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| Colleentinker (Colleentinker) |
Some friends brought the ham--a Honeybaked. It was wonderful! (It saved me fixing it, although I'm actually sort-of wanting to see if I can do it myself!) Colleen | ||
| Sherry2 (Sherry2) |
Mine turned out awesome! Got raves from everyone who tried it. Had abit left-over so I've been enjoying it during the week as well. What a sweet meat...I had forgotten. I got a recipe from "Quick Cooking". It was great.  | ||
| Thomas1 (Thomas1) |
I couldnt respond to this thread until now. Computer lost it's entire memory so I had to reooad everything. That meant loosing all of the passwords, and it took awhile to get back in the flow. The Easter holiday is the one reason why I could never be an Adventist again; Take away all of the Investigative Judgement foolishness, and the over emphasis on the Seventh Day worship....even the White issue. The ONE reason why I regret the way I was raised is the loss of Easter in my life. I was raised to believe that it was a "pagen" holiday and only foolish "sunday keepers" were ignorant enough to be fooled by the Catholics into "keeping it". At the same time, we would do all of the "pagen" things of the holiday. Chocolate Bunnies, Colored eggs, Easter baskets, and of course the really healthy candy. Yet, I was in my late 40's before I knew the significance of this most special of days. To have lived so long and never experienced the Horror of a Good Friday, the reflection of a black Saturday, or the total Joy of an Easter Sunday morning, is unthinkable. In so many ways, I feel as though I denied Christ for all those years. Thank God He has forgiven my ignorance! I now make a "big deal" out of telling everyone of the special significance of this day. It is so sad to see the looks on the faces of my SDA family and acquaintences when I tell them. They are so confused and have missed so much. May God's grace call them, as He did me. In His Service Thomas <>< | ||
| Susan_2 (Susan_2) |
This will be my 3rd year attending the annual Ressuraction service, otherwise known as Easter. Yu know, I have actually had non-SDA's ask me if the SDA church even believes in the Ressiuraction. I will answer that it does but the Ressurrection of Jesus is not a very main doctrine of theirs. That the SDA church has its focus not on Christs Ressurection but rather on the coming advent of Jesus, that the first advent of Jesus is not of great promminance in SDA doctrine. Most Christians are quite baffled by that. I think it goes to the SDA understanding of the state of the dead, since they have no assurance of being with Jesus upon their death they only have the ressuraction to look forward to. This is how I view the JW's, too. We all, I'm sure have seen the numerous publication put out by the JW that speek of the wonderful parasdise that soon will be on earth. Without the hope of being with Jesus, like Paul so wonderfully speeks of then the only thing to look forward to is the bodily resurrection. But, at his time of year I am so happy to be able t stand with the folks at church and when the pastor says, "He is risin" the congreation responds loudly and joyfully, "He is risin, indeed". Yes, He is risin, indeed! | ||
| Colleentinker (Colleentinker) |
Our women's Bible study looked closely at the last week of Jesus' life these last two months. We used A Harmony of the Four Gospels by Orville E. Daniel, published by Baker Books. It is absolutely amazing how many of the stories of Jesus' teachings we've heard really happened during that final week. He did not withdraw from active teaching and ministry during that week. Rather, some of his most intense experiences occurred during those last days including his sober teaching to his disciples found in Matthew 24-25 and the corresponding passages in Mark 13 and Luke 21. Also during that last week was his agonized denunciation of the Pharisees and teachers of the law (found in Matthew 23) on the steps of the temple. Today the sermon was the last in a series on forgiveness, and our pastor specifically asked if we, as we enter holy week, had accepted God's forgiveness through Jesus' sacrifice. He recounted what it meant for Jesus to die: what he endured, what he gave up, what God didóand he asked us to deal with the forgiveness issues in our lives. Some of us need to fall before Jesus and accept him as our Savior and Lord. Some of us need to bring long-held hurts to Him and release them to him so we can forgive those who have wronged us. Even in situations where complete restoration is not possible (the one who wronged us may be dead or unrepentant), we can release the sin against us to God, allowing him to deal with that person, and ask him to heal our hearts. I'm praying for all of us here as we enter Holy Week, asking God to help each of us to know him in a new way, to experience his forgiveness and healing love, and to appreciate and understand the depth of his sacrifice for us in a deeper way thatn we have before. I pray that he will protect us from distraction and guard our hearts and minds with his peace. I praise God for Jesus! I praise Jesus for being obedient to the Father and for enduring unfathomable suffering for the world. I praise the Holy Spirit for making Jesus real to us and for bringing us into the presence of the Father. Praise God from Whom all blessings flow! Colleen | ||
| Jerry (Jerry) |
I, too, am struck by the diminishment of Easter. Not as much baffled as dismayed. My wife's church had a special service yesterday, but it had nothing to do with the passion week. She has indicated that it is a "pagan holiday" just as you say. There is nothing so important as the events commemorated by Easter in the Christian faith. There are so many scriptures that make that clear. In a conversation I recently had with a "hard-core" Adventist, I was told that sanctification is achieved by observance of the Law. How sad. We are sanctified by the blood of our Lord, Jesus. We are glorified by His resurrection. We are justified by faith in Him. Again, how sad. This means so little to them. This person cannot accept the possibility of so stunning an accomplishment. "Faith means nothing without the moral backbone of the Law." How sad. In fact, the Law is nothing but a guide to faith. We are nothing, as Christians, without Christ, and him crucified. We are nothing if we try to live by our own goodness and efforts. We are all by the Grace of God. | ||
| Another_Carol (Another_Carol) |
Amen, Just like Paul says; If in this life only we hope in Christ, we are of all men the most pitiable. 1 Cor. 15:19 This is the discourse before this statement. 12But if it is preached that Christ has been raised from the dead, how can some of you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? 13If there is no resurrection of the dead, then not even Christ has been raised. 14And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith. 15More than that, we are then found to be false witnesses about God, for we have testified about God that he raised Christ from the dead. But he did not raise him if in fact the dead are not raised. 16For if the dead are not raised, then Christ has not been raised either. 17And if Christ has not been raised, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins And then this verse in my mind can be nothing other than an answer to Soul Sleep. 18Then those also who have fallen asleep in Christ are lost. Thank you Jerry for your post which pushed me to go to my Bible and search what was meant by verse 19 as I thought I knew being that if we just believe in Christ for what it can do for us in this life we are to be the most pitied. Now I see even a broader meaning in that it makes it quite clear that we will not fall asleep but in fact live. Just as it corroborates with John 3:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believeth in Him SHOULD NOT PERISH but have EVERLASTING LIFE. And that EVERLASTING LIFE begins when? I pray that anyone who reads the Bible to attain truth will allow it to speak for itself. My Hope is in my resurrected Lord because without the resurrected Lord I have NO LIFE. My Lord and Saviour was worshipped the first time in Matthew 28 16Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. 17When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. This I might add was predicted by Jesus John 4:23 Yet a time is coming and has now come when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for they are the kind of worshipers the Father seeks. Is not this first time in spirit? A real disturbing part of that verse is: and some doubted. And hear we are today living what actually happened that day. Some are still doubting. If we should not be worshipping on Sunday why did not Jesus tell the disciples, who in verse 19 are told to go out and teach all nations, Oh you can't worship me today wait until the next Sabbath. 16Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. Notice this happened because Jesus had told them to go there. Do you not suppose being God that He knew in fact that they would worship Him? And then the first commission. Why would anyone want to still worship the Resurrected Lord on the day when He was in the tomb rather than the Day He rose TRIMPHANTLY. Why would you not want to believe in what the Bible says about death? 1 Corinthians 15 54When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: "Death has been swallowed up in victory."[1] 55"Where, O death, is your victory? Where, O death, is your sting?"[2] 56The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law There is only one way to get rid of death and that is not according to keeping the law but believing that Jesus did in fact die so that our sins would be blotted out, making us perfect to stand before a perfect God, thus alowing us to partake of His resurrection for our eternal life. It all happens because of FAITH in what He did not in what we can do because He did it. Looking forward to the most glorious day of the Christian Life Easter, Resurrection Day whatever your name for it is. If it means that because of Him you have life then that is the name you should use. HE IS RISEN INDEED, been there done that also, Carol | ||
| Colleentinker (Colleentinker) |
Carol, I had never seen 1 Cor. 15:19 quite like you explained it, either. It IS an affirmation of our state when we die, not just of our future state after the resurrection. Thank you! Colleen | ||
| Janice (Janice) |
Another Carol, I am not sure that I am following your train of thought with your comment on verse 18 in your post. I guess it is your translation that I wasn't following or maybe I didn't get what you meant by the verse being the answer to the soul-sleep doctrine. Are you saying that souls are asleep or are you saying that this verse cleared up that false teaching? In the KJV it reads: 1Cr 15:20-But now is Christ risen from the dead, [and] become the firstfruits of them that slept. The word "slept" in this verse is koimao and means to be calm, still, quiet, asleep, or TO DIE and is the same word that is used here: 1Th 4:14-For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. I asked several SDAs to explain how Jesus was bringing unconscious souls back WITH him if their unconscious souls were truly not WITH him already, and it is clear to me that the souls will be rejoined to a new resurrected body when Christ returns, and I have asked my SDA sister to explain these verses to me that would seem to very clearly stand in opposition to the soul-sleep doctrine but, as usual, got no response from her than just to say "shame on me" for once again ridiculing such a saintly woman as EGW. I hope that this is what you were saying in your post, and forgive me since I am so tired that I am not really thinking straight. I almost got too hot outside using that push mower in 86 degree weather, and I am feeling pretty light-headed, so, maybe I just wasn't comprehending it all, sorry if I corrected when there was no need. God bless, Janice | ||
| Another_Carol (Another_Carol) |
Janice, You must take the context of verse 18 in light of what is being said in all the previous 6 verses. I know I broke it up some to make a point but I do not say this verse means anything other than if we have fallen asleep in Christ then if we do not believe that He was raised from the dead we are lost. It is paradoxal for those of us who have not had this kind of teaching(soul sleep)to begin to understand why anyone would even want to teach such a thing and the point I was making here is that in fact this is the answer for the fact it cannot be taught because if we have fallen asleep in Christ(died) and we don't believe He is raised from the dead then we are lost. I believe He was raised from the dead and I am not lost because I believe just like John 3:16 says I will not perish but have everlasting life and that life for me begins now. Thank you for taking an interest in making sure you knew what I was talking about. If you are still not sure about what I was talking about I do not believe in soul sleep and I believe this verse confirms that for me. 18 Then they also which are fallen asleep in Christ are perished This the KJV and I don't see any difference in it. Remembering again it is interpreted by the precious 6 verses. I am encouraged by healthy critic, Carol | ||
| Loneviking (Loneviking) |
I guess I'm dense too, as I just don't get it. If you believe in soul sleep, the aforementioned verse seems a perfect text verse. I.E.---if you're dead (no eternal soul) and Christ isn't resurrected, then you won't be resurrected and will never have life again either! That's what I'm seeing out of the text. I can't figure a way to rearrange the text to make it support the idea of an eternal soul........... Speaking of Easter week, I got a kick out of a radio advertisement for a very liberal SDA church. The ad was going on about all of the great Easter celebration stuff---a drama play, a big Easter egg hunt, etc. Then, at the end of the ad, the announcer says 'and this is all taking place on Saturday, the day before Easter at.....' I'm thinking 'O.K., we'll celebrate Easter---the day before!?' Only in SDA land!!! | ||
| Carol_2 (Carol_2) |
I know, only in SDA land. This doesn't exactly fit with this thread, but with what Loneviking just said. I recently had a friend (SDA) that was so impressed with the fact that an SDA pastor "laid hands" on someone & prayed for them. It got me to thinking, (and I worked in a very liberal and gospel-centered SDA church for quite a few years) that it's so sad, something I didn't see while in Adventism, but is so apparent now. Anytime an SDA or an SDA church does something that is so normal and natural in another church like laying on of hands, verbally praising the Lord in church, raising their hands, kneeling at the altar, etc., etc., they seem to be so pleased with themselves and impressed, and seem to think others should be impressed too. Does this make sense to you guys? It's just sad and a little pitiful. Love you all, Carol #2 | ||
| Bmorgan (Bmorgan) |
Yes Carol, I agree with your statement... "Anytime an SDA or an SDA church does something that is so normal and natural in another church like laying on of hands, verbally praising the Lord in church, raising their hands, kneeling at the altar, etc., etc., they seem to be so pleased with themselves and impressed, and seem to think others should be impressed too. Does this make sense to you guys?" Quite frankly, I am tired from looking at, listening to, or hearing about their pitiable state. I do care about their salvation and weep and pray for some of the people I know personally, but truly, I get sick and tired of their arrogance, stubborness and spiritual pride so many of them display. God is Sovereign. Praise His Name. | ||
| Another_Carol (Another_Carol) |
Carol 2, I have seen it done. When I would write things to my son-in-law and say things like Praise God for the way He has worked in my life then I see him start to do it also. I'm not saying he shouldn't but I believe that just as has been said before they take what we do and emulate so that they seem to be like us. Case in point for me. Sunday I was overcome with the urge to raise my arms as we sang as I have seen many people do, but I could not see them do it Sunday because I was on the front row. Many times I would feel like I wanted to but felt like it was only because I say others do it so I didn't but Sunday my arms would not stay down. If I am not making myself clear I did it because Carol was being proded by God not by what others were doing. I'm sorry I don't seem to be making sense. Let me try again. First of all I wanted to make the point that this verse in fact cannot be true if in fact you believe in soul sleep it cannot be supported by this verse if you also believe in the resurrected Lord. The 2 do not mix just like so much of the SDA doctrine. Just like oil and water and new wine skins and old and a new patch on an old garment. One always seperates from the other and with new wine skins and old there is an erruption. I am living that erruption with my son-in-law. This statement is probably not presented right since I wrote it assuming (by the way assuming should never be done, so I am repenting of it)that those who have listened to me would know that I am not a proponent of soul sleep not because I care what happens to me but as I have come to learn in my time hear that it cannot be supported by the Bible. And then this verse in my mind can be nothing other than an answer to Soul Sleep. It should say ; And then this verse in my mind can be nothing other than an answer to; can there be Soul Sleep according to the Bible. For those of you who do not know or remember my story one of the topics my son-in-law and I discussed was soul sleep and I said I am not concerned with what happens to me after I die because my Lord and Saviour has told me He goes to prepare a place for me and if He goes He will come again and I am leaving the details to Him. After saying that my s-i-l says "But it's the truth". I have since found out it is not the truth and another scripture they use and I have heard it with my own ears numerous times from Doug Batchelor that in Acts 2: 29-34 He quotes Acts 2 29"Men and brethren, let me speak freely to you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. And then jumps down to Acts 2: 34"For David did not ascend into the heavens, but he says himself: This is totally taken out of context and if a person is not understanding of sentence structure or use of proper english then it could be disaster, and many times is. I feel like they prey on people who are Bible illiterate and simple people and those who are just to lazy to read the Bible for themselves. I emailed my son-in-law's minister about this and when he could not convince me after I had given him scripture of where and how I felt it was pointing to Jesus sitting at the right hand of God of which David knew before he was dead, he started accusing me of being under conviction for telling my daughter to get a divorce, which as God is my witness I never did. Enough of that on to the thing at hand. So here we have 1 Cor. 15:12-18 and it must all be taken in context. The Risen Christ, Our Hope (2) 12 Now if Christ is preached that He has been raised from the dead, how do some among you say that there is no resurrection of the dead? 13But if there is no resurrection of the dead, then Christ is not risen. 14And if Christ is not risen, then our preaching is empty and your faith is also empty. 15Yes, and we are found false witnesses of God, because we have testified of God that He raised up Christ, whom He did not raise up--if in fact the dead do not rise. 16For if the dead do not rise, then Christ is not risen. 17And if Christ is not risen, your faith is futile; you are still in your sins! 18Then also those who have fallen asleep in Christ have perished. Look at the verses as someone who is speaking about what would be if in fact Jesus was not rasised for the dead. In verse 16 it says -if the dead do not rise, then Christ has not risen. Who are the dead Paul is talking about? And then Paul goes on say in verse 17 looking back to verse 16 then Christ has not risen, He says If Christ is not risen your faith is futile; and you are still in your sins. Looks to me that is what SDA believes because they are still in their sins in that they now believe that since Jesus did it they can too. But my Bible tells me that the only way to be presented sinless is to accept the attonement for me at the cross. After accepting that attonement then I am ready to accept the best gift of all LIFE. If you still don't understand I would be glad to discuss it more. It does not bother me when someone says they do not understand what I am talking about, rather it upsets me more when they say nothing. Thanks for sharing, Carol | ||
| Janice (Janice) |
Thanks Carol, I appreciate you clearing that up, and I did go back later and look at it again, sorry if I was sounding like a "know-it-all" and I do agree with you totally, doesn't the word say something that if we don't believe Christ rose that we have nothing to cling to and that a man without any hope is nothing but miserable? Praise God as I am reading my InTouch monthly devotional which is all about Easter this month and really adds to what Sabra mentioned in her post about the final week of Christ's walk on earth before the crucifixion. I have been learning an Easter song on my way to and from work and just started crying when I got it in my mind what I was actually singing, I thought I would have to pull over on the side of the road. I don't think I will post tonight on the doctrinal errors but will end this post with the words to the song I want to sing. Two guards were posted at the door of the tomb, where they laid my savior on that dark afternoon, No one believed they'd ever see him again, but his work wasn't finished, it was time to begin. And a miracle happened on that three day, Just before the sunrise, the stone was rolled away, And though Peter and John said they saw nothing within, I know his tomb wasn't empty, IT WAS FULL OF MY SIN. Oh, I'm a living witness to my savior's death, Where he bought my salvation with his last breath, And there on the cross, he knew I would fall, Oh, but only his blood would cover it all. And a miracle happened on that third day, Just before the sunrise, the stone was rolled away, And though Peter and John said they saw nothing within, I know his tomb wasn't empty, it was full of my sin. Though Peter and John said they saw nothing within, Though Peter and John said they saw nothing within, I know his tomb wasn't empty, His tomb wasn't empty, His tomb wasn't empty, It was full of... MY SIN...Amen. God bless you, Janice | ||
| Janice (Janice) |
Thomas, I caught your post just before I went to shut down and had to respond about the Easter comment. I sent my mother and sister an Easter card last year and never even got a thank you for it. I then e-mailed my sister and asked her how the SDAs observed Easter Sunday and again got no response. I cannot even begin to imagine how some can truly state that they love Jesus or, like my sister stated in an ugly letter just before suggesting I get professional help, Jesus is my best friend, and not give him recognition as Lord and savior. I just can't comprehend it and feel that it must be very depressing seeing as how they were both born into God's family in a Baptist church and have since forsaken us, and according to all the baptismal services I saw in an SDA church, they pretty much "denouced" ALL of their brothers and sisters in Christ upon becoming an active SDA, and someone correct me if I just stated a falsehood. I saw six people get baptised at once and all of them appeared to be going through some kind of wedding ceremony with all the "I dos and the I wills" flying. The thing that I won't forget though is the denial of ALL other major Christian denominations that observed Sunday as a day of worship and proclaimed us to be taking the mark of the beast, if this isn't of the devil then someone please, please, please tell me just how far one has to go in their sins and false doctrines before we label them as a cult with demonic/satanic influence? The bottom line is this: If we are not about the Father's business and edifying one another in this miserable world then we are working for the ruler of this world, old Lucifer himself, and therefore, you are allowing Satan to use you and therefore, you are satanic and truly under demonic influence. One doesn't have to wear a black hooded cape and do encantations around a camp fire somewhere to be of the devil, amen? Boy, I had better shutup before I get hot here and really go off on a binge, amen? God bless you Thomas and everyone, Janice | ||
| Janice (Janice) |
Just like me to see my typos every time AFTER I post. The song goes "a miracle happened on the third (not three) day", sorry but I seem to do a typo in every post. Love to all, Janice P.S.- Carol, I am like you too in that I would rather someone open up to me with a question as to feel that no one cared enough about what I said to respond to it. There is so much "good verses bad" with this forum, LET ME EXPLAIN quickly. The good is that I am learning, not only about SDA's false doctrines but about the TRUE words of God. I am also meeting my brothers and sisters in Christ that I will spend eternity with and hopefully am helping them bear their burdens. The bad side though is that I am often tired and don't make myself clear, like Carol says, and I sometimes stop and get a take home plate from the deli just so I don't have to spend a lot of time in the kitchen and can spend more time here. As far as my husband goes--he is so wonderful about it all, never complaining about this until someone upsets me and I get up and start preaching kinda and that gets him upset. He is so patient and even brings me a glass of tea or cup of coffee and gives me a kiss and a hug and shoots a game of pool, watches TV or whatever while I sit and type, so, having said that, I did get something tonight to actually prepare for him to eat, last night I made mexican cornbread and homemade vegetable soup, he won't know what hit him to have homemade food two days in a row, ha, ha. | ||
| Susan_2 (Susan_2) |
Eather: Yes, the SDA church does teach Easter is a pagan celebration. I cannot understand how celebrating the ressurrection of Jesus can be pagan, I don't care what day or time the celebration takes place. Here's a summary of my childhood holidays; No celebration was to have even a tad bit of religion attached to it except for Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving was a rather religious sort-of day with my kin and immediate family. We would have huge family gatherings that not only included the relatives but numerous friends, too. We would all spend the day talking about how thankful we are that we live in a country that gives us the freedom of religion that we can woship the Sabbath (oops! I mean on the Sabbath. A Freudian slip Ha! Ha!). An, we would eat beyond full and then later a wild game of vollyball would be happening, some arrousing accordion music would be playing and everyone in my clan who had a portble instrument would bring it for the annual family jam session. I honestly do remember my childhood Thanksgivings wonderfully. However, I did get to do Easter but nly as a secular holiday. My parents taught me that to do Easter as the Christians who believe they are Christians but really they are pagans but they don't know they are pagans, only we knew they were pagans (does that even make sense?) was a sin. So I never got to go to church to celebrate the resurrection of Jesus. I did though get to hunt Easter eggs in my backyard and I got a lot of candy to eat. Christmas was the same way. I was told that to acknowledge the birth of Jesus in a religious service was pagan but that I could pretend the Santa Clause story if I wanted to and I could watch the Roudolph the Red Nosed Raindeer cartoons on t.v., etc. But, never was I to consider any of the special days to be of a Christisn significance at all. Weird, huh? | ||
| Speakeasy (Speakeasy) |
I got a few questions. In the New Testament Acts 5:30,Acts 10:39, Galations 3:13,1 Peter 2:24 These are just a few times that is stated that Jesus died on a tree. When you do a concordence study of what the word tree is in Greek it says it means a Pole,Upright standing. I need some feed back. I DO NOT Deny that Jesus Died for our sins. But how do you talk to unbelievers or lets say people that have a problem with Jesus dying on a Cross( t or T symbol). These people are so strongly against the Cross and stand on what the greek translation of what is ment by "Dying on a Tree". But when I say to these people at least he died for or sins and we as believers (Or I don't) care if he died on a tree or a pole or whatever. We don't celebrate his dying on whatever he died on. We celebrate that HE DIED FOR YOU AND ME. These people will say that this is why you do not see other things that the bible is clearly telling us to do. And the other things "to do" always goes back that we do not see the things about the Law. And one more thing what day do all of us say that Jesus died and was buried and rose from the grave on. I know this last question and the first probably has nothing to with our salvation with the Lord. I was just wanting your input. Praise GOD that we are saved by the work of the Cross. speakeasy | ||
| Speakeasy (Speakeasy) |
Typo problems on the first letter. Please disregaurd the upper letter. Sorry I got a few questions. In the New Testament Acts 5:30,Acts 10:39, Galations 3:13,1 Peter 2:24 These are just a few times that is stated that Jesus died on a tree. When you do a concordence study of what the word tree is in Greek it says it means a Pole,Upright standing. I need some feed back. I DO NOT Deny that Jesus Died for our sins. But how do you talk to unbelievers or lets say people that have a problem with Jesus dying on a Cross( t or T symbol). These people are so strongly against the Cross and stand on what the greek translation of what is ment by "Dying on a Tree". But when I say to these people at least he died for our sins and we as believers (Or at least I do)Don't care if he died on a tree or a pole or whatever. We don't celebrate his dying on whatever it was he died on. We celebrate that HE DIED FOR YOU AND ME. These people will say that this is why you do not see other things that the bible is clearly telling us to do. And the other things "to do" always goes back that we do not see the things about the Law. Am I wrong on this? Does it matter what Jesus died on a Cross or a pole. Just that Jesus died. Or am I wrong?And one more thing what day do all of us say that Jesus died and was buried and rose from the grave on. I know this last question and the first probably has nothing to with our salvation with the Lord. I was just wanting your input. Praise GOD that we are saved by the work of the Cross. speakeasy |
