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| Denisegilmore (Denisegilmore) |
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| Denisegilmore (Denisegilmore) |
Tonight myeyes are pretty good and body tryi8ng to rebel but not so bad. Thank God! forget the typoss...get over them. I make mentionn of these posts and have questions. By Colleentinker (Colleentinker) on Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 05:07 pm: Denise, I am also praying for your healing, not just for your body but also for you memories and your heart and the old wounds in your experience. Colleen Colleen, what memoeries, why heart and what old wounds??? By Sabra (Sabra) on Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 05:19 pm: Amen Colleen, I think those strongholds have a lot to do with it. Denise, I am not diminishing your sufferring AT ALL. I know you are sick and sufferring A LOT, satan needs to be put in his place--out of your life! You are a trooper and you deal with these things very well and with great trust in God. I'm just saying Jesus died to give you LIFE and that more abundantly and I know He wants you to have just that. You are worthy in Him to receive it! Believe that! Sabra, satan attacks every Christian thereis. Paul had a thornn too, it did not go away. What foothold?? That was my question to you both. Whatt is that suggestingg?? I read everybody's plight and respond..yet, this cripple had no responses....is therea problem here????? Anwserr me in public. A litttle upholding my own fight would nott hvve hurt any of you too giive out. Yet sadly, as is the custom in this world...is ignored. You are not of this worldd wee cannot siimply tell satan to stop atacking us Sabara. Ask Paul./ Ask Peter who tells us of trieals and tribulationas along withhh many others. This sister over here, if I am one aftrall, needed encouragement and acknowwledgement. you were not blinded nor crippled nor feell this pain. but it looks like you were all blindeed to my triials. Because II'm not fighttyhing with family I dont count?? Sabra, Church? did you readd my possts on trying to get a ride?? you peoplle are my chruch ........maybe. Unless it turnss outtlikke the ones I've been to in builldings. did youu even bother to read what i suffer withh? i don''t want pity but encouragementt wouldnnt havee hurt nor ACKNOWLLLEDGEMENT. denisse the outcast orr the invisiible woman? one of the twooo for sure.. Carol..thankk you for yourr prayer....it wass with heart and much appreciatted. Bllsessings. Ps...only way i;ll be otu of sight out of mind is to be booted off forumm.... | ||
| Colleentinker (Colleentinker) |
Denise, all of us have pasts that have contributed to who we are today. You have alluded to such things in your own life several times. In my life I have experienced some chronic conditions at various times and some acute ones that were directly related to events and long-term stressors I experienced. My physical problems have been real and needed medical intervention, but my heart and memories also needed healing. God still reveals areas in my life that I have to surrender to him for healing. That's all I meant, Denise. Our bodies and hearts and minds are intimately intertwined. I'm not suggesting your illnesses are "all in your head". They're not; they're real. I'll just venture a guess, however, that you do have memories and experiences that have left wounds on your soul that also need healing. I'm praying for those as well as for your physical health. Love, Colleen | ||
| Sabra (Sabra) |
Denise, I care for you a lot, I pray for you, I consider you a good friend. I didn't in any way mean to offend you, just trying to help. I thought I remembered you telling me that a Baptist minister had come and invited you to church, I could be wrong. If I told you things that I've had to go through it would make your hair on your neck stand up, we certainly all have thorns in our flesh and I am one of those who tends to ignore mine or suppress them or just pretend they aren't there. I don't DEAL with them, this is a stronghold in my own life. I don't have resentment or unforgiveness I just don't really have feelings either way and that's not so healthy either. Just know that I love you and I only want what's best for you and encouragement is all I want to give you. If I lived near you I would take you to church. If there is ANYTHING I CAN do for you please tell me. | ||
| Janice (Janice) |
I have been listening to 93.3fm radio all week on my way to work and the discussion was a three-part topic on Total Forgiveness by R.T. Kendall speaking with Dr. James Dobson. The broadcast is called Focus On The Family and the web site is www.family.org and is full of information and devotionals and an online store to order books and videos too. I was so impressed with what I heard those three days that I went to the web site and clicked on it to hear the discussions all over again. Dr. Kendall spoke a lot about Joseph and what all he went through when his brothers decided to sell him as a slave. I really want to get his book to read it more indepth, but I liked several points that he brought out in his discussions. He spoke on what true and total forgiveness was as well as what it was not and he made this remark that really hit home with me. He said that the person that is the hardest on someone and can't seem to forgive is usually the person that is hardest on themselves and went on to say that for most people, it is ourselves that we have the hardest time forgiving. I really do believe that the devil uses a low self-esteem to make us feel unworthy of God's love and this eventually will convince us that maybe we really are not a saved child of God after all and just maybe all the religious cults out there in the world are right in telling us that there is something ELSE that we NEED to be DOING besides accepting God's grace in simple childlike faith. I don't want to make this post ten miles long as usual, so, I have cut and pasted the three discussions here in my post for any of you who may want to go to them and listen for yourselves. I guarantee that it will bless your heart, and maybe even heal it. www.family.org/fmedia/broadcast/a0024531.cfm www.family.org/fmedia/broadcast/a0025147.cfm www.family.org/fmedia/broadcast/a0025146.cfm One last thing, I am not trying to suggest to anyone that they NEED any of this. I just wanted to share a blessing with you all. Love, Janice | ||
| Denisegilmore (Denisegilmore) |
Janice, Waht in the world are you posting that [post here for? I'm not unforgiving nor angry with famly or friends. Simply called people on thier non-action. Now maybe you have a probem wth your family and maybe the tohers do to but I dont. My problem is the Christian world in generall who stick to their little clickss and only post trials of the same kind. While the others out here, who hav e no problem with family are being ignroe.d. Also, incase anybody is completely out of their minds......my physical disiblity is not going to go away. plain and simple. It's prermanent and progressive at taht. Now, this may also come as a surprose to all of you, but it has NOTHING to do with past memories, nor my heartt condition, nor how bad mummy and daddy treeated me.......sheesh! NOr does it have anyting to do with any outside events......this is a neurological problems wheere the neurotramistters are not doing their gjob properly. It is ont a generaltional curse for crying out loud. This is what I deal with dailluy around the clock whether sad, happy angry or not. nothing from my memorries, nothings from my 'unforgiveing heart', nothing at all like that. It is as though I'm hearing everyohbody think thiese thigns. If someone has cancer or a broken bone, do you all tryo to tell them to cast out satan or it is a genralatioinal curse or that they are being unforgiving or things of that nature?aaa/? or do uyou reali8ze that ALL sickness is FROM satan and will happen to us all. NOw maybe you all have a had an incgrown toenail or something or a broken bone or hurt feeleings....but it healed. Mine has no healing in the picture and is getting wrose. True, stresss doesn't help this thingg. like many of you heree whoo share what'ss going on with your life.. i shared whats' going on with mine./ and aske for prayer.......not for healing but tht Godss will wbe done. I'm not into physcho babble speak......just real as reall can get with a real physiclal disablity that is NOTT going to go away but only fprogress as it's doing. excuse the (*^#$AIO:KLJ out of me for sharing my trieals withh you all. am i angry noww? yes. yo uall have some kiond of thinkging that things like parkinsons disease or MD aree from being unformgiving or because of thee psast....this is NOT soo. Get real. Thnk yo ufor your thoughts colleen even though tgbhis has nothing to do with my heart condition nor my past. Still, my past is one that would amke anybody shudeer and this includes yhou sabra. Maybe sabara you need to satart deealing with those 'feelings'. in the meantime, I'm in acurled positons trying my sbest to type and in much pain.. pray that God igvie me strngth to get through a nother day. NOTTTTTTTT for healing.. thanks. yourr sister whoo is in too much pain to hear pshycho babble or this bolgonaa about my memeories or a tojpeic aon forgiveness.. I haved plaenty of knowoledege on those things and can do quite well in those areass but am now talking about my treials......NOT yours..today. Thaks and God Bless.....Peace be with oyu allll and please continue praying. NOt more talk about pshycho babble naturee...I'mm ont into that sort of mentaility. I thakn Godddd for His Grace and Help in those areaas. But my angerrand yes it is anger aobut topics on forgiveness etceteraaa will be taken car eof a soon as you all realize that tihigns like cancer.l or parkinsons. diabetes, are not about memoreies, nor hear t meattaers nro forgivensss...seeheesh! heress' a story oof one woman, therswe is a part two if yo ugo there and read at http://www.geocities.com/Petsburgh/6691/mystorytwo.htm hers is rfrom a drug, mineee is not...at leattst thats' what thee docs thingkk right onw. I'll find out on the 16 aprill IF I can get a ride to my appornitnment. Praye also for that PLEASEE. Otheriseise i am hicthhchiking to Faallbrookk.. Thanks your sisttter in Christ Jesuss. denisww.e. | ||
| Denisegilmore (Denisegilmore) |
hereess the first partt.. http://www.geocities.com/Petsburgh/6691/mystory.htm | ||
| Janice (Janice) |
Denise, I just posted here in this spot because it was the first empty page that I came too. I am sorry that you are having such a hard time and thinking that everyone is out to get you. If you read my post, then maybe you should go back and read the very last sentence of it because I certainly didn't mean anything personal about it and am sorry that you took it like that. Maybe you should read the opening page of this forum again as well. Remember too that this is a public forum and not a private email nor was your name addressed at all in my post. What does it say about "personal attacks" and wasn't that what you REBUKED me for the other day when you found a post that was over a week old and took it upon yourself to do the job that you said the web masters weren't doing? Was that not attacking both me and the web masters? Just some food for thought. Sorry to offend, but I am sick of staying quiet when you lash out at everyone here in the forum. It seems to me that I can remember almost every one in the forum sending you a personal post to say that they were praying for you and this is how you repay? Sabra, can you send me an e-mail about that link that you mentioned to me? I can't make heads or tails of it, thanks, I am "GraceTaught" by the way. I would appreciate the help or maybe I should find another empty spot to pose that question in, I wouldn't want to offend by speaking in the wrong spot, everyone knows I say whatever and wherever I happen to be with the thoughts start, and I am definitely not the only one guilty of it either!!! Janice | ||
| Denisegilmore (Denisegilmore) |
Janicee, you knowwhow to staart a thread...just remidning yo fo that fact. your topic has hothing to do with thjs thread. that's alll. soo not rebuke but correctionn and remindider. thanks. and do ntot put words in my mouth ...not ALL are out oto get me.. i nnever thought that nor saidd it.. d | ||
| Denisegilmore (Denisegilmore) |
Janicee,, onemore thing. you needed rebuke with gossippp. gossiop is wworong and againstt God. d | ||
| Denisegilmore (Denisegilmore) |
Sabraa, I knoww yhou care and Im glad. hope yoou do reaad that websitee. maybe someone you knoww has soemmthing similar and is lackinggg chrissistian suport. Hopoing this thread for those whoo do haveeee disablitites andd have nobody to talk with. wouldd be nice to havee aa thread for all. don't you think?/ thankk you for yuour prayeers and all tohers who pryeaed too. if i;'m painted as black in my heartt,, people whoo do nknow me knoww better. i jhoppe. GodBless, DDeiise......in Christ. | ||
| Denisegilmore (Denisegilmore) |
""Just know that I love you and I only want what's best for you and encouragement is all I want to give you. If I lived near you I would take you to church."" TTahnk you!  deniise | ||
| Bmorgan (Bmorgan) |
Janice, I am so glad you mentioned the Focus on the Family program.. I heard bits and pieces while I was running errands in the car but on Thursday I felt compelled to sit and listen attentively. I was deeply affected. I really understand why you wanted to share it with the Forum and would like to say thank you. It is so easy to have a pity party and live in denial. I have to constantly do a reality check whenever I become so hypersensitive and unwilling to look at me and truely ask God to search and show me my heart. I have to allow Him to radically change me. Oh, I guess it is the natural part of me to see others faults while I harbor bitternes and be unforgiving. However, God called me to live in freedom-not to satisfy my sinful nature... Luke 6:37, Eph 4:30, are a challenge for me. I don't want to chase the Dove away with anger,unforgiveness,pride, self righteousness or any bitterness that may shroud my heart. It was the first time I have heard about R.T.Kendall. He seems to be a good teacher. His book sounds interesting. Thanks againg for sharing Janice. Bmorgan | ||
| Janice (Janice) |
BMorgan, Thanks for the words of encouragement. That was all that I truly wanted to do with my post and am sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings. I can only relate what I have experienced and can only enlighten with what I have received and just felt that I was passing the torch, so to speak. It is like I said too that whenever I come to the forum, the very first thing that I do is click for new messages and I go to those posts and read, and when I get to the bottom of it where it says "Add a Message" then that is where I begin my post unless I specifically have some topic that has a thread created for that purpose such as the rapture thread or the thread on cults and also the thread that I began on the unities of God. Since I cover a dozen different subjects in one post, I really didn't see any particular need to go to a dozen different threads and jump around from one thing to another. I have been doing my posts like this from day one and didn't really see why anyone would get angry at me for writing that way and, like I said, everyone writes this way in the forum. Some may start a paragraph with a person's name to call attention to what that person had posted or maybe to answer a question that a specific person has asked in the forum in a former post, so, why then do we feel a need to claim squatter's rights on any particular thread just because we were the one that started it? I am truly sorry that I have invaded someone's territory here, so, maybe I should ask the web masters to give me more specific and detailed instructions on how to post in a forum or maybe we should each give an explanation as to why we even come to a forum anyway and just what exactly is a forum? I thought it was a place for DISCUSSION!!! Guess I need to get out of this thread though, amen. Thanks anyway BMORGAN. Janice | ||
| Denisegilmore (Denisegilmore) |
For those of you suffering with disabilities and deep sorrow, take time to read this. It will help lift you up in spirit during your time of trial. "Saturday, April 12, 2003 This Morning's Meditation C. H. Spurgeon "My heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my bowels."óPsalm 22:14. UR blessed Lord experienced a terrible sinking and melting of soul. "The spirit of a man will sustain his infirmity, but a wounded spirit who can bear?" Deep depression of spirit is the most grievous of all trials; all besides is as nothing. Well might the suffering Saviour cry to His God, "Be not far from me," for above all other seasons a man needs his God when his heart is melted within him because of heaviness. Believer, come near the cross this morning, and humbly adore the King of glory as having once been brought far lower, in mental distress and inward anguish, than any one among us; and mark His fitness to become a faithful High Priest, who can be touched with a feeling of our infirmities. Especially let those of us whose sadness springs directly from the withdrawal of a present sense of our Father's love, enter into near and intimate communion with Jesus. Let us not give way to despair, since through this dark room the Master has passed before us. Our souls may sometimes long and faint, and thirst even to anguish, to behold the light of the Lord's countenance: at such times let us stay ourselves with the sweet fact of the sympathy of our great High Priest. Our drops of sorrow may well be forgotten in the ocean of His griefs; but how high ought our love to rise! Come in, O strong and deep love of Jesus, like the sea at the flood in spring tides, cover all my powers, drown all my sins, wash out all my cares, lift up my earth-bound soul, and float it right up to my Lord's feet, and there let me lie, a poor broken shell, washed up by His love, having no virtue or value; and only venturing to whisper to Him that if He will put His ear to me, He will hear within my heart faint echoes of the vast waves of His own love which have brought me where it is my delight to lie, even at His feet for ever." |
