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Gene (Gene)
Posted on Sunday, March 02, 2003 - 2:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Posted by Janice relating what she'd observed in an Adventist baptism:

One distinct thing that I will never forget was their statement of the fact that they willingly gave up any of their prior beliefs from old Christian beliefs and pronounced the entire Christian body, aside from the SDAs, as being false and of the antichrist and went on to state that they would be forever grateful for the SABBATH day truth that EGW has so lovingly bestowed on them.
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From the original Mormom temple ceremony (akin to baptism):

(Although Adam has already encountered Lucifer in the Garden of Eden, he fails to recognize him at this appearance.)

ADAM:: Who are you?

LUCIFER:: I am the God of this world.

ADAM:: You, the God of this world?

LUCIFER:: Yes, what do you want?

ADAM:: I am looking for messengers.

LUCIFER:: Oh, you want someone to preach to you. You want religion, do you? I will have preachers here presently. There will be many willing to preach to you the philosophies of men mingled with scripture.

(Lucifer turns his head as a sectarian minister approaches.)

LUCIFER:: Good Morning sir!

SECTARIAN MINISTER: Good morning!

(The preacher turns and looks into the camera.)

SECTARIAN MINISTER: A fine congregation!

LUCIFER:: Yes, they are a very good people. They are concerned about religion. Are you a preacher?

SECTARIAN MINISTER: I am.

LUCIFER:: Have you been to college and received training for the ministry?

SECTARIAN MINISTER: Certainly! A man cannot preach unless has been trained for the ministry.

LUCIFER:: Do you preach the orthodox religion?

SECTARIAN MINISTER: Yes, that is what I preach.

LUCIFER:: If you will preach your orthodox religion to these people, and convert them, I will pay you well.

SECTARIAN MINISTER: I will do my best.

(Lucifer guides the preacher to Adam and Eve, who stand nearby.)

LUCIFER:: Here is a man who desires religion. He is very much exercised, and seems to be sincere.
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I haven't studied JW teachings, but a former JW friend told me that the world is divided into sheep and goats, and they're the sheep.

HERE'S MY OBSERVATION. It seems as though the three predominate cults we run into have, as part of their basis, a teaching that everyone not of their denomination is ungodly at best and satanic at worst.

My interest in studying some Adventist history is largely due to my curiosity over a possible link to Mormon influence upon EGW. Both cults started in New England, and Joseph Smith died in 1844. Whereas SDA teaching embraces the old covenant of the law, the LDS church revels in it, reviving different levels of priesthoods and blending them with Masonic rituals and oaths.

While I may not have a lot to add, I'd sure be interested in learning from a thread devoted to the similarities, overlaps, and connections between these groups. Including their grasp on American society today. High public offices seem disproportinately composed of Mormons, and Mormon companies seem to control a lot of large grocery chains and gasoline distributorships. Adventists are heavily involved in the medical industry. I don't know what JWs are good at.

Anyone else share my strange fascination with groups who despise us?

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