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Freeatlast (Freeatlast)
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 4:34 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

...and Maria Shriver made the sign of Lucifer to signal the masons. In the photo in this month's edition of Pastor Jan's newsletter, the well-connected-to-the-Catholics Maria is waving at her wedding. Arnold also made a sign on Jay Leno twice that would look to you & me like pointing his finger, but Marcussen says it was actually him signaling the Masons that he's willing to be "planted". Gray Davis has also agreed to the plan and is happy to step down. Either way, Catholics take over California.

The objective of this sinister plan is to bring Mexicans (translate: Catholics) into California as part of their world domination plan.

I'm surprised he didn't mention that Maria means Mary in Spanish.

Folks, this Marcussen guy is an ordained, fully credentialed, SDA minister! He is putting out a newsletter and a quarterly under the SDA banner and apparently the organization agrees or it would pull his credentials. I actually wonder if he has a shaved head and a Mini-Me... And they wonder why people use the dreaded "c" word when referring to the SDA organization???

Stay tuned. Phlegm at 11...
Jerry (Jerry)
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 5:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Whew!!!

Gee, and I was worried that we would have no way to shoe-horn a "Jesuit, Masonic, Devil, Alien abduction, sasquatch, mind control, . . . Oh, fill in any other one you want" conspiracy in the California recall story.

owww. . . headache. . . must . . . lie . . . down
Richardjr (Richardjr)
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 5:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is Jan M. still an SDA pastor? If so, where and with what conference is he credentialed with? It is truly hard to believe that any Adventist organization would credential him. His beliefs seem bizarre and even out of sync with Adventist beliefs.
Chris (Chris)
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 7:10 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I don't know that he is is so out of sync with Adventist belief......maybe it depends and when and where you are from. Growing up as a SDA in small town conservative midwestern SDA church I heard this stuff all the time. I can remember SDA Revelation seminar evangelist coming through town preaching about the secret society of Jesuits and how they were sworn to infiltrate all level of education and government. This stuff has been around a long time as is actually quite well accepted in some SDA circles (at least it used to be).
Chris
Freeatlast (Freeatlast)
Posted on Wednesday, September 03, 2003 - 8:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The newsletters are spawned in Thompsonville, Illinois. Anybody know what conference that's in? I'd like to find out for sure if he is still holds SDA pastoral credentials.

He refers to himself as "Pastor Jan", and he publishes these newsletters that make these outrageous claims on behalf of "God's 6,000 year old SDA church". Last month he cried out against the removal of "Seventh-day" in the name for those contemporary SDA's who refer to themselves merely as "Adventists". He copiously quotes Ellen White and refers to her as "prophet". If he's not an SDA pastor then this stuff is even more deceptive than I first thought...
Susan_2 (Susan_2)
Posted on Thursday, September 04, 2003 - 12:51 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

An Historical (Hysterical) SDA lady in my neighborhood had ordered me Pastor Jan's newsletters. It is totally warped. In every issue he tells you he knows this and that secret information but if you want to know what he knows then you have to send him money and he will mail the video to you. He also quite often tells the readers that he knows a lot more than he is going to print because now is not the time for all the truth he knows to be made public, always for the safety and well being of the ever faithful and loyal sda's out there who get his trash. I finilly couldn't take it anymore and wrote to him telling him I was raised sda and went to sda schools, etc. but now I hold my earthly church membership at a local Lutheran church. I never got another newsletter or any other mail from him. I understand he is the felloow behind the 666 Beast billboards that are along some of the freeways. Bill O'Reilly featured the billboards on the program several years ago on his Most Rediculous Item of the Day segment. I think it is very sad about the lady in my community who gets all Pastor Jan's trash as she sends him money and then she goes to the local charity to eat lunch with the poor and homeless everyday because she can't afford groceries and then she complains to anyone who will take time to listen that the groups that give the free lunch everyday to anyone who wants to eat claim to be Christian but she knows they really aren't Christian because they don't have the Sabbath and they serve meat. I finilly told her if she doesn't like the food then she should fix her own lunch at home but she told me she can't afford it so from what I have observed she drinks the fruit juice they give out daily and she eats the vegetables and the salad. It's very sad to me because she sends Pastor Jan offerings so he can get out the truth. Also, this lady is sueing our puny little town because she tripped and fell on a sidewalk downtown and needed stitches in her chin and she wants finincial compensation from the city because according to her the sidewalk had not been properly maintained. She won't even go into the local sda church anymore because it's just mostly all Catholics that go there anyway who are pretending to be sda's so they can lead the real sda's down a path of darkness. The entire thing is very sad.
Bmorgan (Bmorgan)
Posted on Friday, September 05, 2003 - 4:33 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What! Jan Marcussen? Watching Jay Leno!!!!...?

I wonder what else he is doing behind the curtains?...
Freeatlast (Freeatlast)
Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 2:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here we go with this month's edition... The Seventh-day Adventist church is under covert attack by "planted" catholics masquerading as SDA's. They are infiltrating the church in order to taint the pure SDA doctrines and pull them back into Babylon.

Apparently, Pastor Jan has visited two SDA churches, one in the east and one in the west. Both of these churches had a club called "Secret Sisters". Because these clubs were in two different churches separated by 3000 miles, Pastor Jan is convinced that these "Secret Sisters" must be a worldwide cartel of Jesuit infiltrators. These diabolical women actually *gasp!* put gifts into a box anonymously, and then these gifts somehow make their way to other members of the secret sisterhood. Pastor Jan supposes these secret sisterhood to be a form of SDA "nuns" who have "cloistered" themselves in the hallowed halls of "God's 6000-year-old SDA church".

Katie bar the door... I'll bet those pesky Jesuits will start slipping pork into the potlucks soon. They have already infiltrated the Pathfinders and Review & Herald according to Pastor Jan.

I am not making this stuff up.
Susan_2 (Susan_2)
Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 4:20 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

At the local sda churh they have a secret sister club. There also is a lady in my neighborhood who identifies herself as an Historical Adventist (not an Hysterical Adventist, btw). She won't attend the local sda church because it is mostly Jesuits attending there and the red sda's know this and don't go there anymore. I told my mother that but she said eve if they are Jesuits then at least they are presenting the sda truth so she'll keep attending. My mom said it in jest, she really doesn't believe they are being Jewssuit infilterated.
Thomas1 (Thomas1)
Posted on Wednesday, September 17, 2003 - 4:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Free at last,

You ARE joking about the Secret Sister thing, aren't you? I mean, no one who claims to be a legitimate Minister of the Gospel is THAT far of the pier! That has been around for fifty years, that I know of. Everyone I knew as a kid was part of it, and they wouldn't even "cross" the road (let alone themselves) in fear that some one wold accuse them of even KNOWING a Catholic, let alone being one!
Colleentinker (Colleentinker)
Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 2:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wonder what Marcussen would say about the Secret Santas my son's a cappella choir has every holiday season? For sure they disseminate non-health foods to each other! (Chocolates, cookies, and large packs of gum or Life Savers seem to be preferred gifts.)

I wonder if Marcussen has ever had a psych evaluation? This all sounds a bit 'round the bend--but I absolutely believe you, Freeatlast!

Colleen
Freeatlast (Freeatlast)
Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 2:19 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh yeah, I assure you, this guy is for real. Check out this link:

http://www.thisgalaxy.com/thisgalaxy.htm

He publishes and distributes a book called "National Sunday Law" for which he requests donations in every newsletter. He has a 15-video series in which he claims to have evidence of all this that I'm dying to see, but you have to spend $390 for 1,000 "National Sunday Law" pamphlets in order to get your hands on the videos. He also publishes his own SDA quarterly.

When we come to your FAF meeting sometime, I'll be sure to bring a few of Pastor Jan's newsletters for you to see for yourself.

This guy is WAY out there!
Melissa (Melissa)
Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 2:30 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have that book. B had a whole box of them which he claimed he was "storing" for a friend. He said he did not agree with "everything" in the book, but I have a copy of it. I've never actually read it.
Susan_2 (Susan_2)
Posted on Thursday, September 18, 2003 - 9:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The Hysterical Adventist lady in my community had the videos. She keeps inviting me to her apartment to watch them. Fortunatelly, I have a life to live and haven't yet found the time to get over to her place to watch them. The local SDA church stocks the book, National unday Law by Jam arcussian in its literature rack in the narthax. That is the same fellow who puts up the 666 billboards along the freeways with a toll-free # to call to find out the truth of the number 666. Bill R'eilly featured one of those billboards on his program once as his Most Redicolous Item of the Day. I think the guy is scary, and spooky.
Derrell (Derrell)
Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 7:36 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thompsonville Illinois is in the Illinois Conference which is part of the Lake Union. Jan Marcussen is no longer a credentialed Pastor. I was in the meeting (and voted yes) at the West Frankfort Illinois church, where he had his membership, when he was disfellowshiped.
Derrell (Derrell)
Posted on Saturday, September 20, 2003 - 8:03 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, Freeatlast, Jan is definitely out there. The set of videos, that several of you have reffered, to is most likely one called "The Roman Catholic Attack." One of Jan's followers (a bunch of zealots) came out to the television network,where I am employed, and attempted to take the place over so that he could air that set of videos. I had to physically eject him from the premesis, and he got in his car, which had one of those big speakers on it (the ones that politicians used to drive up and down the street with), and he drove out of the driveway yelling, "The Romans are coming! The Romans are coming!" We had him arrested and he spent 30 days in the county lock-up. They also confiscated his car.

These kind of people are just a few steps away from being another David Koresh situation.
Denisegilmore (Denisegilmore)
Posted on Sunday, September 21, 2003 - 4:07 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh dear, if this weren't so sad, it would be funny.

This is Crazy!! And also want you all to know that I have been called a Jesuit. Now I'm gonna have to go to the website above "http://www.thisgalaxy.com/thisgalaxy.htm" that Freeatlast put up and see EXACTLY what it is that I'm supposed to be. Hmmmm, this could be interesting.

Colleen, yeppers, 'secret santas' ......all the same thing me thinks..:)

Lots of love in Christ.

Denise
Susan_2 (Susan_2)
Posted on Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 8:57 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I guess this is as good of a thread as any to post this concern on mine. My elderly mom is obsessed with world news. I wish she'd just cancel cable because Fox News is on the t.v. at her house 24/7. She is convinced that Americns are about to loose al their religious freedom if they are Christian. The Moslems are going to take over. All Christians are going to be persucutted an will suffer under the Mosem reign but those true to the Sabbath will suffer the most. This has just been getting worse and worse. It's been coming on just since my dad passed away wich will be one year ago next month. I thinkshe just spends her days alone thinking about awful things and she lets her fears get carried away. I try my best to spend a lot of time with her but it never seems to be enough.
Freeatlast (Freeatlast)
Posted on Tuesday, September 23, 2003 - 6:55 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Derrell, thank you for the info! Very enlightening, and shows even more clearly how outrageous this guy really is. I was mortified to think he might still be an ordained SDA minister.

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