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Darrell
| | Posted on Monday, December 13, 1999 - 7:00 am: |     |
Bruce, notice that Romans 10:4 says that "Christ is the end of the law for righteousness", which says that the law cannot bring righteousness, not that the law no longer exists. The law never could bring righteousness.
Lynn, the book I referred to is "Galatians Verse by Verse" by Henry Feyerabend. The title of the book is misleading, because it does not talk about each verse, just some of the verses. For example, it does not talk about the verse that says: "the law which came 430 years later" or the verse that says "it was added, because of transgression". It did get righteousness by faith right, though. I don't have the time, space, or memory to do a full book review, so if you want to know more, get a copy and read it. It is available from either "It is Written" or "Voice of Prophecy" by request. I don't remember which.
Jude, maybe a book review is more in your department? |
Bruce H
| | Posted on Monday, December 13, 1999 - 7:15 pm: | |
Darrell
Rom 4:14,15 For if those who are of the Law are
heirs, FAITH IS MADE VOID AND THE PROMISE MADE OF
NO EFFECT. because the law brings about wrath;
for where there is no Law there is no
transgression.
Darrell are you saying that the Law that I died to
can come back and Bite me again?
BH |
Darrell
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 14, 1999 - 8:36 am: | |
No, Bruce, I was only repeating what Paul said, that "Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes." Those who believe are not "of the law", because they do not trust in the law for righteousness. Rather they trust in the blood of Christ. |
Bruce H
| | Posted on Tuesday, December 14, 1999 - 4:39 pm: | |
Darrell
If you believe that the Law written on your Heart
is Jesus Christ (Holy Spirit), then why are you
asking us about the Sabbath. The scriptures say
1 John 2:27 27 But the anointing which you have
received from Him abides in you (Law written in
your Heart), and you do not need that anyone teach
you; but as the same anointing teaches you
concerning all things, and is true, and is not a
lie, and just as it has taught you, you will abide
in Him.
Proverbs 3: 5-6 5 Trust in the LORD with all
your heart, And lean not on your own
understanding;
6 In all your ways acknowledge Him, And He shall
direct your paths.
Darrell, Trust in God, not on us or any Church.
He will give you an answer about the Sabbath, and
His answer will be true. Seek and ye shall find.
BH
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Lynn W
| | Posted on Thursday, December 16, 1999 - 11:45 am: | |
Darrell, It comes as no surprise that an Adventist author (who calls his book "verse by verse") should conviently skip over 2 verses that put the law into proper perspective.
It's the same old game of deception: tell the people what we want them to know, knowing they will never look for the missing verses on their own. That's how Ellen White got away with misquoting scripture so often.
I wonder how many Adventists are aware of these verses? |
Lori
| | Posted on Monday, December 27, 1999 - 11:57 am: | |
I struggled to understand the meaning of the text in Hebrews 9:16, also. It says, .......I will put my laws in their hearts and I will write them on their minds." I found it hard to believe that the same laws that were abolished in the old covenant would be the ones established in the new.....why would the old one have been done away with in the first place!! I struggled with "what are the laws?" I found the answer to my question in 1 Cor. 2. The chapter ends with the statement "We have the mind of Christ".
Throughout Christs ministry on this earth, he spoke against the laws. He taught his disciples to love. Love, more often than not, has no set rules and regulations. Just like a child may need 15 minutes here, 30 seconds there, 1 hour here and 5 minutes there. Or half the day. They don't only need you the most one day out of every seven. They need you here and there all the time. That's how our relationship with Christ needs to be. Always available......to give whatever needs to be given at the time.
What bothers me the most about Adventism is the idea that they believe there is something that they can do to make salvation happen. Christs death on the cross was payment in full for our "ticket" to heaven. It wasn't a down payment or a partial payment with monthly (or rather, weekly) installments. It's marked paid! There is nothing due. There is nothing to be added. If someone buys a house for you and gives it to you clear and free, it's yours, not only did Christ "buy the house", he paid the taxes, insurance and maintenance fees (the Holy Spirit). He gave us the tools to repair it, along with an instruction manual for any troubleshooting. He paid it all! Showing up weekly to make sure the taxes and insurance payments have been paid, like they said, doesn't make it more yours! All it does is show your lack of faith in Jesus Christ and your faith in yourself that you can do something to make it happen.
Jesus paid it all. Open your heart to Him to be available to minister to whomever----and whenever He needs you. The greatest command is to love your neighbor. The laws in our hearts are the mind of Christ. And with the mind of Christ we will be walking vessels to meet the needs of those we come in contact with, just as he did when he was on earth. Our job is not to make sure that what he gave us really is ours, but to give to others the knowledge of the gift we received!
I hope that in some way this helps someone else that is struggling with leaving legalism behind. May God bless you with His glorious riches!!!!! |
Jude the Obscure
| | Posted on Monday, December 27, 1999 - 12:15 pm: | |
Lori,
How good and how pleasant it is to sit at your feet and listen to you. When I first started reading your post -- "I struggled to understand the meaning of the text in Hebrews 9:16" -- I was immediately thinking of ways to help you understand that text better. But, reading on, I see that YOU helped ME to understand it better. Thank you.
Jude |
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