in addition to all the good it can do, oxygen also joins up with other atoms in the body to form nasty stuff called free radicals. Why call these ìfree radicalsî nasty? Well, says Dr. Kendall, ìThese can damage the cells in our body and have been implicated in the slow chain reaction of damage leading to heart disease and cancer.î So oxygen, while being necessary and good, can also cause trouble when it joins the ìFree Radical Gang.î Big trouble: Heart disease and cancer. Iíd be willing to bet Ellen G. Whiteís angel didnít know that! But letís press on: So how these good guys, the Polyphenol Posse, help? Well, you already know their hideout -- in the leaves of real black and red and green tea leaves. And youíre smart enough to figure out that you can get them down in your tummy by drinking real black or red or green tea. But if youíre a Seventh-day Adventist youíve got a big problem right here: How do we know Ellen G. Whiteís angel is wrong and Godís angel of ìscience truly so-calledî is right? Well, Dr. Kendall is a very nice person and an excellent scientist and sheís right here with a big smile to tell you the answer: ìMany studies have demonstrated the anti-cancer properties of polyphenols,î she says. ìThey can stop the damage that free radicals do to cells, neutralize enzymes essential for tumor growth, and deactivate cancer promoters.î Okaaay! So they help stop the Free Radical Gang from tearing up your bodyís tissue cells. Perhaps, being a little more doubtful of the veracity of Ellenís angel now, youíve decided to trust Godís angel of ìscience truly so-calledî just a little bit more and -- shudder -- TRY SOME! Donít worry. The kindly medical scientist, Dr. Kendall, is right here to help you. ìAlthough much remains to be learned about the health benefits of tea,î she says, ìit is considered a good choice for at least some of the 6 to 8 cups or glasses of fluids recommended daily. The best teas are those brewed from loose leaves or tea bags of black, green or red tea, as they have the most antioxidant power. Allow your tea to steep for three to five minutes to allow the maximum amount of antioxidants to be released. Iced teas can provide as much antioxidant power as hot teas. Keep them covered and refrigerated. Bottled teas often have a lower antioxidant level because they contain mostly water and sugar.î Now that wasnít so bad was it? Why donít we let our hair down now and call Dr. Kendall by her first name, Pat. Any questions? Yes, you, over there sitting in front of that PC screen. Iíll repeat the question for our onlooking lurkers: ìShould I put milk in my tea? Will milk weaken the antioxidant effect?î And heeeeerís Kim: ìSome people think that milk lowers tea's anti-oxidant power because it binds to polyphenols and inactivates them. This has not been proven, however, so go ahead and add some milk if you like. You'll also increase your calcium intake.î Ah, so if your a woman at risk for osteoporosis, you can get some of your necessary daily calcium by adding milk to your tea! Thank you, Dr. Pat! That was good. Any other questions? Yes, you there, right in the heart of Loma Linda, California: ìAre there any other health benefits to drinking tea?î Excellent question! Itís long been said that the smartest Adventists live in Loma Linda. Dr. Kim? ìTea also has fluoride for strong teeth, virtually no calories, and half the amount of caffeine found in an equally-sized cup of coffee.î And you, up there in Berrien Springs in the red-brick house, almost under the shadow of the beautiful Andrews University Pioneer Memorial Church: ìWhat about decaf tea?î Dr. Pat: ìWhether decaffeinated teas have the same polyphenols, and thus the same health benefits, as regular teas has not yet been studied. Caffeine is a natural component of tea leaves. It is not yet known if removing caffeine also removes polyphenols.î Well there you have it, dear Adventist friends. Hereís a toast of tea to your health and preventive medicine. | ||
| Max |
Source for above news story: http://www.colostate.edu/depts/CoopExt/ | ||
| Max |
And now hear from Sr. White: I saw that the stewards of the Lord have no duty to help those persons who persist in using tobacco, TEA, and coffee. --Ellen G. White, Testimonies, vol. 1, p. 224 I do not use tea, either GREEN or BLACK. Not a spoonful has passed my lips for many years, except when crossing the ocean, and once since on this side I took it as a medicine when I was sick and vomiting. In such circumstances it may prove a present relief. --Ellen G. White, Testimonies on the Case of Elder E.P. Daniels, p. 53 Why would Ellen's angel tell her to urge shunning of SDA ministers who drank tea? Is this evidence that she was prevaricating? Or that her angel was mis-informed? And if mis-informed, why mis-informed? Not from God? And if not from God, then from where? Or from whom? Furthermore, if wrong about tea, then wrong about the investigative judgment? Wrong about Christ not sitting down at the right hand of the Father and making atonement for sin then and there? Two-thousand years ago? Not waiting till 1844? Questions for the honest in heart to ask? Max of the Cross | ||
| Valm |
Max, That was a creative and entertaining presentation. Have you thought of advertising? You have just convinced me to get out the pot and brew some tea. Valerie | ||
| Max |
Healing News: ELLENíS ANGEL WRONG! TEA HEALTHFUL: Numerous studies prove both black and green teas to have medical benefits BOTH BLACK AND GREEN TEAS FIGHT CANCER IN EARLY STAGES Numerous studies have shown BOTH BLACK AND GREEN TEAS to HAVE MEDICAL BENEFITS. But that's not surprising, some say, because tea contains many of the same compounds that other HEALING PLANTS do. North Americans are steeping in news about the healthful effects of tea, as an ANTIOXIDANTS and as a possible AID in REDUCING the risks of STROKE, HEART DISEASE AND CANCER. But with studies appearing almost monthly, consumers may be confused about what scientists have learned about this beneficial brew. Scientist, health experts and tea industry officials met in Washington, D.C., to review the latest research. In the many papers presented at the Second International Scientific Symposium on Tea and Human Health, they reaffirmed what is already known about tea. * 1. TEA MAY PROTECT AGAINST several types of cancer: ORAL, DIGESTIVE, LUNG AND COLORECTAL CANCERS. * 2. TEA HAS equal and, in some cases, GREATER ANTIOXIDANT POWER THAN many FRUITS AND VEGETABLES. * 3. TEA MAY REDUCE the risk of STROKE and HEART DISEASE. * 4. Although many studies have focused on green tea, BLACK TEA by far more popular SEEMS TO HAVE THE SAME POSITIVE BENEFITS AS GREEN TEA. Perhaps the most significant of the symposium's findings was a new study that showed evidence that TEA CAN PROTECT AGAINST PRE-CANCEROUS CONDITIONS. Dr. Junshi Chen of the Chinese Academy of Preventive Medicine in Beijing studied 59 patients who had been diagnosed with pre-cancerous oral lesions, white, bumpy areas on the cheeks or gums. In his study, Chen had the patients rinse their mouths with the components found in green and black tea. He also painted a mixture of tea and glycerin on the patient's lesions. Chen found that the treatment both orally and topically inhibited the growth of pre-cancerous cells. "This is the first time WE HAVE SEEN TEA PLAY A MAJOR ROLE IN PROTECTION AGAINST THE FORMATION OF CANCER in humans," Chen said in a written statement. The results of the Chinese study suggest that OTHER epithelial [SKIN] CANCERS might be SIMILARLY AFFECTED BY treatment with TEA, says Jeffrey Blumberg, a senior scientist at the Jean Mayer U.S.D.A. Human Nutrition Research Center on Aging at Tufts University in Boston. "[TEA] actually CAUSED A REGRESSION," Blumberg says of the Chinese study. "Obviously the responses varied, patient to patient. In some, [CANCER] JUST DISAPPEARED, in some, there was a marked regression, but it didn't disappear. "Frankly, I consider this to be good news, but its not exactly knock your socks off, where did this come from?" Blumberg says. "You have to remember that these compounds in TEA are SIMILAR TO compounds that we find in FRUITS AND VEGETABLES." TEA may also play a role in retarding [SLOWING] the development of LUNG CANCER, according to studies by a researcher from the American Health Foundation of Valhalla, N.Y., a non profit group that conducts research in preventive medicine. The researcher, Fung Lung Chung, found that consuming either black or green TEA retarded [SLOWED] the development of LUNG TUMORS in mice and rats. Another study, conducted on humans by J.E. Klaunig of the Indiana University School of Medicine, found that BLACK AND GREEN TEA REDUCED THE LEVEL OF OXIDATIVE STRESS [THAT DAMAGES CELLS], particularly in smokers. Oxidative stress cell damage associated with environmental factors such as chemicals, heavy metals and ultraviolet light. The TEA ingredients RESPONSIBLE FOR these efforts are ANTIOXIDANTS called plant polyphenols, a broad class of plant compounds found in both green and black tea. Some of the compounds are unique to tea, but some are SIMILAR TO antioxidants found in BROCCOLI, SPINACH, TOMATOES AND OTHER FRUITS AND VEGETABLES. Dr. John Weisberger of the American Health Foundation has said that the quantity of these plant compounds in TWO CUPS OF TEA is roughly EQUIVALENT TO what you would find in ONE SERVING OF FRUITS AND VEGETABLES. This is not, however, to suggest that anyone could get by in life just drinking tea. The volume of research on tea led to the first symposium on tea and health in 1991. The latest gathering, at a U.S. DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE, was sponsored by the AMERICAN HEALTH FOUNDATION, the AMERICAN CANCER SOCIETY, the Nutritional Committee of the AMERICAN HEART ASSOCIATION and the TEA COUNCIL OF THE U.S.A. In Terms of research, there are more studies on green tea than on black tea. Both come from the same Camellia sinensis plant, but each is processed differently. Black tea is made by exposing the leaves to air, which turns them reddish brown and gives black tea its flavor. Green tea, most popular in Japan and China, involves the least processing. The green leaves are steamed or heated, and keep their color. Oolong tea is halfway between green and black in terms of processing. HERBAL TEA is a mixture of other plant leaves, flowers of roots, and can include fruit or spice flavoring. Its HEALTH EFFECTS are NOT KNOWN. BENEFICIAL ANTIOXIDANTS ARE FOUND IN BOTH GREEN AND BLACK TEA, but in green tea there are more varieties of the same molecules, Blumberg says. Some antioxidants in green tea are converted into different antioxidants in black tea. But, Blumberg says, more research is needed. "Tea is a very complex beverage. Relative to other issues of nutrition and health, our understanding of tea is still relatively elementary." DRINKING DECAF? Apparently it doesn't matter whether the tea comes with a buzz. CAFFEINATED AND DECAFFEINATED TEA BOTH HAVE BENEFICIAL ANTIOXIDANTS, says Joe Simrany, president of the Tea Council of the U.S.A. Tests performed by Rutgers University researchers found that decaffeinated tea has most, if not all, of the active chemicals components that appear to be acting as antioxidants in tea, Simray says. Judging FROM the RESEARCH, it appears that TEA is MUCH BETTER FOR YOU than some things you could be drinking. "If you are trying to get on board with eating a healthful diet, it makes some sense to think about drinking healthful drinks, not just eating healthful foods, "Blumberg, says. "When you think about the healthful attributes of these fruits and vegetables, here's another food that has similar characteristics, and doesn't have the negative attributes, DOESNíT HAVE the FAT, OR the CHOLESTEROL. SOURCE: http://www.cadvision.com/dwornika/insight/tea .htm | ||
| Max |
Tea Council of the U.S.A. explains: WHATíS IN TEA THATíS SO GOOOOD FOR YOU PHYTOCHEMICALS * Naturally occurring compounds, many of which are thought to play a role in DECREASING the risk of CANCER AND HEART DISEASE AND of BOOSTING the IMMUNE SYSTEM. Polyphenols * A broad class of antioxidant phytochemicals found throughout the plant kingdom. Flavonoids * A class of polyphenolic photochemicals that are antioxidants. Flavonols * A group of FLAVONOIDS found IN TEA and many fruits and vegetables that ARE ANTIOXIDANTS. They include rutin, quescetin and kaempherol. Cathechins * A group of ANTIOXIDANT FLAVONOIDS also found IN TEA AND some FRUITS. Example include epicatechin and epigallocatechin gallate. Epigallocatechin Gallate * The principal cathechin in green and black teas, and a STRONG ANTIOXIDANT. It has SHOWN TO REDUCE formation of LUNG TUMORS, ESOPHAGEAL TUMORS AND SKIN TUMORS. Theaflavins * Black tea flavonoids produced from catechins during tea manufacturing and colored reddish orange. They are STRONG ANTIOXIDANTS and have PROVED IN RESEARCH TO REDUCE ESOPHAGEAL TUMORS AND oxidative DAMAGE TO LUNG TISSUE. Thearubigins * Black tea flavonoids, which are brown and astringent, produced from carechins during tea manufacturing. Gallic acid * A POLYPHENOL IN BLACK AND GREEN TEA WITH ESTABLISHED ANTIOXIDANT ACTIVITY. SOURCE: http://www.cadvision.com/dwornika/insight/tea .htm | ||
| Valm |
It is soo GOOD to know one of my habits has such redeeming qualities. I am going to brew a pot in a minute!! |
