| Author | Message | ||
| Plain Patti |
Hi, Gang, Just a little project here. I am looking for those little "facts" that SDAs believe that have no basis in Scripture. Not doctrine, exactly, but just little bits of Ellen-colored Bible trivia that no other denomination knows. I will start us off: 1. There was a special resurrection for Moses 2. Adam and Eve kept the sabbath 3. Jesus spoke His most scathing rebukes with "tears in His voice." 4. The one lost sheep is this fallen earth; the 99 are unfallen worlds who are watching our every move 5. Satan is the "King of Tyre" mentioned in Ezekiel 28 6. Eve's first sin was leaving Adam's side etc. Wrack your brains, and let them trivia fly. I appreciate your input! | ||
| Maryann |
Hi Patti, When I was a kid, I used to go out and gaaaaze at the sky, looking for the little fist sized cloud that Jesus was in. I used to wonder where the large, LARGE flat rock was the platform that the SDAs were going to give the "loud cry" from. I think that I got that from one of the Bible story pictures! What ever the case, I still believed that! I always thought that a pet boa constrictor type of snake in heaven would be cool because it would be able to fly me around on it's back after my own wings got tired of flapping! Did any of you think this kind of stuff or did I have an overactive imagination? Was this what you were looking for, Patti? Maryann | ||
| Richard, Jr. |
Hi Plain Pattie, 7.The water that was turned into wine was grape juice not wine. | ||
| Steve |
Is this SDA or from my other readings? 8. Before the flood, the surface of the earth was covered with jewels and gemstones. These were covered in the earth after the Great Flood. | ||
| Steve |
One that I actually spent hours teaching others. 9. God is in a place just behind the open space in the Orion Nebula. I used a lot of Pop Astronomy to teach this, including some interesting statements from famous astronomers. I included in my presentations slides of the Orion Nebula, the Orion Constellation, and the Horsehead Nebula in Orion. Each of these can be used to show some beautiful things about God, and the Second Advent of Jesus Christ. But I used to take them literally, and actually would gaze at the stars (Orion Constellation) thinking that I was looking at the Abode of God. But now I realize that He said He would set up His temple inside our bodies. We are the Abode of God, not some far-off place in a distant part of the universe. GOD WANTS TO DWELL AMONG US. Steve | ||
| Steve |
10. Extra-terrestrials (people on other worlds) are watching the drama on earth. AND 11. Their view of God DEPENDS on whether people can remain perfect, without Jesus Christ, and vindicate the 10 commandments, er . . . God's character . . . uhm . . . well, they're the same thing, aren't they? 12. "Good old Enoch" was walking around on Saturn. 13. Saturn has 7 moons. (There probably are no SDA astronomers except for EGW. And when she looked, God put His hand over the other moons.) | ||
| Colleentinker |
One of the most astonishing to me is Ellen's statement that after Christ leaves the Holy Place to go into the Most Holy, Satan takes his place upon the throne, and those who aren't sealed in the investigative judgment will believe they are praying to God but will really be praying to Satan. I'm sorry I don't know where that quote is. I also remember agonizing over our occasional Thanksgiving turkeys with my middle-European family after learning that those who eat meat will not be translated when Jesus comes. | ||
| Question |
The investigative judgment doctrine must be the crown jewel of SDA folly. No other Church on the face of the planet teaches or accepts this nonsense. This doctrine is at the heart of Adventism even more so than the Sabbath. | ||
| Jude the Obscure |
Reply: And based on pride, wounded pride at that. In other words, what do you do when Jesus "makes a fool out of you" by not showing up like we "ordered" him to do. Disobedient God! Well, let's go out into the corn field and scratch our head. Maybe we can RESCUE our pride by inventing a preposterous tale. Jesus DID NOT SIT DOWN AT THE RIGHT HAND OF THE FATHER as Hebrews says he did. Instead, he went into the vestibule and waited for one thousand eight hundred and forty four years before he went in to see his father. That way, don't you see, the whole Christian world had it wrong all along. And WHO had it right? Who are the ONLY ONES to get it right? I'll let you guess. Hint: Think RESTORED pride. Jude | ||
| Steve |
I agree Question (wonderful screen name), The Investigative Judgment is a horrible doctrine. And to think I believed it! Yes, it is at the heart of SDA doctrine more than the Sabbath. (Although I now believe the Sabbath, and other teachings, follow logically from the idea of the IJ.) As Jude says, what a disobedient God! He doesn't do what we say, so we'll shut Him up in the Holy of Holies until we become perfect. He can't come back until then! So I guess another "SDA fact" is: God can't come back until we say He can. | ||
| Richard, Jr. |
l4. The wearing of wigs will result in insanity. l5. The S.D.A.'s are commandment keeping people. | ||
| Jude the Obscure |
Steve, Your comment -- "God can't come back until we say He can" -- is sooooo on-target I can't believe it. Bull's eye! Wow! You really cut to the chase on that one. Great insight. Jude | ||
| Maryann |
16...The eating of animal products and spices will aroused "base desires". (Does this mean that if no animal products are served on board, that there could safely be male/female submariner's with no impurity? And "Veggie Pastors" would never fall either into sexual sin?) | ||
| Jude the Obscure |
Maryann, Two observations: 1. There is zero SCIENTIFIC evidence for the statement, "The eating of animal products and spices will aroused 'base desires.'" 2. There is zero SCRIPTURAL evidence for it. Why concern yourself with it? "The kingdom of heaven is not meat and drink." Follow Jesus Christ. Jude | ||
| Maryann |
Hi Jude, You missed something in the exchange!!!!;-( Patti started this "thread" with: "Hi, Gang, Just a little project here. I am looking for those little "facts" that SDAs believe that have no basis in Scripture. Not doctrine, exactly, but just little bits of Ellen-colored Bible trivia that no other denomination knows. I will start us off:" Since 1 - 15 has already been posted, I posted my EGW "myth"! of: "16...The eating of animal products and spices will aroused "base desires". (Does this mean that if no animal products are served on board, that there could safely be male/female submariner's with no impurity? And "Veggie Pastors" would never fall either into sexual sin?)" Just a little understandable mis-understanding. How about you post 17? ;-) Maryann | ||
| Jude the Obscure |
Oops, sorry. | ||
| Question |
The General Conference in session is the highest athority God has placed on this earth. Does the Holy Spirit know this? BLASPHEMY!!! | ||
| Maryann |
Hey Question, How about making a "STATEMENT" about yourself. You've posted 3 very short burst in the last two days. I think it would be nice to get to know the person behind the burst! How about it. Were/are you a convert or a 5 generation SDA? If you're not an SDA, how long have you been out? What's your story? Have you posted here under a different name? That's great if you are interested in contributing with an open mind to the Holy Spirit, no matter which side of the issues you stand! Maryann :-) | ||
| Question |
Hello Maryann: I am currently SDA, but only because I do not care to bother with removing my name from the rolls. I am a Christian of no denomination. I choose not to use my own name here because I have seen first hand what problems that can create for yourself. I have been out of the Church for 10ish years now, and I continue to amaze myself as to how stupid I was for following a cultic movement. I did not think it could happen to me. I thought to be part of a mainstream cult you needed to pass out flowers in an airport. I have friends and family inside the Church and I look at them like souls on a sinking boat at sea. I have been here from the beginning of this web site, and I am one of the first ones to post here. I have been gone for a while doing other things. Just purchased a computer for home, so maybe I can become a regular, if I "fit in with the established gang". we'll see. Thanks for asking. | ||
| Jude the Obscure |
Q, I think you'll fit in fine and hope you choose to. |
