|Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 1999 - 6:48 pm: || |
When you use the CD of Ellen White you may find
some discrepancies between the pages of the CD and
that of her writing's or books. Mark Martin's
Assistant told me this even though I have not
|Posted on Tuesday, October 12, 1999 - 9:16 pm: || |
Bruce, my transcript makes all corrections. Thanks. This was not written as a pat on my own back, but also a suggestion. If it's possible for anyone to do the same. I know it's a big commitment. But you could buy a dozen of the smaller books. Anything to get info into people's hands.
Linda, Till a few years ago there was a rather large church called the World-wide Church of God which was 7th day. They were full of strange doctrine and were commonly classed along with the cults such as LDS, JW, etc. Then a few years ago, the leadership began meeting with some Christians & learning the truth. Then they accepted the truth, rejected the lies (including the 7th day necessity), & taught their people. When it comes from leadership, people listen. The result was, the denomination as a whole received the truth of scripture from the top down.
This was probably the biggest miracle in modern Christianity - for an entire denomination to come clean at once. Unfortunately, it didn't get nearly the press it deserved. When they realized there was no more reason for their existance, the denomination all but disbanded. The individuals joined existing churches.
As expected, a few held on, though. I believe they dropped the name World-Wide COG. They are now COG 7th Day to distinguish them from the Sunday COG.
Now, having said all that, I recommend checking with CRI for the whole story. It would be great if someone could research it & fill in the details. Who did what, etc.
It sounds too far fetched to think it could ever happen to SDA, but we must not stop praying. No zealous individual will ever change that church. But if leaders could be reached...remember the 70s, when whole congregations left the church. It's always and only when the leadership sees the truth & is honest enough to admit & teach it.
|Posted on Wednesday, October 13, 1999 - 12:28 pm: || |
The topic is "how do I wittness to SDA people". Why not try to uplift Christ as our only hope? The same way you wittness to all people. In addition show from the Bible that Christ is our Righteousness, He is our Sabbath Rest, our everything.
|Posted on Saturday, October 16, 1999 - 4:41 pm: || |
Help! I just had an sda family member leave my house and I'm baffled. In a discussion about satan he told me "satan has as much power as God with the exception of being able to create." Well I told him that satan is under God's control and can only do what God allows (I know satan has rule of this world but isn't it only through God's allowing him and doesn't he answer to God?). Is this idea about satan common in sda teachings? (It's been awhile since I was sda and I guess some things I'm forgetting. Thank God!)Perhaps I'm off, but usually I'm good at detecting what's biblical and what's not. Do sda's really think satan is just as powerful as God? This statement sounded blasphemous to me? Any insight, ideas or suggestions for dealing with statements like this? I wasn't sure what else to say. It took me by surprise.
In Christ Alone!
|Posted on Sunday, October 17, 1999 - 10:53 am: || |
Susan: I have experienced this idea within SDAism, too. I remember the pastor of my former SDA church, holding his hands up, refering to God on the one hand, and Satan on the other, and stating "We call this the great controversy." The impression he created visually was that God and Satan are equals. This is definately not biblical. See Ezekial 28:11-19. This passage is a lament against the king of Tyre, but is also a description of Satan and God's power over him. God rules!
|Posted on Monday, October 18, 1999 - 7:27 am: || |
Sometimes I marvel at some of the strange beliefs I see attributed to the SDA church on this web site, things which I have never heard expressed by any Adventist, whether pastor or laymen. Sure, there are some kooks in the SDA church as well as out of it, but you only strain your credibility by implying that SDA's believe things they don't.
If you want to witness to family members or friends who are still Adventists, I would suggest that you stick to the gospel, as Paul said "I determined to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified." There is a shortage of SDA pastors who focus on Christ and the gospel, so you may find people to be hungry for the pure word of God. Putting down Ellen White or SDA doctrines will only turn many people off. What they need is the same thing anyone else needs: to see Jesus Christ.
|Posted on Monday, October 18, 1999 - 8:25 am: || |
Thanks, Darrell, for reminding us that the Gospel is central to everything. I completely agree.
This web site is a meeting place for former Adventists, so there will be discussion concerning what we came out of, as part of our recovery and moving on, in the light of the Gospel.
Adventists are welcome to take part in the discussion, understanding that taking part might be like the experience of an alcoholic visiting an Alcoholic's Anonymous meeting.
I know that in sharing with my (Adventist) family, I havn't always kept the Gospel central, and have instead argued, which is easy for me to do. For that I am truely sorry.