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Gatororeo7 (Gatororeo7)
Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 7:57 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.adventist.org/issues/analysis.html

This is an interesting article on people leaving the SDA church that was posted on their official site. This is just an FYI.

Joel
Another_Carol (Another_Carol)
Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 9:19 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I must say that is an interesting article at the begining as I felt like we were moving in a direction of letting a person be the person God wants them to be rather than a SDA. Mennonite, Batpist, Nazerine, etc. etc. but then I felt the same way I always do when reading their discertatins and that is they are trying to say what should be said but trying to put a little different slant on it. I say at the begining because once I got about 1/3 way down I couldn't go on anymore. I did see a very interesting thing under Doctrine, I think anyway it was on page 10 and I printed it. This is what was stated

We will have to return to the quesion of the importance of doctrine. I firmly believe that doctrines are important. If we say that we believe, we must clarify in Whom we believe, what we believe about Him and his relationship toward us, and what those beleives imply for our everyday life. If people do not put in words-difficult as that is-what they believe, they will find that they will soon not believe anything at all.

I would have to say he answered his own question of why are people leaving. I have yet to hear a person give me a lengthy testimony of what and why they believe. And if they should try to explain to me it is someone else's words or they might just say "It's the truth". I could speak about the reason I believe for hours because it is a definite part of my life, a relationship that I have experiences with on a daily somtimes hourly basis. Most assuredly this happens when I am in turmoil over something and I am in constant comune with God.

I would also say it is not difficult for me to put into words what I believe but I guess it would be if I had to say what someone else told me I should say. That's the part they just don't get,if you can't say it yourself it's not yours and if it's not yours then you don't have a relationship with Christ someone else does. Or in some cases it may be they have a relationship with something other than Christ. I know who I have a relationship with because I do not look to anyone else for what I should do ,say , eat,wear, or how I should worship. I worship the way my Lord and Saviour told the woman at the well and that includes me: They will worship me in spirit and in truth.

I think if they would only read what they write then maybe the blinders would come off.

May we claim truth for our brothers and sisters today, Carol
Thomas1 (Thomas1)
Posted on Saturday, January 25, 2003 - 9:30 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I just completed reading the material. This is a very sincere man with an obvious burden. He overlooks one obvious problem. Adventists claim to be an evangelical "Bibal based" church. They really do not see tha they are a "bible based, only through the interpretation of E.G. White" church. And there lies the problem for so many who have chosen to read scripture for it's own message. Sola Scriptura. This is the foundatiion of Evangelical, Reformed faith. To be an Adventist requires FIRST that you express faith in the "prophetic" work of White. When the Bible is taken as the SOLE rule and guide of our faith, things change.

Instead of denominational focus, focus on what SHE says, focus on the "special place" of the Advdentist movement, you find that the focus is on J E S U S, ALONE! The reformers based their faith on five great tenants. 1. Sola Scriptura (Scripture alone as the all sufficient inerrent rule and guide of our faith) 2. Sola Gratia (Man is saved by God's grace alone) 3. Sola Fide (through faith alone) 4. Solo Christo (In Jesus Christ, alone) and 5. Soli Deo Gloria (All things are for God's glory, alone). This faith based Gospel leaves little room for latter day "added light", "Special remnants", or latter day "Prophetic light".

That is the problem that this writer either fails to see or fails to address I am sure that most do not leave for such serious reasons, However, these are the reasons why I, for one, could never again be a signer to the 27 "rules" necessary to call my self an Adventist. Never again!

The more I read the Word on it's own, and Church history, the more I read myself OUT of Adventist belief, and INTO another Christian tradition.

In His Grace (alone)

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thomas

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