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Chyna
Posted on Sunday, March 25, 2001 - 10:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you've done your research you'd know that Walter Martin does not classify Adventism as a cult. But as Colleen has said, Adventism looks good on paper, but in reality it functions as a cult system. I posted this before, but once more with meaning for all those trying to reach loved ones in Adventism

To deny Adventism as a cult, is to deny the deathly psychological grip that holds Adventists hostage within SDAism.

notes I took on the introduction of

Kingdom of the Cults by Walter Martin

In General All Cults possess these traits:

1. Cultists are characterized by closed-mindedness, not interested in rational cognitive evaluation of facts the organizational structure interprets facts to cultist. Belief systems are in isolation. They are not to question.

2. Genuine antagonism on a personal level identity. Dislike of Christian message with the messenger who holds such opposing beliefs. Identification of opposing beliefs with the individual in the framework of antagonism leads the cultist almost always to reject individual as well as the belief (which is why it is extremely difficult to engage in general dialogue with cultists).

All cultists face in interpersonal contact the problem of hostility towards those who reject their interpretations. They are basically faced with: ěHow can this person (the Christian) be such an acceptable personality yet not share my (the cultists) theology. Then wonders how it is possible a Christian could be accepting of a person and yet not their beliefs.

The Christianís role is to be: unprejudiced, reasonably learned, and have a genuine love and concern for the welfare of the cultist

Christians that are able to dialogue with cultists if they can get the cultists to like them as a person and yet at the same time be able to discuss doctrine it will serve to break down some of the psychological barrier in talking to cultist, although it may not undercut their (the cultists) theology.

There is a real mental & emotional chain that inhibits cultist ability to discern truth from error.

3. Dogmatism and intolerance for any position but their own

4. Factor of isolation. Isolation is an outright denial of contradiction. Contrary facts denied. (My example) For example the Adventist Health Message preached by Ellen G. White, yet at the same time evidence that Ellen G. White ate pork. The peaceful coexistence of logical contradiction.

Important for dealing with Cultists:

1. Terminology! Define usage of terms and authority so that drastic unbiblical redefinitions can be exposed
2. Compare definitions with various context of verses
3. Define: interpretation, historical orthodoxy, the new birth, Atonement, context, exegesis, eternal judgement
4. The Christian must attempt to lead the cultist to a review of importance properly defining terms for all doctrine ESPECIALLY personal redemption from sin. Most cult systems define personal redemption from sin in unbiblical manner
5. Christian must present a clear testimony of oneís own regenerative experience in terminology which has been carefully clarified (the terminology).


1. The average cultist knows his own terminology very thoroughly
2. They tend to avoid the definitons of: Trinity, Deity of Christ, Atonement, bodily resurrection, process of salvation by grace, justification by faith (Cultist will redefine terms to fit orthodoxy unless forced to define terms explicitly)
3. Authority of scripture: Scripture is a powerful tool in dealing with cultists.
4. Familiarize yourself with terms of major cult systems to understand a cultist mind. Heavily emphasize issue of terminology and a proper definition of terms

Cultist is already ědeeply religiousî therefore are one of the most difficult persons to reach with the gospel of Christ. Cultist regard Christian as adversaries. They often respond with resentment, ěHow can the Christian dare to convert him?î They believe they are far beyond the Evangelical Christian with special revelations and superior experiences.

Fundamentally cultism is a form of self salvation with the emphasis on deliverance from sin through human effort. Christians should point out that aspect of self justification. Regeneration, resurrection, retribution, atonement are not part of cultist vocabulary or experience.

Cultist concept is that their group will emerge victorious. Christians should point out the true nature of man: fallen man.

It is necessary to find a common ground: Scriptural authority/nature of God and attributes. There needs to be a place of agreement starting point. As Christians we need to be friendly and we need to pray.

Cultists are under a cloak of delusion by Satan, spiritual blindness. Cults thrive on ignorance and confusion. Sound doctrine is the antidote. Christians need to learn to become immune from cult teachings by possessing sound theology. Evangelization of cultists is the task of the Christian church (the congregation).

I hope this speaks powerfully and effectively,

Chyna
Chyna
Posted on Sunday, March 25, 2001 - 10:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm laughing because I'm posting in my response to my own post, but what struck me already was

the organizational structure interprets facts to cultist.

isn't that what we've all discovered about Adventism that EGW/GC intreprets the bible for SDAs?

Belief systems are in isolation.

in so many of their doctrines. they stand alone on them without theological discourse or support of other Christian Scholars. SDAs have said to me, "we don't care what other Christians believe." that smacks of arrogance to me (ah, the arrogance of being in a cult, we have all the truth, and all the answers, don't bother me with your pesky beliefs that you claim stem from Scripture alone, you can't possibly be interpreting it correctly).

They are not to question.

my ex was extremely mad at me for reading/researching Adventism. and I told him, "isn't it better to get both side of the story and then go from there?" of course not. questioning is discouraged, to the point of disfellowshipping.

ruminations, Chyna
Lori
Posted on Monday, March 26, 2001 - 6:36 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I had difficulty in calling Adventism a cult, even when I discovered the errors.

As an Adventist, I denied it completely. I just classified it as "they don't understand what Adventist really believe". To me, at that time, the term cult denoted something that was outside of the Christian realm.

Now, I am very comfortable with refering to and identifying the Adventist church as a "Christian Cult". They are a group of Christians that function under cultic control and manipulation of those who are members.
Sherry2
Posted on Monday, March 26, 2001 - 7:05 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And there are many other Christian cults out there as well...The Brethren, Word of Life here in MI which stresses to a fault sinless living, some Pentecostals (not all), and the list goes on. It is crazy how many cults there are. What a sad day and age we live in I tell ya!
Jtree
Posted on Thursday, March 29, 2001 - 7:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi all, I just launched a Yahoo Club, I ask anyone and everyone from FAF to join, I call it "Former Adventist Online".

"Christian Issues for Seventh Day Adventist"

http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/formeradventistonline


This is my WITNESS to Adventist
Lynnw
Posted on Friday, November 02, 2001 - 1:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Chyna, I just found your post on traits of a cult according to Kingdom of the Cults. What perfect timing. I've loaned out my copy of KOTC so I wasn't able to look up what you wrote back there on 3-25. I recently had a conversation with a friend who is offended that I should use the word cult. His philosophy is, if Hank Hannegraff doesn't call them a cult, then they're not a cult - end of discussion. And it seems HH is getting more and more reluctant to call any group a cult. The opinions of CRI are all that matter to my friend. Funny thing though, Walter Martin who founded CRI, defined cults himself and didn't hesitate to use the term freely. He was often referred to as a "cult-watcher."
Lydell
Posted on Saturday, November 03, 2001 - 5:30 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Actually Hank Hannegraff seems to be increasingly attacking other Christians with whom he doesn't agree. According to him charismatics are out and SDA's as okay. There's something very wrong with that picture!
Madelle
Posted on Saturday, November 03, 2001 - 2:45 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi, it's Madelle -- back from weeks of being busy. Was supposed to fly to TX on 9/11 to bring my mother home with me and then go with her to Alaska, but . . . well, everyone knows how that went. But we went anyway -- just a little late.

Now about this cult business. I was shocked some years ago to hear that the pastor of the Sunday-keeping church that rented our local SDA church for Sunday services told his church members that SDAs were a cult. Didn't see how they could think that of us.

Ah, but now I see it very clearly. Psychologically it's a cult. Doctrinally it's a cult. Sociologically it's a cult. Just like ducks. "If it looks like a cult, walks like a cult -- it's a cult."
Richardhardison
Posted on Saturday, November 03, 2001 - 7:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lydell is cetainly correct about Hanegraff, alas. he has made CRI something of a laughing stock among the cults.

Having said that I have to say that Martin's research on the SDA was pretty solid. martin read practically everything Ellen White wrote and not even the SDA would challenge him when he made a statement on something EGW wrote about. It was very ironic that a Non-SDA was the foremost authority on EGW's writings. Martin was also, theologically, part of a branch of Christianity that would call anyone disagreeing with them a heretic (Spurgeon for instance called John Wesley a heretic from his pulpit), so it was highly significant that a Calvinist would refuse to call the SDA a cult.

The people I know in the SDA aren't caught up in a lot of what y'all write about. They are much like the local Methodist Church I started attending recently in both teaching content and conduct. Their soteriology is identical to the Armenian branch of Christianity and their attitude on sanctification the same as well.

To state categorically that an entire denomination is a "cult" is a dangerous act. I've been in Baptist Churches I would classify as cults, just I've been in SDA Churches that are nothing like those described here. Martin didn't make his judgement in a theological vacuum, he did serious homework before writing what he did and he never ceased criticism of the SDA about the screwy things they did and taught.

Richard L. Hardison
Jtree
Posted on Sunday, November 04, 2001 - 6:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Richard I would like to address something about Baptist. You may have been in "Baptist" churches that seem cultic, but you know what? There are cultic groups that take on even the name "Baptist", which are not "Baptist" at all.

Then there is Baptist church groups that are Christian. I for one come from this group.

For we believe the Church is the body of which Christ is the head and all who believe in Him are members (Eph 1:22-23; Rom 12:4-5).
Colleentinker
Posted on Monday, November 05, 2001 - 4:25 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just a word about classifying a church as a cult. I believe that organizations--churches or otherwise--can be cultic, and can manipulate members in cultic ways. These cultic tendencies may not spring from an instrinsic "cultishness" in the organization but rather from the spiritual compromises of the leaders in charge.

Adventism, however, is not just locally "cultic". It is built on deception. It was founded on doctrines designed to explain a misinterpretation of scripture, and from its inception, the church's founders used EG White's visions to corroborate their doctrinal devices. As Angel Rodgriguez from the GC said at the "Worker's Meeting" in the North Pacific Union in 1997 or 98 (I can't remember which year; it was the year they had a session in which they discussed Ratzlaff's book Cultic Doctrine), without the investigative judgment we would not have the Seventh-day Adventist church.

They never acknowledged their error in setting dates. Instead, they justified it by inventing an unbiblical explanation for the date. Further, they established EGW as a prophetic voice, allowing their followers to believe they would lose salvation if they ignored her. All of Adventism's distinctive doctrines have grown out of their design to convince their members that they are special, set apart, the "remenant". They have allowed their members to believe that they would be disobeying God to reject their core beliefs, especially the observance of the 7th day Sabbath. They have allowed their members to believe that their observance of Sabbath and dietary laws, etc., is a fruit of a saved life--indeed, fruit that must be present if an Adventist is to be saved.

They exclude themselves from the Body of Christ and consider themselves to be the only true church. They DO (in spite of protestations to the contrary) shun or otherwise pull away from those who leave their ranks and find Jesus. They are more comfortable with one of their number who backslides into unbelief than they are one who discovers Jesus is his or her Savior and leaves Adventism to worship in freedom and in truth.

In short, Adventism was not founded on the scriptures. It was founded on a lie, and their entire history has been spent attempting to hide the lie and appear "mainstream". The fact remains: Adventism is not based on the Bible alone. It is based on another gospel (see Galatians), on the teachings of man. It is not a true Christian religion; it is a cult.

While it is true that many Adventists do find Jesus, I believe that as those people say Yes to truth as God reveals it, ultimately God leads them away from the SDA church. Integrity does not allow people to stay forever in a spiritually compromised situation, rationalizing the deception of Adventism with the truth of the finished work of Jesus and the New Covenant.

I praise God for calling us and loving us and unfolding reality and His work before us as we walk by faith.

Colleen
Sabra
Posted on Monday, November 05, 2001 - 5:40 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Amen Colleen! Praise the Lord we can walk as children of the light! I am so thankful!!
Sabra
Doug222
Posted on Monday, November 05, 2001 - 6:12 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Let me add my Amen to that Colleen! I couldn't have said it better myself. Its as though you put the secret thoughts of my mind to words. God is great isn't He?

In His Grace

Doug
Sammi
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2001 - 3:30 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And another Amen! Sammi (Carol)
Nate
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2001 - 8:15 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I will attest that even coming from one of Adventism's best and most grace oriented churches, where we taught grace every week, when push came to shove, the majority of the people there were extreemely uncomfortable with any stance that took Sabbath out of the forefront and made it optional from a salvation perspective.

While there are many from my former church who are gracious with my wife and me, and who truly honor our journey in Christ, for every one of them, there are several others that consider us deceived, or backslidden, or rebellious, because we left the Adventist church. (for the sake of those who do not know our story, look it up in the story section under Greg and Paula Taylor)
There have been those who have gone to great lengths to discredit us. Many of these dear people truly believe that if one leaves the Sabbath, they will be lost. There have been some so bold as to tell us that our kids will go to hell with us.

I will be the first to say that not all SDA's are cultish. I know many dear Christian brothers and sisters in the SDA church. But most of these have to one degree or another fudged on the official stance of the church, however, to make room for their version of truth. Most of these are fairly soft on the writings of E.G. White. They pretty much stick with books like "The Desire of Ages" and "Steps to Christ". They stay fairly clear of the portions that are troublesome and exclusive. But this is a bit of a cop out in my opinion. The official stance of the church is one that states that they (SDA's) are the Remnant Church of bible prophecy. This means to Adventists that all others churches constitute Babylon and therefore must repent of their Sabbath breaking by the time of the end and become Sabbathkeepers to be part of the Remnant. Those who refuse to do so will receive the "Mark of the Beast" and be eternally lost. While they do make allowances for those who have not heard the "truth" of the Sabbath, once the message has been proclaimed and heard, those who do not start keeping the Sabbath before Christ comes, will be lost. As I write, there is an "Evangelistic Crusade" going on less than four miles from my house that is teaching just what I stated above. Any honest Adventist must admit that this is the truth.

So while I hate labels, and I would not call all Adventists cultish my any means, I must say that the official church teaching, the evangelistic approach, and the actual practice of the majority of the membership does fit the description.

My prayer is that Adventist leaders and parishioners around the world will truly face Biblical facts and the truth of their heritage, and in honesty and humility let the truth lead them into openness and honesty. This could be a whole new day for the SDA church. The world would respect such authenticity, and I believe the good things the system could offer the christian community and the world at large would be a tremendous blessing to all.

We pray Daily for just such a revival in Adventism.

In Christ,

Greg
Richardhardison
Posted on Tuesday, November 06, 2001 - 5:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jtree, don't be so sensitive. Of course there are Christians who call themselves Baptist. There are those who show many of the signs of cults as well. This is a function of human nature.

Greg has said it quite well. The group of SDA who are friends with me would not be surprised to find themselves excluded and their Church building closed to them. It all boils down to who is ascendent at the moment.

Richard L. Hardison
Sherry2
Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2001 - 11:31 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

FYI...this just got e-mailed to me from an SDA. Supposedly something that has been encouraged to e-mail to all Adventist friends....thought it might be a good read with what we are discussing here.

Here it is and it is a "". "> Dear Friends:

We are living through unprecedented times that present unprecedented
opportunities and unprecedented perils for religious liberty. We need to be at our most vigilant at this time - prepared to act to
preserve freedom.

Adventists have a God-given message for troubled times. An integral part of this message is our stand for religious liberty. Ellen White stated "we are not doing the will of God if we sit in quietude,doing nothing to preserve liberty of conscience." She also called on us to press the front in Washington.

We at the GC Office of Legislative Affairs are working to ensure that all Adventists are well informed about developments in Washington and
understand important legal and legislative events. For example, we have just added a new material to the Current Issues & Analysis section
of our web page that covers the Supreme Court's decision finding that Sunday laws do not violate the U.S. Constitution. In addition, our main page is updated regularly with news.
Unfortunately, many Adventists are unaware of our efforts and thus remain in the dark about important legal and legislative developments.
I am therefore writing to you to request that you forward this e-mail to every Adventist you know, to invite them to visit our web site and sign up to receive e-mail updates on breaking religious liberty news from Washington as it occurs. The web site address is: http://ola.adventist.org http://ola.adventist.org Each page on the website has a box at the bottom in which you can
enter your e-ma! il address to sign up for updates. In addition, the second button on the left hand side of the introductory page will take
you to a page where you can sign up for e-mail updates. If you receive this e-mail from a friend, please forward it on to your Adventist friends. By forwarding this message on, you are
providing a vital link in our efforts to ensure that all Adventists have the latest religious liberty news from Washington.


The price of freedom is indeed eternal vigilance. This is our opportunity to promote that vigilance, and in the process monitor
prophetic fulfillments as they occur.
Thank you for taking a moment to send this message to your Adventist friends.

May God bless you,

James Standish
Director of Legislative Affairs
General Conference of the Seventh-day Adventist Church"
> > http://ola.adventist.org <http://ola.adventist.org> >
>
Sherry2
Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2001 - 11:34 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It seems as SDA's we were more concerned about those darn Sunday laws then about seeing people come to Jesus Christ. And even now it continues. Look how many times the letter repeated send to your Adventist friends. Hey if religious liberty is so important, why not the Baptist friends, or Lutheran friends or what not? Exclusivity as well.

My two cents....
Trippllb
Posted on Wednesday, November 07, 2001 - 2:23 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is really long, but I think that it is worth the read. It is Dr. Samuele Bacchiocchi's take on Greg and Paula Taylors "An Open Letter to Friends and Family". I wanted to just post the link to his website here so you could read for yourself, but it appears as if it hasn't been linked yet. Let me apologize in advance for posting this a message this long. I was thinking I may see some traffic here about it, but since I haven't seen anything, maybe you don't subscribe to his newsletters and it may be of interest to you.

My honest opinion is that it is focuses on attacking the character of a fellow Christian and avoids a strong attack on the issues. He uses personal attack, character assumptions, and sweeping generalizations to try and make his point. I would love to see an honest Christian-like approach to answering Greg's points, but sadly, Dr. B is all we have to look to for now.

Anyway guys, here it is. Just a quick personal word...Greg, you have truly inspired me and watching your journey here on FAF helped me. Do not let the words of this man affect your focus on the reason you left. Keep your eyes on the cross and your ear on the spirit. Your clear and simple approach to the gospel helped to remind me what grace truly is.

(NOTE: This has been edited to remove his advertisements, sales pitches, Christmas specials and personal notes on his lectures around the country. None of the context has been removed at all.)
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THE LATEST ATTACK AGAINST THE SABBATH

In the last newsletter I promised to respond to the 40 pages document entitled "An Open Letter to Our Friends and Family," written by Pastor Greg Taylor, who served for the past 8 years until July 2001 as the senior pastor of the Foster Memorial SDA Church in Asheville, NC. In this lengthy essay which is circulating far and wide around the world, Pastor Taylor sets forth his reasons for rejecting distinctive Adventist beliefs, especially the Sabbath.

To do justice to the many issues raised by Pastor Taylor, I decided to divide my response in three parts, each of which will be posted in a separate newsletter. This newsletter evaluates the religious pilgrimage of Pastor Taylor, focusing especially on some of his characterizations of the Sabbath, Ellen White, Willow Creek, and Adventism in general. The next two newsletter will examine specifically Pastor Taylor's attempts to negate the continuity and validity of the Sabbath.

The reason for devoting three newsletters to a document which some may view of relative importance, is because during the past five
years over 20 former Adventist pastors and Bible teachers have embraced the same "New Covenant Theology." This theology, which rejects the Sabbath as an Old Covenant institution which is no longer binding upon Christians today, has already influenced over 5000 former Adventists to leave the church.

Besides those who have already left the Adventist church, there are many others who are contemplating to do the same thing, if they cannot find satisfactory answers to the anti-Sabbath arguments presented by former Adventists like Pastor Taylor. Practically every day I receive email messages from distressed Adventists, urging me to answer the arguments against the Sabbath and other Adventist beliefs
that are now troubling them. The awareness of the extent of the problem, has motivated me to take time in my busy schedule to prepare a response to the latest attack against the Sabbath. It is my
fervent hope and prayer that this service will help those who are sincerely seeking to know and do the revealed will of God.


A NEW ATTACK AGAINST THE SABBATH - Part 1
Samuele Bacchiocchi, Ph. D.,
Retired Professor of Theology, Andrews University

During the past few weeks several subscribers to our ENDTIME ISSUES NEWSLETTER have emailed me a copy of Greg and Paula Taylor's confessional essay entitled "An Open Letter to Our Friends and
Family." In this lengthy document of about 40 pages, Pastor Taylor shares the spiritual pilgrimage which eventually led him and his wife
to reject fundamental Adventist beliefs especially the Sabbath), and to resign from the Foster Memorial SDA Church (about 500 members), in Asheville, NC, where Pastor Taylor has served as senior pastor for the past 8 years.

This document has been circulating widely across the USA and overseas. In fact several readers have urged me to respond to this "Open Letter," especially because it focuses primarily on the reasons the Pastor Taylor rejected the Sabbath as binding upon Christians today. He claims to have providentially discovered that in the New Testament the Sabbath is fulfilled in Christ, our Sabbath rest, and consequently and it "no longer binding on Christians."

At first I hesitated to undertake this assignment, since I have examined at considerable length the same anti-Sabbath arguments in my book THE SABBATH UNDER CROSSFIRE. In many ways the "Open Letter" recycles in a simplified and personalized way, Dale Ratzlaff's arguments against the Sabbath presented in his book THE
SABBATH IN CRISIS. Like the Pastor Taylor, Ratzlaff served the Adventist church for 15 years, first as Bible teacher at Monterey Bay
Academy and then as a Pastor in Southern California. Having spent a year of my life preparing a lengthy refutation of Ratzlaff's
irrational methodology and conclusions, I did not feel that it was necessary for me to pay twice for a dead horse.

What eventually persuaded me to undertake this assignment, is the plea from several Adventists who have been badly shaken by this "Open Letter." Being a simple and sincere confessional story, the "Open Letter" has an enormous appeal to uncritical minds. In fact, some told me that they are troubled and confused by Pastor Taylor's
anti-Sabbath arguments. They are hoping that my response will clear away the uncertainties that have risen in their mind. It would be presumptuous on my part to think that this response will clear the air and fully restore the confidence in the Sabbath of everyone. Ultimately what convinces people of Bible truths, in not merely human logic, but the working of the Holy Spirit.

Surprisingly Pastor Taylor's resignation from the Foster Memorial SDA Church, has not affected the church attendance. This has not been the case in other Adventist churches where a large number of
members left the church together with their pastors, and established new independent Sundaykeeping congregations. Two members of the
Foster Memorial SDA church informed me that the attendance has slightly increased since Pastor Taylor left on July 2001. The reason given is that many church members who received the "Open Letter," went back to their Bibles to reexamine for themselves the very Adventist doctrines challenged by Pastor Taylor. The outcome of this
fresh investigation has been a strengthening of their faith in the Adventist message and a slight increase in church attendance.

For the sake of clarity, my response to the "Open Letter," is divided into two parts, according to the twofold division of the document itself. The first part evaluates the religious pilgrimage of
Pastor Taylor, focusing especially on some of his characterizations of the Sabbath, Ellen White, and Adventism in general. This newsletter responds exclusively to the first part of the "Open Letter."

The next two newsletters will examine what the "Open Letter" calls "The Biblical Journey." This is the most important part of the document, because it presents the reasons Pastor Taylor has rejected the Sabbath. I am devoting the next two newsletters to an examination of Pastor Taylor anti-Sabbath arguments, because these are the
popular arguments used to negate the continuity and validity of the Sabbath. I trust that this service will be helpful to those who wish to be better prepared to share the Sabbath truth with people of other faiths.

Pastor Taylor believes that the Lord opened their eyes to the real meaning of certain NT texts, which in their view negate the continuity of the Sabbath for Christians. Pastor Taylor expresses his excitement with exclamations such as these: "I could hardly believe my eyes as I read this scripture . . .I must admit that this
discovery affected me deeply . . . The whole study hit me so hard that I would wake up in the middle of the night and call upon the Lord."

Did Pastor Taylor really discover "new light" which negates the creational and permanent nature of the Sabbath? Or did he grossly misinterpret the texts in question? The answer to these questions will become clear as we examine his methodology and conclusions in the next two newsletters. I have asked the Lord to
give me the grace and wisdom to examine this lengthy essay with respect and objectivity. The ultimate goal is not to win an argument, but to help sincere people determine if the principle and practice of Sabbathkeeping is still relevant for our Christian life today.

PART 1
THE PERSONAL JOURNEY

In the first part of his "Open Letter" Pastor Taylor relates his personal journey which I will attempt to summarize briefly, commenting especially on his characterizations of the Sabbath, Willow Creek, Ellen White, and the Adventist Church. The major analysis of
Pastor Taylor's arguments will be done in the next two newsletters. My intent is not to defame Pastor Taylor in any way, but rather to examine the validity of his allegations against the Adventist Church and his reasons for rejecting the Sabbath.

The impression I received from reading the "Open Letter," is that Pastor Taylor is an honest and sincere man who wants to do what he believes to be right. The fact the he turned down the offer of the Carolina Conference to go back to Andrews University Theological Seminary for a year at full salary in order to clarify his thinking,
suggests to me that he is a man of conviction. Unfortunately, he appears to be intellectually unstable, being easily swayed by new teachings, programs, and people. This conclusion appears inevitable from reading his religious journey where he describes the fluctuations that occurred in this theological positions as a result of new developments inside or outside the church.

Pastor Taylor was born and raised in a legalistic Adventist home that "strongly followed the teachings of E. G. White." He says: " I knew a lot about the law, but little about grace." The
legalistic upbringing apparently influenced his rebellious attitude. On his senior Academy year he was "kicked out" from school and for the next four years he almost destroyed his life with "addiction to drugs and alcohol." In his desperate condition Pastor Taylor felt the call of God to become a Christian. Eventually he "checked into a Christian [Adventist] recovery center called the Bridge Fellowship in Kentucky." Seven months later he went to study at Southern Adventist University where he became "an Adventist by conviction" and was
rebaptized.

By the time he was a college senior majoring in education, the local conference called him to serve as an intern for one year at a local church. At that time some theological crises hit the church when Desmond Ford attacked the doctrine of the investigative judgment and Walter Rea accused Ellen White of plagiarism. The impact of these developments were "devastating" for Pastor Taylor, especially since his senior pastor left the SDA church. He writes: "I went to the
seminary wondering if I was an Adventist."

Reading Pastor Taylor's spiritual journey, one senses that he has been easily influenced and swayed by people and events. It seems that every major event that he mentions, had an impact on his beliefs. Personally I went through the same theological crises that hit the Adventist church, but none of them shook my confidence in the
Biblical soundness of the Adventist message. It appears that Pastor Taylor may suffer from mental and emotional instability, which makes him easily victim of questionable teachings.

THE SEMINARY EXPERIENCE AND THE EARLY MINISTRY

Pastor Taylor describes his experience at the Theological Seminary in positive terms. The classes he took from Ivan Blazen, Raoul Dederen, and Hans LaRondelle brought a degree of reassurance to his mind. Unfortunately' however, his Seminary experience was early marred by the break up of his marriage. His wife of two years left him during the first quarter. Pastor Taylor writes: "When she left just before the midterms of the winter quarter, my main focus for the
next year and a half was to survive."

This change in focus from seminary education to personal survival, may have weakened his seminary training, making it difficult for him to learn the proper methods of biblical interpretation. This may explain, at least in part, the reason for Pastor Taylor's gross misinterpretation of those Bible texts related to the Sabbath.

At Andrews he met a communication student Paula Wesner whom he married in March 1985 after leaving Andrews. They pastored a couple of district churches where they conducted evangelistic meetings. Pastor Taylor makes some perceptive comments regarding the deficiencies he found in the traditional evangelistic methods: "I became increasingly uncomfortable with the traditional evangelistic methods, which focused on last-day events and prophetic interpretation. I felt my calling was to reach people with the Gospel of Jesus Christ, to lead them to Him as their Savior, and help them
to live in relationship with Him. What I encountered mostly in the traditional approach was targeted at people already in a church
somewhere. The sessions only had one or two nights dedicated to the Gospel, and the rest to our distinctive doctrines."

A Deficiency of Traditional Evangelism. Pastor Taylor's comments about the doctrinal and prophetic emphasis of traditional evangelistic preaching, deserves serious considerations. Convincing people of the validity of our Adventist doctrines and prophetic interpretations, is and must remain a very important goal of our evangelistic preaching. But equally important is to help people understand how to translate these new doctrines into their daily life. In other words, we need to help people experience the transforming power of the Gospel in their own lives.

A reason for the popularity of my weekend seminars, is their attempt to help people understand HOW to experience mental, physical, and spiritual renewal on the Sabbath; HOW to live in the joyful expectancy of a soon-coming Savior. Countless times people have told me: "I have been an Adventist for 10, 20, or 30 years, but this is the first time I understood how to make the Sabbath a delightful and joyful experience; a celebration of God's creative and redemptive love."

There is an urgent need to help Adventists experience more fully the existential benefits of the Adventist message. If people accept the Adventist beliefs as a necessary requirement for
salvation, without enjoying their benefits in their daily lives, then the Adventist message becomes for them an alienating imposition.
They will grudgingly hold to the Adventist doctrines as if they were a bitter medicine needed to get well. Such a negative attitude
predisposes people to accept the so-called New Covenant Theology, promoted by former Adventists like Taylor, because it offers them a justification for rejecting what they have never enjoyed in the first place.

Eventually Pastor Taylor accepted a call to serve as full time youth pastor at the Kettering SDA Church, in Ohio. He describes his experience at Kettering as rewarding but taxing. In fact, after serving there for six and a half years, in 1993 the Pastor Taylors gladly accepted a call to minister at the Foster Memorial SDA Church, in Asheville, North Carolina.

EXPERIMENTING WITH THE WILLOW CREEK METHODS

At the time the Pastor Taylors arrived in Asheville, the Foster Memorial SDA church was moving to a more contemporary style of worship by "trying methods used by the Willow Creek Community Church in Chicago." The goal was to reach the unchurched people in the community. During the eight years of his pastorate in Asheville, Pastor Taylor and some of his leading church members "visited Willow Creek for numerous training events." In fact, the local head elder,
William Bryan, informed me in a telephone onversations that he and other local church leaders went nine times to Willow Creek to attend
their training seminars.

Pastor Taylor describes his visits to Willow Creek with these words: "The worship times were like a little taste of heaven for us. I remember us discussing how this movement of God was so much more vibrant than anything we had ever experienced in Adventism." Impressed by the Willow Creek experience, Pastor Taylor tried hard to implement its methods to reach the unchurched. According to his testimony, the initial results were quite encouraging as the average church attendance grew from "120 before the transition to . . . a vibrant congregation of 500 members."

These figures are not quite correct. Elder Ken Coonley, President of the Carolina Conference, informed me that in 1993 when Pastor Taylor arrived at the Foster Memorial SDA church, its
membership in the books stood at 419, and when he left on July 2001, it was 492, with an average church attendance of about 300 members. This means that the actual numerical growth during the eight years of his pastorate was less than 100 members. The contemporary worship style with a band often playing rocky type of music, hardly
contributed to a significant church growth.

THE SABBATH: A STUMBLING BLOCK TO REACH THE UNCHURCHED

Pastor Taylor himself acknowledges that the new contemporary worship style did not reach the unchurched people in the community, as he had anticipated. Most of the people they were reaching were former Adventists. This fact became a cause of serious concern. He wanted to find out the reasons. The answer came from an evaluation conducted by Carl George, an outreach and church growth specialist, in another Adventist church which faced a similar stagnation problem.

Pastor Taylor reports that "Carl George's assessment was that they could not break into the unchurched community because of the Sabbath issues. This was too great a barrier for most people not brought up or married into Adventism. For pastors who are called to reach people for Jesus, this seemed problematic. We must reach the
world yet we are encountering a barrier that is a part of the very structure of Adventism."

When Pastor Taylor discovered that the Sabbath "constitutes a stumbling block" to reach the unchurched, he began to re-examine the
validity of the Sabbath for today. During a summer sabbatical the Pastor Taylors spent their time visiting both Adventist and Sunday churches. He describes their experience with these words: "We were struck with the lack of spiritual vitality in all of the Adventist
churches we visited. While the people were sincere, there was such a dearth of life, it was depressing. It was almost as if they were just
going through the motions of 'doing church.' The Sunday churches were the other way around. With the exception of one church we visited, all of them had such life and joy that it was contagious. We would rejoice when we were in these churches of various denominations or independent communities. When we would visit the SDA churches, we would get so sad and depressed. I remember praying, 'Why, Lord, if the Sabbath is so significant and part of your moral law that is
binding on all Christians, why are you clearly blessing other churches, while the Adventist churches are, at best, maintaining?'"

Pastor Taylor's characterization of Adventist churches as lacking "spiritual vitality" in contrast to Sunday churches allegedly full of "life and joy," is contradicted by my personal experience. I preach every single Sabbath in vibrant and happy Adventist congregations across the USA and overseas. They sing joyfully unto the Lord, praising Him for His creative and redemptive love. Perhaps Pastor Taylor associates the "spiritual vibrancy" of
some Sunday churches with the physical stimulation provided by the beat type of worship music which causes people to shout, swing and
dance. If that is the case, then he needs to remember that the church is not a place of entertainment. The worship service is to elevate
people spiritually, not to stimulate them physically.

The spiritual vibrancy of a congregation can hardly be measured by the beat music or the shouting that takes places during the worship service of some Sundaykeping churches. When I see popular charismatic preachers, like Rev. Parsley preaching like a circus clown, in crusades attended by thousands of people, I feel
embarrassed for the way he profanes the Gospel. But I do have great respect and admiration for preachers like Dr. James Kennedy of Coral
Gables, Florida, who expand the Word of God with perceptive insights in a worship setting of reverence and solemnity. The fact that Dr.
Kennedy's large congregation does not sing beat music and shouts "Hallelujah" like that of Rev. Parsley, does not means that it lacks "spiritual vitality."

Ultimately the spiritual vitality of a congregation is reflected in the victorious daily life of its members, Do the members live a clean lifestyle, abstaining from alcohol, drugs, and
intemperate practices? Do they treat their family members with respect? Do they honor their marriage vows of faithfulness till death
shall part them? Are they committed to bring up their children in the fear and love of God? Do they dress modestly, decently and with
reverence, especially in God's sanctuary? Do they worship God in the beauty of holiness with appropriate sacred music? These are some of
the biblical criteria to determine the spiritual vibrancy of a congregation. A visiting observer can hardly establish by the external appearance alone, whether or not its members are spiritually
vibrant.

THE INFLUENCE OF ANTI-SABBATH LITERATURE

At the time when Pastor Taylor began questioning the Sabbath, he received anti-Sabbath literature from some friends who had left the SDA ministry and established Sundaykeeping congregations. The
study of this literature had a decisive impact on him, which he describes with these words: "I was amazed to discover that the New Testament does not teach Sabbath the way I thought it did. I learned from Colossians 2:16-17, Galatians 4:10, Romans 14:5-6, and Hebrews 3-4, that Sabbath was an institution that pointed forward to Jesus
and therefore was no longer binding on Christians. The New Testament points to a Person (Jesus) as the true Sabbath, not a day. I
discovered that the Law is reinterpreted, in Christ, for all believers. The New Testament makes very clear which portions of the
Law have carried over in Christ and which have not. Finally, I found that the day of worship is NOT the final test of loyalty to God,
rather the test is a full surrender to Jesus Christ sealed by the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. I realize that this understanding
needs further development, so I have included a brief survey of my discovery process in the appendix."

Pastor Taylor's new understanding of the Sabbath as fulfilled in Christ, rests on a blatant misinterpretation of the texts he cites. His methodology and conclusions will be examined in the next two newsletters. At this point it suffices to note that the Pastor Taylor has come to believe that though resting on the Sabbath has
some social, physical, and spiritual merits, "to insist that it always be on Saturday, or that it is mandated by scripture, is adding to the Word of God an unnecessary requirement for new believers. It constitutes a stumbling block that is not necessary. It gets in the way of many coming to Jesus. We believe that we should remove all obstacles from the path of the true seeker except the scandal of the cross."

What is "the scandal of the Cross" for Pastor Taylor? Presumably for him it is primarily the "doing and dying" of Jesus on the Cross. But is this ALL what people need to know about the
Gospel? This restricted view of the Cross as the payment for our past sins through Christ's atoning sacrifice, ignores the triumph of
the Cross manifested in a life of obedience. Paul affirms this truth eloquently in Romans 8:3-4, saying: "For God has done what the law, weakened by the flesh, could not do by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh, in order that the just requirements of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not according to the flesh but according to the Spirit." The Good Newsof the Gospel is that Christ's atoning death has not
only paid for the penalty of our sins, but also gives us the power to overcome sin and to live according to the 'just requirements of the
law."

IS THE SABBATH A STUMBLING BLOCK TO REACH THE UNCHURCHED?

The charge that the Sabbath is "a stumbling block" that "gets in the way of many coming to Christ," is a serious accusation levelled against the Lord of the Sabbath Himself. This accusation
ignores that the Sabbath is Christ's gracious invitation to come to Him to find rest in Him. Through the Sabbath Christ invites us to
stop our work, so that He can work in us more fully and freely. This is the message of Hebrews 4:10, which speaking of the Sabbath, says: "Anyone who enters God's rest also rest from his own work, just as God did from His" (NIV). Simply stated, we rest from our work on the seventh day in order to enter into God's rest.

The Sabbath has always been "a stumbling block" for many people, but the reason is to be found not in the nature of the commandment itself, but in the condition of the human heart. Those
who wish to spend the Sabbath time seeking for pleasure and profit, rather than for the peace and presence of God, obviously find the day
a stumbling block. But Jesus never taught to do away with His commandments, if they proved to be a stumbling block to a marketing oriented church growth. Instead He said: "If you love me, keep my
commandments" (John 14:10).

Christ spent much of His public ministry teaching people how to keep the Sabbath, not as rules to obey, but people to love. More coverage is given in the Gospels to the Sabbath teachings and
healings of Jesus than to any other aspects of His ministry. The reason is that Jesus believed that proper Sabbathkeeping is important to the spiritual growth of His followers.

The self-centeredness of the human heart largely explains why the Sabbath commandment has been under the constant crossfire of controversy, Over 3000 treatises disputing the Sabbath have been published since the Reformation. There has been no major controversy over the other 9 commandments of the Decalogue. Why? Most likely
because the Sabbath touches us in our intimacy more deeply than any other commandment. It summons us to consecrate the 24 hours of the
seventh day to God. Most people are very touchy about their time. They want to use their Sabbath time to pursue their own interests.

The Sabbath is a stumbling block for many, because it challenges us to offer to God not lip-service by going to church for one hour on Sunday morning or on Saturday afternoon, but the service
of our total being by giving priority to God in our thinking and living during the 24 hours of the seventh day.

An article entitled "Saturday Night Live at Church," published in the Sunday magazine of the Lord's Day Alliance of the USA, indicates that about 10,000 American Protestant churches are now
following the examples of Catholic Churches by anticipating the first Sunday service to Saturday afternoon. One of the churches mentioned is the Willow Creek Community Church, which "features two services on Saturday night."

The Saturday evening services are especially popular with those who do not feel like getting out of bed on Sunday morning. They prefer to enjoy the sanctuary of their bed rather than that of the church. The reduction of the principle of Sabbathkeeping to an hour of church attendance, either on Sunday or Saturday afternoon,
makes the Sabbath less of a stumbling block for those who are more interested in holidays, than in a Holy Day. But this reduction clearly violate the essence of the Sabbath commandment which consists in the consecration of the 24 hours of the seventh day unto the Lord.

SUNDAY SERVICES IN SOME ADVENTIST CHURCHES

Few Adventist pastors, who like Pastor Taylor find the Sabbath a stumbling block to reach the unchurched, are experimenting with regular Sunday morning worship service, in addition to that of
the Sabbath. During the past few months I have received reports from different parts of North America about SDA churches that are adopting
Sunday worship service to facilitate the outreach to their communities. I have been repeatedly asked to comment about this practice.

In my view there is nothing wrong with holding meetings on Sunday as part of a temporary outreach endeavor, like an evangelistic campaign or various types of seminars. The problem
arises when Sunday worship services become a regular feature of an Adventist church. The predictable result is that gradually the Sunday
morning service will displace and replace the Sabbath service. This is the lesson of history.

As a church historian, I am reminded that Sunday worship began, especially in the Eastern part of the Roman Empire, as an addition to Sabbath worship. Gradually, Sunday worship replaced
completely the Sabbath worship, especially since it was more convenient to go to church on Sunday-the day that was made a civil holiday by Constantine in A. D. 321.

History often repeats itself. The current promotion of Sunday worship by few Adventist churches in addition to Sabbath worship, is
no exception. An example is recent adoption of Sunday worship by several former Adventist pastors and Bible teachers, who have embraced the so-called "New Covenant Theology," these men initially promoted the introduction of Sunday worship in addition to Sabbath worship. But it was not long before they moved their church services exclusively to Sunday. I predicted this development two years ago while debating some of these former Adventists. I was accused of using defamatory and scaring tactics. What has happened has proven the accuracy of my prediction.

On the basis of what has happened in the past, I dare to predict that those SDA churches that are now conducting regular Sunday worship services, in addition to Sabbath services, will eventually for convenience sake eliminate altogether church services on Saturday. How can we expect Sundaykeepers to accept the principle and practice of Sabbathkeeping when they are invited to worship regularly on Sunday in an Adventist Church?

The notion of conducting a regular Sunday worship service as a way to reach Sundaykeepers who are more free and accustomed to go to church on that day, is inspired not by Scripture, but by the
church growth marketing strategy. The underlying philosophy of this strategy is to give to people what they want. By contrast, the Biblical philosophy is to give to people what they need. Going to church on Saturday may not be popular and convenient for some, but Jesus never promised that it would be easy to follow him. The problem
is that many want to wear a crown without arrying the cross.

THE ACT OF RESTING FOR GOD ON THE SABBATH

By labeling the Sabbath as a "stumbling block" for people to come to Christ, Pastor Taylor ignores the profound religious meaning of the act of resting for God on the seventh day. It is an act that makes all the activities of this day-whether the formal worship service or the informal fellowship and recreation-a worship offering to God since they all of them spring from a heart deliberately committed to honor God on His holy day.

To appreciate the profound religious significance of the Sabbath rest as worship to God, we need to remind ourselves that our life is a measure of time, and the way we spend our time is
indicative of our priorities. We have no time for those toward whom we feel indifferent, but we find time for those for whom we love.

To be willing on the seventh day to withdraw from the world of things in order to meet the invisible God in the quietness of our souls means to show in a tangible way our love, loyalty, and devotion to God. It means to be willing to tune out the hundreds of voices and noises that clamor for attention, in order to tune our souls to
God and to hear His voice.

It means not merely to sandwich in one hour of worship for God in a hectic day spent seeking for selfish pleasure or profit but rather to serve God wholly during the Sabbath, by offering Him the service of our total being. The unique opportunity the Sabbath provides to serve the Lord makes the day, not a stumbling block, but
a stepping stone to come to Christ and fellowship with Him more fully and freely on His Holy Day.

AN UNPRECEDENTED INTEREST FOR THE SABBATH

It is hard to believe that the Pastor Taylor finds the Sabbath a stumbling block for people to come to Christ, when many today are expressing an unprecedented interest for the Sabbath. Church leaders, religious organization, and people of all walks of life, are rediscovering the validity and values of the Sabbath for their lives. The newly released Directory of Sabbath-Observing Group, announced in this newsletter, lists 400 Sabbatarian churches and groups in America, most of which have come into existence within the past thirty years.

Surprisingly, even within mainline denominations (Baptist, Methodists, Mennonite, and Pentecostal), there are churches that are moving their services from Sunday to Saturday. A brief report of this development is found in chapter 7 of THE SABBATH UNDER CROSSFIRE. The chapter is entitled "Rediscovering the Sabbath."

For the sake of brevity I will mention only one Southern Baptist Church which I have known personally. On February 11-12, 1999 I was invited to present my Sabbath Enrichment Seminar at La Sierra University, in Riverside, California, . On Friday evening, at the end of my testimony, the University Pastor, Dan Smith, alerted me that Pastor Allan Stanfield of the First Baptist Church of Lucerne Valley, was sitting in the last pew with some of his church
members. We visited with Pastor Stanfield for half an hour and I gave him a gift copy of my latest book THE SABBATH UNDER CROSSFIRE.

Pastor Stanfield came back next Sabbath morning and Sabbath afternoon. Upon leaving on Saturday evening he told me that he was eager to rediscover the Sabbath for himself and his congregation. A week later he ordered a case of THE SABBATH UNDER CROSSFIRE, which he passed out to the leading families of his congregation. For the next six weeks his members met on Wednesday night to study the Sabbath, using the book as a study guide. Then on Wednesday evening, April 21, 1999, the church held a business meeting in which they voted almost unanimously to move their church services from Sunday to Saturday. The following Saturday, April 24, the church worshipped for the first time on the seventh-day Sabbath. Since then other Southern Baptist churches have followed the same example. Surprisingly, they have been able to remain within the Southern Baptist convention.

A clear indication of the unprecedented interest for rediscovering the Sabbath can be seen also in the sudden appearance of books and articles promoting the seventh day Sabbath. A fitting example is the book Catch Your Breath: God's Invitation to Sabbath Rest (1997), authored by Don Postema who serves as pastor of the Campus Chapel at the University of Michigan, Ann Arbor. In his spiritual search for inner peace and rest, Postema tried various resources including Eastern mediation. One day he was struck by the fact that "Jews and Christians have a practice as near as our Bible, as close as our tradition, as available as the next ten minutes or weekend: the Sabbath."

The book provides a practical and creative guide for
meaningful Sabbathkeeping. Its aim is not to argue for the validity of the Sabbath, but to invite people to practice it. Postema writes:
"The benefit of the Sabbath is not simply in the study of it but most assuredly in the practice of it-in living Sabbath. Reading and thinking about Sabbath is like reading travel brochures and dreaming about great vacation spots but never going there for a vacation. It is interesting. You can learn a lot. But you can't have the
experience unless you make the journey." The book offers practical suggestions on how to make Sabbathkeeping an experience of mental, physical, and spiritual renewal

A most unlikely place to find an article promoting the Sabbath is in the weekend edition of USA TODAY (April 2-4, 1999). The two pages article is entitled "Remember the Sabbath?" and is adapted from Prof. Wayne Muller's book THE SABBATH: REMEMBERING THE SACRED RHYTHM OF REST AND DELIGHT. Muller offers 10 suggestions for
making the Sabbath an enjoyable experience. He closes making a plea for renewed Sabbathkeeping in America today. "Let us take a collective breath, rest, pray, meditate, walk, sing, eat and take time to share the unhurried company of those we love. . . . God does not want us to be exhausted; God wants us to be happy. And so let us remember the Sabbath."

Another unlikely place to find an article promoting the rediscovery of the Sabbath is HEMISPHERE, the magazine of United Airlines. On a United Airline flight to the West Coast I was
surprised to read in the July 1997 issue of their magazine a delightful article entitled "Ancient Wisdom," written by Nan Chase, a frequent contributor to The Washington Post. Chase tells the story of how she discovered the Sabbath by reading about it in a book she found in the waiting room of doctor's office. She was surprised to read that Sabbathkeeping can strengthen marital relationships by bringing the husband and wife closer to one another.

She decided to join the Sabbatarians in observing the Sabbath from "sundown Friday until sundown Saturday" by "no cooking, no shopping or paying of bills, no pulling of weeds or pruning shrubs,
no cleaning or repairing the house, nor even talking about or thinking about work and the office." Chase describes the benefits of
Sabbathkeeping saying: "My personal life, my professional life, and my family life have all improved, and I plan to go on celebrating the
Sabbath."

The foregoing examples of people from different walks of life who are rediscovering the Sabbath as a divine remedy for our tension-filled and stressful lives, discredit Pastor Taylor's contention that Sabbath " constitutes a stumbling block" for many to come to Christ. The fact is thattoday more than ever before people need the rest and renewal which the Sabbath is desgined to provide. A correct understanding and experience of the Sabbath makes people receptive and responsive to Christ's invitation to come to Him and find rest in Him. Thus, the Sabbath can be, not a stumbling block, but a stepping stone to come to Christ.

A NEW LOOK AT WILLOW CREEK METHODS

Pastor Taylor's frank admission that the Sabbath constitutes the major stumbling block to implement the Willow Creek outreach methods, deserves serious consideration. The issue at stake is whether or not the Adventist Church should modify or even abandon those distinctive beliefs that make it difficult to implement popular church growth strategies. The question is, what is more important for the Adventist evangelistic outreach: the message or the methods?

Historically Adventists have believed that God has called the Adventist Church to proclaim a special endtime message to prepare sincere people for a soon-coming Savior. The imagery of the three angels flying in the midst of heaven found in Revelation 14 characterizes the Adventist mission to proclaim a special endtime message to the world. Like countless fellow believers, I joined the Adventist Church because of its message: a message which has given me the reason for living, loving, and serving the Lord.

In recent years, however, the concern to implement church growth strategies which focus on methods, has increasingly weakened the importance of the Adventist message. The outcome is that more and more people are joining the Adventist Church, especially in North America, because of the programs or the worship style of local
churches. A clear understanding and acceptance of the distinctive Adventist beliefs is no longer a requirement for membership. If the present trend continues, the Seventh-day Adventist Church will
eventually loose its identity and mission. It will become just another evangelical church.

Lest I be misunderstood, let me state emphatically that methods are important, but they must not obscure or replace the message. Jesus Himself used effective methods such as parables,
stories, and rhetorical questions to teach people in an arresting way. We need to constantly improve our methods of communicating our message to make it more appealing to the mind-set of our generation.. Personally I have spent over 1000 hours during the past few months preparing the new PowerPoint presentations on the Sabbath and Second Advent. I found that this new visual method of presenting our message makes a world of difference.

Few days ago I delivered my PowerPoint lecture "FROM SABBATH TO SUNDAY: HOW IT CAME ABOUT?" with about 150 slides at Iowa State
University. The response from faculties and students was very gratifying. Some of them bombarded me with questions, showing a genuine interest to learn more about the Sabbath. It was evident that the new visual method heightens the interest and understanding of the subject.

The problem arises when methods become more important than the message. Pastor Taylor's experience fittingly illustrates this point. His numerous visits to Willow Creek to learn the church growth strategies of this mega-church, eventually led him to reject the Sabbath, because he perceived it to be an obstacle to implement such strategies. Pastor Taylor's experience should serve as a wake-up call for our church leaders who have promoted pilgrimages to Willow Creek to learn new methods to foster growth in local Adventist churches.

In a telephone conversation Elder Ken Coonley, President of the Carolina Conference, told me that Pastor Taylor's rejection of the Adventist message, especially the Sabbath, in order to implement Willow Creek methods of church growth, has been a wake up call for Adventist Church leaders, like himself. "In the future," Elder
Coonley said, "the Carolina Conference will no longer sponsor pastors or local church leaders to Willow Creek seminars." This information may not be well-received by those who have become accustomed to attend Willow Creek training sessions at the expenses of their Conference.

THE NEED FOR AN INTERNATIONAL ADVENTIST EVANGELISTIC INSTITUTE

Learning from other religious organizations tested methods of church growth, is a commendable effort. We can discover fresh ideas
applicable to our outreach efforts. The problem arises when we become so eager to implement church growth strategies of other churches that we compromise our message and mission. Adventists have been known to be trailblazers in healthful living, breakfast cereals, global mission, disaster and development programs (ADRA), medical and educational institutions. The challenge we face today is to become trailblazers in communicating the everlasting Gospel to our
endtime generation. To accomplish this objective it would be helpful to establish an International Evangelistic Institute, devoted specifically to develop new strategies to reach Christians and
non-Christians with our message.

At present the North American Evangelistic Institute has little to offer that is uniquely Adventist. A colleague who teaches at the Theological Seminary, told me the other night that 95% of the many publications displayed and sold at the institute are authored by non-SDA specialists in church growth, leadership, and church management. We need to study what these specialists have to say and distill from them any method that can enhance the proclamation of our
message. But ultimately we need to develop our own Adventists evangelistic methods which reflect the biblical foundation of our message.

Elder Charles Watson, a perceptive Englishman who prior to his recent retirement served as Vice-President of the SDA General Conference, expressed this concern to me in a recent message: "Many Seminary graduates are primarily interested in the area of church management and appear to be more familiar with John Maxwell's books on Leadership and Church Management than with the Scripture. . . . John Maxwell's series are not based on a Scriptural foundation.
Remove the title on the cover of the book and most of the content would apply to equally to the running of any secular club."

Our Adventist Church has been blessed through the years with gifted Bible scholars, evangelists, pastors, and media specialists. The establishment of an International Evangelistic Institute could
foster the input of these various experts from different countries, with the goal of finding fresh ways to make our message more relevant
and appealing to our generation. An important aspect of this project could be to explore ways to translate the doctrinal acceptance of the
Adventist message into an existential experience. This need is suggested by Pastor Taylor's perceptive comments about the deficiency of traditional Adventist evangelistic crusades.

If a successful International Adventist Evangelistic Institute could to be established, where the innovative ways of presenting the Adventist message are tested and taught, then
Adventist pastors and lay members who are eager to improve their outreach skills, can make their pilgrimage to this Adventist Institute, rather than to Willow Creek.

Some might argue that no Adventist Evangelistic Institute an ever compete with Willow Creek in terms of numbers and resources. This may be true. But God has not called our church to establish a
15,000 members mega-church in one location, but to preach the Gospel to every nation.

OBSESSION WITH NUMBERS

There seems to be an obsession with numbers today. Churches that have grown from zero to several thousand members are held up as a model for Adventist churches to follow. Frankly I am suspicious about churches that attract thousands of people, because Christ never promised that His Church would become a popular movement. It is
estimated that Paul, the great Apostle to the Gentiles, during his 15 years of intense evangelistic outreach to the Roman world, may have converted between 300 to 400 people. The churches that he established in different parts of the Empire, were home churches, not mega
churches. Most of them consisted of few families that met for worship in a home. In fact, in his epistles Paul mentions by name some of this leading families.

Some justify mega churches by pointing to the thousands who were converted in Jerusalem on the Day of Pentecost and soon afterwards. This argument ignores that the many Jews who believed at that time, did not have to make radical changes in their lifestyle. They simply accepted Jesus of Nazareth as their expected Messiah and
became "believing Jews." They did not have to change religion. These believing Jews were still Jews in their lifestyle. Luke characterizes them as "zealous in the observance of the law" (Acts
21:20).

The situation changed dramatically when Christianity reached beyond Judaism into the pagan world. Then the conversions became
fewer and far between. Usually it took a year to indoctrinate a pagan into the Christian faith. To prepare pagans for baptism, catechetical schools, that is baptismal classes, were established.
Pagans who wanted to be become Christians had to attend these schools that trained them into the Christian faith for months or even years.

According to the World Christian Encyclopedia, by the end of the first century Christianity had grown only to 0.6% of the population, that is, about one million Christians in a population of
181 million people in the Roman Empire. The history of the Early Church is largely a story of a moral minority being ridiculed and persecuted by an immoral pagan majority, that was deeply offended by the exemplary lifestyle and noble teachings of Christ's followers. Eventually Christianity became a popular movement that attracted million of pagans, but the outcome was the adulteration of the Christian message.

Much of the church growth strategies promoted today are based on a market research, which identifies what people want a church to
offer them. Most people want a church that gives them soothing sermons, entertaining programs, physically stimulating beat music, good schooling for their children, delicious fellowship dinners,
great social programs, professional counseling services, etc. Those churches which best recognize the services people want and succeed in
providing them, grow and sometimes become mega-churches with thousands of members. This method of church growth raises serious questions, because the mandate of the Church is to give people what they need, and not necessarily what they want.

What Christians need today is not always what they want to hear. For example, Christians need to be to accept the sanctity of life and to respect the sacredness of their marital commitment. They need to be constantly reminded to give priority to God in their thinking and living on His Holy Day, They need to be instructed on the Biblical distinction between sacred music for worship and secular music for entertainment. They need to be reminded to accept and respect everybody, whether rich or poor, black or white, educated or uneducated. They need to be taught how to live "sober, upright and
godly lives" in a secularly minded and perverse generation (Titus 2:12).

A church that teaches and upholds Biblical moral standards, may never become a mega-church like Willow Creek. The reason was discovered by Pastor Taylor himself, when he found that biblical
teachings like Sabbathkeeping are "a stumbling block" to reach the unchurched-a softer term for what the Bible calls the "Gentiles." The solution to the problem is not to abandon those biblical teachings which are a stumbling block to secularly minded people, but to help people discover the relevance of biblical truths for their lives today. Churches committed to teach Biblical moral principles may grow slowly, but their influence will be widely felt. Let us never forget that when Christianity was a moral minority it turned the Roman world upside down. By contrast, when it became an immoral majority it turned biblical truths upside down.

GRADUAL REJECTION OF ELLEN WHITE

Besides the Sabbath, the second major stumbling block for Pastor Taylor is the prophetic role of Ellen White. Pastor Taylor writes: "We have come to the conclusion from our research that she is
not reliable as a prophetic voice." The reason given is that allegedly "Ellen White clearly, knowingly and extensively copied from other sources while claiming that she was NOT doing so except in a few rare cases. Some estimates of her borrowing are as high as 80%. Even the Desire of Ages, my favorite EGW book, has, according to a
church sponsored study, 'no significant line of thinking that is original' to her."

The allegation that Ellen White borrowed as high as 80% of her writings from other sources, is patently false. The eight years in-depth investigation into Ellen White's use of literary sources conducted with scientific criteria by Fred Veltman, Ph. D., indicates that only 31% of the 15 chapter of Desire of Ages examined, had some degree of dependency upon material appearing in 500-plus literary sources. "The average dependency of the 823 dependent sentences rated
just a little higher than the level of 'loose paraphrase.'" (Ministry, October 1990, p. 6).

The criterium for determining the reliability of an inspired author, is not originality or literary independence, but the authority and truthfulness of the information communicated. As Fred Veltman puts it, "She saw herself as a messenger of the Lord. I believe that the issue that concerned her was the authority and truth
of her messages-not their originality" (Ministry, Dec 1990, p. 12). We do not reject 1 Chronicles because it was largely copied from "the records of Samuel the Seer, the records of Nathan the prophet and the records of Gad the seer" (1 Chron 29:29; 2 Chron 9:29; 12:15; 16:11; 20:34; 24:27).

Those who fault Ellen White for using information from other authors, ignore that most of the information contained in the Bible was NOT communicated by God directly. In most instances, divine revelation assumed the form of guidance in the selection and evaluation of available information.

Moses, for example, was presumably guided by God in the selection and reconstruction of the oral tradition of patriarchal history. Luke wrote his "orderly account" of Christ's life by
gathering testimonies from eyewitnesses (Luke 1:2-3). It is a known fact that the writers of the synoptic Gospels used sources containing information about the life and teaching of Christ. Unfortunately these sources were lost and we cannot establish the extent of literary dependency of Matthew, Mark, and Luke. New Testament scholars have long debated this question, known as the "Synoptic Problem." We do not reject the Matthew, Mark, and Luke, because of their literary dependency upon other sources.

God does not encourage laziness by providing information already available in other sources. This helps us to understand why Ellen White spent countless hours seeking for the historical accounts of the events she had seen in vision. She recognized her limitations. When the revision was done of THE GREAT CONTROVERSY in 1911, she
thanked the scholars who made the necessary corrections. I have reasons to believe that if she was alive today, she would appreciate
any additional corrections competent scholars could offer to her writings.

The fact that Ellen White used various sources in her writings, tells me that she was not a "lazy writer," but a diligent investigator of truth. This is proven by the fact that her library
had about 2000 books-far more than most preachers or even professors have today.

My guess is that people who devote their time and efforts to discredit Ellen White, or the Bible writers for that matter, most likely have a problem in accepting their admonitions. I found this to be true in my research of the Sabbath. Those who want to spend the Sabbath time seeking for personal pleasure and profit, are inclined to develop a subjective theology that releases them from its obligation.

On a personal note, what has established my confidence in the prophetic ministry of Ellen White, is the fact that she speaks to my
spiritual needs. For many years now, my wife and I, have been reading from the daily devotionals of Ellen White. For us they are a constant
challenge and inspiration. Often we start the year with the devotional book of the year, but after few weeks, we switch to one of Ellen White. The reason is simple. No one seems to speak to our spiritual needs as Ellen White does.

DOES ELLEN WHITE DEPRIVE ADVENTISTS OF THE ASSURANCE OF SALVATION?

Pastor Taylor believes that Ellen White has had a profound negative effect on the spiritual life of Adventists, by depriving them of the assurance of salvation. He expresses this conviction with
these startling words: "For us, the biggest problem with Ellen White is the effect she has had on the SDA church. There is still wide
misunderstanding of the gospel of grace in Adventism. In our years of service this has been an enormous barrier in helping people find
assurance. It is not that she did not teach grace. She did teach it beautifully at times, but she also taught perfectionism. Adventists
are still basically confused as a people about the very core of the Christian faith. It is so difficult for most Adventists to grasp the
Gospel because of these statements. We have never seen an Adventist church truly dedicated to applying the writings of EGW that is a
vibrant, alive, growing, happy church community. The responsibility for this falls directly on the shoulders of EGW. Surely a church with
100,000 pages of 'inspired' writings should have an even greater grasp on the Good News than other churches. Sadly, this is not the case."

In this statement Pastor Taylor levels two major accusations against Ellen White: (1) She deprives Adventists of the assurance of salvation by teaching perfectionism, in addition to the Gospel of grace. (2) Churches that apply her writings are NOT "a vibrant, alive, growing, happy church community."

The problem with these accusations is that they are based on Pastor Taylor's subjective perceptions, most likely conditioned by the turmoils and instability of his past life. May I ask Pastor Taylor, "What is it that gives to a believer the assurance of our salvation? Is it only the confession to believe in God's forgiving
grace through Christ's atoning sacrifice? Or is it also the experience of cleansing grace manifested in living in a newness of life?"

The fact that Ellen White constantly exhorts believers to overcome known sins in their lives, does not mean that she deprives them of the assurance of salvation. After all we find the same exhortations throughout the Bible. Much of the book of Amos that we are studying this quarter in our Sabbath School, consists of strong
denunciations of the sins of the Israelites. The same is true of the message of all the OT prophets. They spend far more time exposing
sin, than reassuring people of their salvation.

Like their OT counterpart, the New Testament writers exhort believers to acknowledge sin in their lives and overcome it by God's grace. For example, John writes: "If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just, and will forgive our sins and cleanse us from all unrighteousness" (1 John 1:8-9). The assurance of salvation comes to us, not merely by confessing our sins, but primarily by experiencing the cleansing power of God's grace, which enables us to overcome the sins that we have confessed.

Like John, Paul constantly exhorts believers to overcome sin in their lives. "Put off your old nature which belongs to your former manner of life . . . and put on the new nature, created after the likeness of God in true righteousness and holiness" (Eph 4:22, 24). This transformation from the old to the new nature is a constant
process which entails human effort and divine grace: "Work out your own salvation with fear and trembling; for God is at work in you, both to will and to work for his good pleasure" (Phil 2:12-13). Did Paul misunderstand the Gospel by urging believers to work out their own salvation with fear and trembling? Did he deprive believers of the assurance of salvation by urging them to live according to "the just requirements of the law" and to "walk not according to the
flesh, but according tot he Spirit" (Rom 8:4)? The answer is obviously "NO!" The Apostle understood that believers experience the
assurance of salvation when they experienced the transforming power of the Gospel in their own lives.

Contrary to Pastor Taylor's accusations, Ellen White did not misunderstand the Gospel of grace. Like Paul, John, and the rest of the NT writers, she understood that the Good News of the Gospel,
consists not only in the payment of the penalty of our sins at the Cross, but also in the power to overcome sin in our daily life. For example, she writes: "All who receive Christ as a personal Savior are to demonstrate the truth of the Gospel and its saving power upon the life. God makes no requirement without making provision for its
fulfillment. Through the grace of Christ we may accomplish everything that God requires" (COL 301).

The second allegation that congregations that apply her writings are NOT "a vibrant, alive, growing, happy church community," is patently false. The most happy and vibrant fellow-believers that I know, are those who follow the principles outlined in the writings of Ellen White. They enjoy living a clean and healthy lifestyle and they experience the transforming grace of the Gospel in their daily life.

This is not to deny that there are a few Adventists who develop legalistic attitudes from reading Ellen White's writing. They have a gloomy, accusative attitude, and tend to be critical of everything and everybody. They look upon themselves as the living examples of perfection and measure everybody by their own standards. Their problem, however, is the misuse of the Ellen White's writings.

Jesus faced the same problem in His ministry when he confronted the legalistic attitudes of the Scribes and Pharisees. Their legalism was derived from a fanatical application of the teachings of the Scripture. Do we then reject the Bible because some have develop legalistic attitudes from reading it? Obviously not. The solution is to be found in teaching people to be balanced in
their thinking and living, avoiding the extremes of fanaticism on the one hand, and relativism on the other hand.

CONCLUSION

The foregoing evaluation of Pastor Taylor's religious journey, suggests that he may suffer from mental and emotional instability, which makes him easily victim of erroneous teachings. It seems that every major event that he mentions, had an impact on his beliefs. Events inside and outside the church have influenced and swayed his theological positions.

Pastor Taylor upbringing in a legalistic Adventist Home where there was too much law and too little grace, could well have predisposed him negatively against the Sabbath, Ellen White, and the Adventist Church in general. Most likely the Sabbath came to symbolize for him all what he hated most about the Adventist church. This resentful attitude eventually led him to a life of addiction to drugs and alcohol.

The recovery that he experienced later in life, may not have eradicated the negative attitudes toward the Sabbath, Ellen White, and the Church that he developed in his early life. Psychologists inform us that emotional scars can last a lifetime. The intellectual instability manifested in the fluctuation of his theological
positions, may well reflect the emotional scars still present in his life.

Let us pray for Pastor Greg Taylor that God may bring healing and stability to his life; that he may experience the assurance and joy of salvation by living in harmony with the principles the Lord
has revealed for our mental, physical, and spiritual well-being.

NOTE: The next two newsletters will provide an in-depth analysis of Pastor Taylors's anti-Sabbath arguments.

Christian regards

Samuele Bacchiocchi, Ph. D.,
Retired Professor of Theology and Church History,
Andrews University
4990 Appian Way
Berrien Springs, MI 49103

Phone (616) 471-2915 Fax (616) 471-4013

E-mail: <sbacchiocchi@qtm.net>
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Wow! Was this supposed to be a scholarly response to Greg's article? I began reading it with the fear that I might actually be dissuaded from the beliefs that I have come to hold. Afterall, this is the reknowned Dr. Bacchiocchi. Instead, I find Dr. Bacchiocchi's "learned" opinion that Greg is emotionally and intellectually unstable. Where did that come from? His defense of the Sabbath and doctrine over love and grace is just further evidence of the arrogant nature of Adventism. Whereas Jesus ministered among the sinners of his day (and never once condemned anyone but the Pharisees), Bacchiocchi responds in typical Adventist (Pharisee) fashion by questioning the Son of God's right to heal on the Sabbath. We need to pray more than ever for those who are trapped in this abusive organization.

Glad to Secure be in His Grace

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