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Hallanvaara
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Post Number: 12
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Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2004 - 1:42 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I史e mailed several messages to Dale Razlaff but haven另 got any answer? What叫 wrong? The e-mail address is in his webpage and seems to work fine.

I卡 like so much to order his book "Sabbath in Christ", but I don另 want to give my VISA number into Internet.

But now it seems to be impossible to reach him and get answers to my questions. And I like to have Proclamation, too.

Have you any suggestions what I should do?
Rey_cantu
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Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2004 - 10:08 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

call him at 6235729549

or

1800 355 7073
i talked to him on monday.
these phones work.
Colleentinker
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Posted on Tuesday, February 24, 2004 - 4:52 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hallanvaara, keep trying Dale's email address: dale@ratzlaf.com Just be sure you don't put two f's on Ratzlaff in the email address.

If he doesn't answer right away, keep trying. I know how busy he is, and it may take a few days before he gets back to you. Email will work--just keep trying!

Colleen
Rey_cantu
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Posted on Thursday, February 26, 2004 - 7:43 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

testing the program
Susan_2
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Posted on Friday, February 27, 2004 - 2:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I am studying Sabbath in Christ now. It is a hard read for me.His other books are easier for me to understand. Sadly when I am with my SDA kin I make sure the book is not in plain view. I feel that it would seem that I am ashamed of what I believe when the reality of it is that I don't want to hear my relatives give me lip about not following "the truth".
Hallanvaara
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Posted on Monday, March 01, 2004 - 1:40 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Susan. If you are reading Dale叫 book you are in a road which leads to truth. It叫 not the truth which your SDA relatives believe but it叫 the truth Jesus gave us. I haven另 read the book myself yet, but I have read Proclamation and his writings about Sabbath are so wonderful.

You maybe aren另 strong enough yet to confess this to your relatives and show the book but I pray your strenght will increase. Don另 hide your truth and what you believe. God want叫 us to be straight and truthful to everybody.

It叫 not relatives or friends or family, it叫 only Jesus. Be true to Him.

Btw. It叫 amazing how cruel SDA`s are to Dale. I史e read "Letters to editor" and almost in every SDA letter is written: "Go to hell...You are doomed..." and so on. And Dale NEVER in his article doom anybody, only the teachings and false in those teachings.

Tuija
Susan_2
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Posted on Thursday, March 04, 2004 - 12:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear Hallanvaara and others, I am weary of my SDA loved ones giving me drama over not being SDA. My boozer, Sabbath-school teaching cousin has realized that when she starts her SDA preaching to me I walk away. So now her tactic is to ask me to go with her "to get a relaxing glass of wine". I fell for her line once. It won't happen again. No sooner tthan getting up a good speed on the street, thus my being unable to escape she started in while I was strapped into the seatbelt. Around a year ago after my mother realized that since I was not home on Sunday mornings, therefore I was probably attending church somewhere (she was right) and when she asked me if she was right about that and I told her I was she yelled at me in a question/accusation sounding way if i am now taking classes in how to persucate "commandment keepers in the last days". I walked out of her house in disguest and dismay. The older I get the more the SDA denomination fits the criteria of cult in my reckonig.
Hallanvaara
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Posted on Friday, April 02, 2004 - 12:04 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh...this is frustrating. I haven另 got any answer from Dale. And yes, I have written the e-mail address right, only with one f.
Telephoning from Finland to USA is expensive so e-mail is very handy way if...

Why people have e-mail addresses and possibilities to order something via internet if everybody on the other end seem to be dead?!

Sorry. I叮 rather fed up now. It seems to me now that "Sabbath in Christ" is beyond my reach.

Tuija
Chris
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Posted on Friday, April 02, 2004 - 7:39 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hallanvaara, try going directly to LAM Publishers (Part of Dale's website) and ordering from there. The direct link is pasted below. I hope this helps.

http://www.ratzlaf.com/Qstore/Qstore.cgi


Chris
Spokenfor
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Posted on Friday, April 02, 2004 - 10:04 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Hallanvaara,
If you would like to send me your snail-mail address I would be happy to order you a copy of Sabbath in Christ with my credit card and have it shipped directly to you in Finland. I know you have been trying to get this book for awhile and I understand how frustrated you must be. I have ordered several from him via internet/credit card in the past and he usually ships them out pretty quickly.

(Message edited by admin on February 28, 2007)
Hallanvaara
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Posted on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 3:54 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Spokenfor,
that叫 very nice of you. I mail to you.

Thank you.

Tuija
Spokenfor
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Posted on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 7:30 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You are most welcome Tuija, it's my pleasure!
Spokenfor
Colleentinker
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Posted on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 3:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hallanvaara,

Have you tried going to the website store address that Chris posted above? If that doesn't work for you, I'd like to know, because that suggests that there's something that needs to be fixed in some way. Even if you get the book from Spokenfor, I'd like to know if that web address will work for you.

Thanks!

Colleen
Hallanvaara
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Posted on Monday, April 05, 2004 - 11:37 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Colleen,
yes I史e visited that website, no problem. It works fine.
The problem is that I don另 want to give my visa number into internet and I tried to ask Dale can he send me the book so I can send him money by mail.
I guess it叫 safe to do it... but still... Maybe I叮 over careful because I史e heard so many stories about stolen cardnumbers.
Colleentinker
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Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 8:24 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for the explanation, Hallenvaara! I remember now that you said earlier that you wanted to avoid using your VISA number. Just for what it's worth, however, I believe Dale's site is secure; he's been selling books via the internet for several years, and I've not heard of any problems related to stolen card numbers or identity theft.

Still, I understand your concern!

Colleen
Colleentinker
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Posted on Tuesday, April 06, 2004 - 8:49 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Flyinglady, I'm responding to you here insteaad of in the "test" thread. It is indeed amazing that all we need is Jesus! I do continue to pray for you. It's good to see you here again!

Colleen
Flyinglady
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Posted on Wednesday, April 14, 2004 - 9:35 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Colleen,
I am getting braver and writing when I have something to say. You will see me responding in various places. Thanks for your prayers. I am still looking for a church.
I have relatives in Riverside, CA and when I visit them I want to meet with the FAF group that weekend. These relatives were raised in the SDA church but do not practice Adventism though some say they are SDA. I pray for them. I will let you know when I go.
Hallanvaara
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Posted on Thursday, April 15, 2004 - 1:48 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I finally got an answer from Dale and I叮 very happy about it. Maybe afterall it was something wrong with my mailing systems. I don另 know.

But I mailed Dale in this week and got his answer next day.

And I really want to support his precious work he is doing. I encourage myself and give a donation through my VISA.

Tuija

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