| Author | Message | ||
| Brad_2 (Brad_2) |
The new commandment that Jesus gave in found in: John 13 34. A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another; as I have loved you, that you also love one another. 35. By this all will know that you are My disciples, if you have love for one another." John 15 12. This is My commandment, that you love one another as I have loved you. 13. Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one's life for his friends. Now compare the new commandment for the new covenant to the greatest commandment for the old covenant. Keep a remembrance of these laws were to be written on their hands and foreheads so that these laws would be in their hearts. Deuteronomy 6 The Greatest Commandment The Great Commandment 1."Now this is the commandment, and these are the statutes and judgments which the LORD your God has commanded to teach you, that you may observe them in the land which you are crossing over to possess, 2. that you may fear the LORD your God, to keep all His statutes and His commandments which I command you, you and your son and your grandson, all the days of your life, and that your days may be prolonged. 3. Therefore hear, O Israel, and be careful to observe it, that it may be well with you, and that you may multiply greatly as the LORD God of your fathers has promised you--"a land flowing with milk and honey. 4."Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one! 5.You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your strength. 6."And these words which I command you today shall be in your heart. 7.You shall teach them diligently to your children, and shall talk of them when you sit in your house, when you walk by the way, when you lie down, and when you rise up. 8.You shall bind them as a sign on your hand, and they shall be as frontlets between your eyes. 9.You shall write them on the doorposts of your house and on your gates. The difference is that in the new we love one another like Jesus loved us. We cannot love or bear much fruit apart from Christ. According to the old covenant they had the law that was to lead they to Christ and part of that law were the Two Great Commandments. John 15 5."I am the vine; you are the branches. If a man remains in me and I in him, he will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing. 6.If anyone does not remain in me, he is like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned (NIV). In the old covenant they were to love God with all their heart, all their soul and their strength as if God was over here and they were over there. In the new covenant Jesus Christ is in us, so if we can love one another like He loved us, and this fulfills loving God with all our hearts, soul and strength and loving our neighbor as self, but in a better way. In the new commandment we do not love others like we love ourselves because we have died to self. A dead man can do nothing, but the new man does love as Jesus did. When we love one another as Christ loved us we love God also because God indwells us. Immanuel means God with us, but with us in the new covenant means closer than just around us or beside us. He indwells us in our Spirit that has being quickened and made alive, now we have been sealed with the Holy Spirit, and by the Holy Spirit into Christ. When I went to a Prophecy Seminar the SDA preacher had me convinced at the time that the mark of the beast was connected to the Ten Commandments because they of the hand and forehead connection. But in the book of Deut. Chapter five the connection is with the two greatest commandments not the Ten Commandments. So if the connection is true that could make the old covenant commandment a connection to the mark of the beast, because it was apart from Christ "only the Shadow or type". I know that if the whole world would love others like themselves it would be a better place and to love God with all their heart, soul and strength. But it would have totally missed out on the gospel message that Christ is to indwell us and apart of Him we can do nothing. Those who have the mark of the beast will try to love their neighbor as themselves but they will fail because they have a stony heart. The way that the old man with the stony heart loves themselves, is not all that good. Some love themselves so much that they cannot stand to see themselves suffer so they commit suicide. If they were to love their neighbor as themselves the same way we would have a problem. Jesus knew what He was doing when He gave a new commandment. He said that what ever we do to the least in the Kingdom we have done it to Him. And by loving one another as He loved us, we love the person and God who indwells in them. It was possible for an old covenant person to live by the two great commands but they had to love from their own strength. The new covenant person has their strength from the Spirit of God abiding within. The Holy Spirit is the Seal of God but the mark of the beast is the antichrist spirit that says I can do it on my own. So they write it in their heart to love others apart from Christ. It is my opinion that the New Commandment fulfills the Two Greatest Commandments for the one who realizes that apart from Jesus they can do nothing. | ||
| Pheeki (Pheeki) |
Very interesting. I especially had to stop and ponder the suicide comment. I had never thought of that before. | ||
| Brad_2 (Brad_2) |
It is far better to love as Jesus did and not as a man with a stony heart as in the old covenant. I just hope some how this would be Pres. Bush's message instead of the love your neighbor as your self. That message maybe good for those who are of a different faith and good for the man with a stony heart that does not believe in God. But they will alway fail without being born of God's Spirit. | ||
| Colleentinker (Colleentinker) |
Brad, I completely agree with your take on the new commandment. It is impossible for us to love one another as Christ loved us without the indwelling Holy Spirit to love through us. Great comparison of the old covenant and new covenant commandments! Colleen | ||
| Sabra (Sabra) |
Brad, That was amazing and God knew I needed that today. I have been attacked by Pharisees on another forum under a 10 commandment thread and that was the perfect word. I hope you don'tmind, I copied and pasted it and signed it Brad on the forum, if you do mind---sorry!! Thank you, Sabra | ||
| Brad_2 (Brad_2) |
Sabra, No problem just let me know where to find the pharisee forum. I would like to see what they have to say about that one. I would like to offer them $1000. if they can prove that the Sabbath was not a Feast of the Lord according to Lev.23:1-3. And that all Feast Days and Sabbath Days would come to an end according to Hos.2:11 | ||
| Sabra (Sabra) |
Oh good luck, they are worse than the SDA's I'll send you a link. | ||
| Brad_2 (Brad_2) |
I'll give them a shot but refuse to waste time with it if they want to keep a stony heart. | ||
| Sabra (Sabra) |
Well, like I said, good luck!  | ||
| Brad_2 (Brad_2) |
Sabra, Looks like I had no kind of luck at all. I got lost in their website. It's not user friendly like this one is. | ||
| Sabra (Sabra) |
It is, you just have to get used to it. You can go to the http://www.worthyboards.com/board/ikonboard.cgi and click doctrinal questions and it will take you to the list and click 10 commandments, the other one is What exactly is Grace. You can do it!!! I need HELP!!! Help a sista out! | ||
| Janice (Janice) |
Sabra, I know you think I am ignoring the worthyboard forum but all I get when I go there is a response in my email inbox after I close out of it, I close out of it more confused with each try to post. I thought you were going to help me and don't say it is easy, for you maybe, but not me. Why can't it be easy as this forum? Add a message is simple enough for me to understand, ha, ha, but it is getting to where I can't walk and chew gum at the same time anymore, I even wake up in the bed at night and get a panic attack because I feel my hair and realize that I have "lost" my hairnet, oh my, is work going to bed with me or what? Janice | ||
| Sabra (Sabra) |
well, they have like 1000 members and a bizillion different topics going so it is a little confusing at first, don't worry, I think the topic is dead and no one is swayed either way, so Romans 14 to us all! | ||
| Brad_2 (Brad_2) |
5{t feel like you the only one. I've been trying to post for two days and if just found out I had to actavate it by clicking on, on the registration E-mail they originally sent me. So okay I actavated it and got a little farther but still haven't figured out how to post a message????? I wrote them and told them that there website is soooo user unfriendly. Defintely not like this one at all. So they have a lot of things to offer maybe them should separtate the forum from the rest and simplify it. | ||
| Brad_2 (Brad_2) |
Janice, Don't feel like you the only one. I've been trying to post for two days and if just found out I had to actavate it by clicking on, on the registration E-mail they originally sent me. So okay I actavated it and got a little farther but still haven't figured out how to post a message????? I wrote them and told them that there website is soooo user unfriendly. Defintely not like this one at all. So they have a lot of things to offer maybe them should separtate the forum from the rest and simplify it. | ||
| Sabra (Sabra) |
hit reply at the bottom of the last message and post in a little box like this one. Then hit reply or preview or save to notepad | ||
| Janice (Janice) |
Thanks Sabra, I drove home in the rain again this evening and when I got here, I found out that Bellsouth is on the fritz again and couldn't get on the internet. I decided to download a disk from MSN and finally got online here. I will be dropping my bellsouth.net email address because I am so tired of getting an automated message when I call to complain that tells me that they are having "technical difficulties" with the internet customers, I finally got online, only to find that my Outlook couldn't connect to the bellsouth server to give me my mail, so, once again I can't get anyone's email that was sent today. I am still working on ways of fixing my Outlook and am very frustrated at this point, so, if any of you have tried to email me, please use the new address of Janice@theLumpkinhome.com or JaniceLumpkin@msn.com and I apologize for not sending out any mail tonight. I am studying in the book of Romans now, and I will be redoing my web site too as soon as I get some more editing done. Thanks for all the helpful hints concerning the site. Bye for now, Janice | ||
| Janice (Janice) |
Brad, Like I just posted, I am doing a study in Romans. I was about to close when I noticed your post about commandments, old and new, and thought I would share with everyone what I found today. It was great, and I wondered why I was just now seeing it. I guess it is part of the seek and find that the Bible talks about, amen. Here it what I found: Romans 2:28 says--He is NOT a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh. 29--But he IS a Jew, which is one INWARDLY; and circumsion is that OF THE HEART, in the SPIRIT, and not in the LETTER; whose praise is NOT of men, but of GOD. I don't know about all of you as you come to read this, but, praise God, I almost had a shouting fit when I saw those two short little verses that spoke volumes to my soul, I would rather have the praise of God than of men anyday, amen? Doesn't it all tie in with what Brad just wrote about "ABIDING IN CHRIST" as the "ingrafted" Jew? I will close by saying that I am so glad that I accepted that plain and simple Bible truth about Jesus so many years ago while in Vacation Bible School, I just repent of having wasted so much of my life not trying to live "worthy of my vocation" and am trying desperately to make up for lost time by praying for my enemies who have encamped round about me and praise God for his grace that has helped me to accept my thorn in the flesh like Paul and keep on growing in the Lord, if God is for us, no one can stand against us, and I will continue to pray for all of my brothers and sisters who did take that extra time to pray and help me overcome this problem. I can see God working it all out for the good as Romans 8:28 promises and will praise God through it all. God bless, Janice | ||
| Marykay (Marykay) |
Hello this is a test God Bless | ||
| Jerry (Jerry) |
<<<sneaks in ìcartoon-tip-toeî style>>> <<<big smile, waves ìhelloî to new board member>>> (at least, I donít remember you before) <<<sneaks out . . . peeks around corner>>> *** whispering *** Psst!! Tell us your story. <<<scampers away>>> | ||
| Lydell (Lydell) |
Welcome Marykay. Glad you found us. | ||
| Colleentinker (Colleentinker) |
Marykay, we're glad you're here! I hope we hear more from you soon! Colleen | ||
| Marykay (Marykay) |
Glad I am here also and sure am glad to see I am not the only one with these thoughts about sda. Hubby is one and can't believe some of the things he comes up with. Heard it all. You will probably hear from me alot. |
