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Daniel_Marsh (Daniel_Marsh)
Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 3:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What are the connections between Christadelphians, Boston Untarians, Christian Connextion, Jehovah's Witnesses and And Adventistism of Millers' day? Is there a chart that displays which pioneers came from which groups to form the SDA church? And, what do you know about the author of this link?

http://www.giveshare.org/churchhistory/cogsdarusseliteschristadelphians.html
Sherry2 (Sherry2)
Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 6:32 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There's a roots of the worldwide church of God chart in the book "Transformed by Truth" by Joseph Tkach that lists other churches all interconnected and come out of the 1844 movement such as JW's, American Unitarians, WWCofG, but some of those churches you listed I don't see on there. I no nothing of the author of the link you shared....anyone else?
Lucias (Lucias)
Posted on Wednesday, April 10, 2002 - 7:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The chart Sherry refers to is available at the following URL

http://www.wcg.org/lit/AboutUs/roots.htm

I found it very interesting, and from what I know it seems accurate.

I don't know anything about the link you posted Daniel.
Daniel_Marsh (Daniel_Marsh)
Posted on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 6:44 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It was from this article that I got the hint to start looking into unitarian roots of SDAism.

"Undoubtedly, the main conduit of Arianism and anti-Trinitarianism into early Seventh-day Adventism was the Restorationist backgrounds of numerous Sabbatarian Adventist founding fathers (referred to as the "pioneers"). The most prominent were James White and Captain Joseph Bates (1792-1872). These men had been ministers in the Christian Connection Church, which was the back country version of Boston Unitarianism, but with a much more evangelical bent. Developments in New England restorationism in many ways paralleled what was going on among the Campbellites and Stonites out in the Ohio River Valley. The key credo of these movements involved a rationalistic, anti-creedal, reductionistic view of Christian doctrine. The anti-creedal claims were backed up with the slogan that "we have no creed but the Bible." Such sloganeering betrayed a hearty suspicion of anything that could not be rationally explained and the key test of doctrine was: did it conform to the most obvious and literal reading of the Bible?"

Arianism, Adventism and Methodism: The Healing of Trinitarian Teaching and Soteriology
by Woodrow Whidden, PhD., Professor of Religion at Andrews University, Berrien Springs, Michigan
http://www.sdanet.org/atissue/trinity/TrinityWhidden.html

Also, more hints here

"This wasn't lost on some Christians of the early 1800's, who associated the doctrine of the Trinity with other traditional beliefs they personally rejected. So it was that an American denomination called the Christian Connection concluded that the doctrine of the Trinity, at least the form of it that they had encountered, was of nonbiblical origin. Some prominent Millerites, such as J. V. Himes, and early Sabbath-keeping Adventists, including Joseph Bates and James White, had been members of the Christian Connection."

Heresy or Hopeful Sign?
Early Adventists' Struggle with the Truth about the Trinity by Jerry Moon Ph.D. , professor of church history at the Seventh-day Adventist Theological Seminary in Berrien Springs, Michigan
http://www.sdanet.org/atissue/trinity/Trinity%20Review%20art.htm

http://www.sdanet.org/atissue/trinity/gane-thesis/index.htm

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=Disciples+of+christ+%22Christian+Connection%22

Then while looking into campbellite sites I saw the connection between Boston Untiarians and Campellites and eventually unto the connections between Boston Unitarians and SDA.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&safe=off&q=Christian+Connection+unitarian+campbellite

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=semi-arian+adventist&btnG=Google+Search

"A prolific writer, dynamic preacher, and able administrator; few men have had a greater influence upon the Advent movement than Elder James White. Baptized at the age of 15, James White, like Joshua Himes and Joseph Bates, was a member of the Christian Connection."
http://www.smyrna.org/books/ff/ff_html/FF8.htm#_VPID_45 ( Pro Semi-Arian source )


The basic steps are simple:

1. Boston Untiarians influence Campbellites
2. Some early Adventists ( latter SDA ) were Campbellites.

There were also indications of the boston untiarian connection in early campbellite newspapers.

The basic weakness of this arguement is proving beyond doubt that some early adventists including James White were campbellites.
Lucias (Lucias)
Posted on Thursday, April 11, 2002 - 4:14 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Daniel,

Interesting stuff. I have looked into the roots of EGW in Methodism but the roots of the other founders I have not really delved into.

Thanks.

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