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E.G. White: The Inspired Prophet? Is she or is she not "The Inspired Prophet? Seventh-day Adventists, you and you alone view Ellen G. White as an inspired prophet. Younger, newer, recently converted, Seventh-day Adventists often saying that some of us, misrepresent the official position of the SDA church regarding Ellen G. White.ís inspiration. They are in fact being deceived by their own church! The truth is that this is still the official position, but they are sending out mixed signals. Prior to 1980, (when news of Whiteís plagiarism was first published by Walter Rea) ALL ADVENTISTS viewed White as an inspired prophet, (am I right here?) However, now that is it an absolute proven fact that White plagiarized 80-90% of her "inspired writings, including almost all her visions, modern SDA leaders, are quickly watering down the churches historic stand on Whiteís inspiration. The current official is actually identical to what it has always been, as you will see below in the 1997 baptismal vows and church doctrines. But they are now making statements like: "Whiteís writings are not a replacement of the Bible. Our standard for doctrine is the Bible only!" Such statements are: lies, deception and a radical departure from both the current official position of the SDA church AND the historical foundation of the very denomination itself. Donít be deceived new SDA convert! Such changes are also occurring in the Mormon church who are watering down the long standing claims of Joseph Smithís inspired translation of the Book of Mormon and the Jehovahís Witnesses 100 year old claim that the Watchtower magazine is inspired. These three groups, the Adventists, Mormons and Jehovahís Witnesses share these qualities: 1.were born at the same time in history (1800ís) 2.all claimed to have direct inspiration from God at the time they were founded 3.all had the "spirit of prophecy" 4.all have watered down their inspiration claims in modern times I now INVITE you to view the data: SDA's must vow Ellen G. White as inspired at their baptism! Official SDA Baptismal Vows (13) Don't believe it? Check it out: Official SDA Creed Vow #8: "I accept the Biblical teaching of spiritual gifts, and believe that the gift of prophecy is one of the identifying marks of the remnant church." Vow #11: I know and understand the fundamental Bible principles as taught by the Seventh-day Adventist Church. It is my purpose, by the grace of God, to order my life in harmony with these principles Vow #13: people of every nation, race, and language are invited and accepted into its fellowship. I desire to be a member in this to be a member in this local congregation of the world church. Don't believe it? Check it out: Official SDA Creed 27 Fundamental beliefs of Seventh-day Adventists Seventh-day Adventists accept the Bible as their only creed and hold certain fundamental beliefs to be the teaching of the Holy Scriptures. These beliefs, as set forth here, constitute the church's understanding and expression of the teaching of Scripture. Revision of these statements may be expected at a General Conference session when the church is led by the Holy Spirit to a fuller understanding of Bible truth or finds better language in which to express the teachings of God's Holy Word. #1 The Holy Scriptures The Holy Scriptures, Old and New Testaments, are the written Word of God, given by divine inspiration through holy men of God who spoke and wrote as they were moved by the Holy Spirit. In this Word, God has committed to man the knowledge necessary for salvation. The Holy Scriptures are the infallible revelation of His will. They are the standard of character, the test of experience, the authoritative revealer of doctrines, and the trustworthy record of God's acts in history. Support is found in these Bible passages: 2Peter 1:20,21: 2Timothy 3:16,17: Psalms 119:105: Proverbs 30:5,6: Isaiah 8:20: John 17:17: 1Thessalonians 2:13: Hebrews 4:12 #2 The Trinity There is one God: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, a unity of three co-eternal Persons. God is immortal, all-powerful, all-knowing, above all, and ever present. He is infinite and beyond human comprehension, yet known through His self revelation. He is forever worthy of worship, adoration, and service by the whole creation. Support is found in these Bible passages: Deuteronomy 6:4: Matthew 28:19: 2Corinthians 13:14: Ephesians 4:4-6: 1Peter 1:2: 1Timothy 1:17: Revelation 14:7 #3 The Father God the eternal Father is the Creator, Source, Sustainer, and Sovereign of all creation. He is just and holy, merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and abounding in steadfast love and faithfulness. The qualities and powers exhibited in the Son and the Holy Spirit are also revelations of the Father. Support is found in these Bible passages: Genesis 1:1: Revelation 4:11: 1Corinthians 15:28: John 3:16: 1John 4:8: 1Timothy 1:17: Exodus 34:6,7: John 14:9 #4 The Son God the eternal Son became incarnate in Jesus Christ. Through Him all things were created, the character of God is revealed, the salvation of humanity is accomplished, and the world is judged. Forever truly God, He became also truly man, Jesus the Christ. He was conceived of the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary. He lived and experienced temptation as a human being, but perfectly exemplified the righteousness and love of God. By His miracles He manifested God's power and was attested as God's promised Messiah. He suffered and died voluntarily on the cross for our sins and in our behalf. He will come again in glory for the final deliverance of His people and the restoration of all things. Support is found in these Bible passages: John 1:1-3 and John 1:14: Col. 1:15-19: John 10:30: John 14:9: Romans 6:23: 2Corinthians 5:17-19: John 5:22: Luke 1:35: Phil. 2:5-11: Hebrews 2:9-18: 1Corinthians 15:3,4: Hebrews 8:1,2: John 14:1-3 #5 The Holy Spirit God the eternal Spirit was active with the Father and the Son in creation, incarnation, and redemption. He inspired the writers of Scripture. He filled Christ's life with power. He draws and convicts human beings; and those who respond He renews and transforms into the image of God. Sent by the Father and the Son to be always with His children, He extends spiritual gifts to the church, empowers it to bear witness to Christ, and in harmony with the Scriptures leads it into all truth. Support is found in these Bible passages: Genesis 1:1,2: Luke 1:35: Luke 4:18: Acts 10:38: 2Peter 1:21: 2Corintians 3:18: Ephesians 4:11,12: Acts 1:8: John 14:16-18 and John 14:26: John 15:26,27: John 16:7-13 #6 Creation God is Creator of all things, and has revealed in Scripture the authentic account of His creative activity. In six days the Lord made "the heaven and the earth" and all living things upon the earth, and rested on the seventh day of that first week. Thus He established the Sabbath as a perpetual memorial of His completed creative work. The first man and woman were made in the image of God as the crowning work of Creation, given dominion over the world, and charged with responsibility to care for it. When the world was finished it was "very good," #17 "The gift of Prophecy: One of the gifts of the Holy Spirit is prophecy. This gift is an identifying mark of the remnant church and was manifested in the ministry of Ellen G. White. As the Lord's messenger, her writings are a continuing and authoritative source of truth which provide for the church comfort, guidance, instruction, and correction. They also make clear that the Bible is the standard by which all teaching and experience must be tested. Support is found in these Bible passages: Joel 2:28,29: Acts 2:14-21: Hebrews 1:1-3: Revelation 12:17: Revelation 19:10" Discussion: So you can see that SDA's must vow to follow the official "27 Fundamental beliefs" of their church. One of these beliefs is that Ellen G. White was an inspired prophet! (there is no such thing as a prophet who was not inspired!) If you don't like this fact, look for another church! Don't believe it? The Great Controversy claims White is inspired! Ellen G. White, 1975 paperback edition: Back cover of book boldly makes this comment about White in bright yellow lettering: "ELLEN G. WHITE (1827-1915) was the author of 55 volumes translated internationally into 100 languages with close to 20,000,000 copies in circulation. She is considered to have been inspired by God. Many of her prophecies about world events and the modern-day condition of man have already been dramatically fulfilled. Her insights into the fields of medicine and nutrition are being progressively substantiated by scientific research. Her words have lifted mankind and have helped bring the truths of Christianity to uncounted millions the world over." Authors (Whites) introduction: pages 13-14 "At this time (20th century) the special endowment of the divine grace and power is not less needful to the church than in the apostolic day. Through the illumination of the Holy Spirit, the scenes of the long-continued conflict between good and evil have been opened to the writer of these pages. From time to time I have been permitted to behold the working, in different ages, of the great controversy between Christ ... and satan." p. 13 "As the Spirit of God has opened my mind the great truths of His word, and the scenes of the past and the future, I have been bidden to make known to others that which has thus been revealed" p.14 In 1867 Ellen said: "Although I am as dependent upon the Spirit of the Lord in writing my views as I am in receiving them, yet the words I employ in describing what I have seen are my own." (EGW, Selected Messages, 3 bks. (Washington: RHPA, 1958‚58‚80), bk. l, p. 37) In 1876 she was to say: "In ancient times God spoke to men by the mouth of prophets and apostles. In these days He speaks to them by the Testimonies of His Spirit." (EGW, Testimonies for the Church, vol. 4, pp. 147‚48. Testimony 27; 1876.) Placing herself and her writings on an increasingly elevated level, she said in 1882: "If you lessen the confidence of God's people in the testimonies He has sent them, you are rebelling against God as certainly as were Korah, Dathan, and Abiram." (EGW, Testimonies for the Church, vol. 5,p. 66. Testimony 31; 1882.) These claims had grown, with the passing of time, until she was able to outdo herself in 1882: "When I went to Colorado I was so burdened for you that, in my weakness, I wrote many pages to be read at your camp meeting. Weak and trembling, I arose at three o'clock in the morning to write you. God was speaking through clay. You might say that this communication was only a letter. Yes, It was a letter, but prompted by the Spirit of God, to bring before your minds things that had been shown me. In these letters which I write, in the testimonies I bear, I am presenting to you that which the Lord has presented to me. I do not write one article in the paper, expressing merely my own ideas. They are what God has opened before me in vision-the precious rays of light shining from the throne." "What voice will you acknowledge as the voice of God? What power has the Lord in reserve to correct your errors and show you your course as it is? ... If you refuse to believe until every shadow of uncertainty and every possibility of doubt is removed, you will never believe. The doubt that demands perfect knowledge will never yield to faith. Faith rests upon evidence, not demonstration. The Lord requires us to obey the voice of duty, when there are other voices all around us urging us to pursue an opposite course. It requires earnest attention from us to distinguish the voice which speaks from God." (EGW, Selected Messages, bk. l, p. 27.) Ellen G. White wrote under "inspiration" the following: In "Life Sketches of Ellen G. White," as published by the Adventists, we have this language relating Mrs. White's "vision" of the Sabbath day. "Elder Bates was resting upon Saturday, the seventh day of the week, and he urged it upon our attention as the true Sabbath. I did not feel its importance, and thought that he erred in dwelling upon the fourth commandment more than upon the other nine. But the Lord gave me a view of the heavenly sanctuary. The temple of God was opened in heaven, and I was shown the ark of God covered with the mercy seat. Two angels stood one at either end of the ark with their wings spread over the mercy seat and their faces turned toward it. This, my accompanying angel informed me, represented all the heavenly hosts looking with reverential awe toward the law of God ;which had been written by the finger of God. Jesus raised the cover of the ark, and I beheld the tables of stone on which the Ten Commandments were written. I was amazed as I saw the fourth commandment in the very center of the ten precepts with a soft halo of light encircling it. Said the angel, 'It is the only one of the ten which defines the living God who created the heavens and the earth and all things that are there‚in."' (Pages 95 and 96.) Mrs. Ellen G. White. Mrs. White says, "In the ark was the golden pot of manna, Aaron's rod that budded, and the tables of stone, which folded together like a book. Jesus opened them, and I saw the Ten Commandments written on them with the finger of God. On one table were Four and on the other six. The four on the first table shone brighter than the other six. But the fourth, the Sabbath commandment, shone above them all; for the Sabbath was set apart to be kept in honor of God's holy name. The holy Sabbath looked glorious‚a halo of glory was all around it. I saw that the Sabbath commandment was not nailed to the cross. If it was, the other nine commandments were; and we are at liberty to break them all as well as to break the fourth. I saw that God had not changed the Sabbath, for he never changes. But the pope had changed it from the seventh day to the first day of the week; for he was to change times and laws." ("Early Writings of Ellen G. White," page 33.) Again on page 65 of the same book Mrs. White says, "The pope has changed the day of rest from the seventy to the first day." Official SDA statements of inspiration for Ellen G. White: 1.E. E. CLEVELAND: "I believe in the Testimonies. MRS. WHITE'S WRITINGS ARE THE WORLD'S Only Inspired Bible Commentary. They Constitute the most serious challenge to Christian Living That Has Come To The Church Since John's Patmos Revelation..." E. E. Cleveland, At One Time Assoc. Sec., Ministerial Assoc., Gen. Conf. SDAís. As Quoted In "Facts And Com Meets About The Spirit Of Prophecy", P. 14 2.STANLEY HARRIS: "...and yet, my dear friends, SHE DID ONE OF THE GREATEST WORKS THAT I HAVE EVER KNOWN SINCE JOHN THE REVELATOR. SHE'S TO ME ONE OF THE GREATEST PROPHETS THAT HAVE EVER Lived. Why.? Because SHE HAD THE SAME GIFT THAT Daniel HAD..." -- Stanley Harris, cassette tape "Greatest Prophet Since John",from God's Last Call, tape #811, SDA pastor. 3.RAYMOND COTTRELL: "ELLEN WHITE REINTERPRETS DANIEL for our time. And because I fully believe and am convinced that God spoke to and through Ellen White, I accept her writings 100%. I accept Ellen White's reinterpretation, her approval of the Adventist interpretation of the heavenly sanctuary, the Investigative Judgment and 1844, because I accept her as an inspired writer..." -- Raymond F. Cottrell, in talk given for Association of Adventist Forums, Loma Linda, CA shortly after the Glacier View meetings. 4.SDA SABBATH SCHOOL QUARTERLY: "THE BIBLE AND THE WRITINGS OF ELLEN WHITE ARE INERRANT..." -- Feb. 11, 1978, Sabbath School-Quarterly; teacher's Edition, p. 112 5.OFFICIAL SDA POSITION, 1928: "As Samuel was a prophet of Israel for his day, as JEREMIAH WAS A PROPHET OF ISRAEL in the days of captivity, as JOHN THE BAPTIST came as a special messenger of the Lord to prepare the way for Christ's coming, so WE BELIEVE THAT MRS. WHITE WAS A PROPHET TO THE CHURCH OF CHRIST TODAY." -- Official position of the SDA Church taken in 1928. 6.LOUIS VENDEN: "I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT HERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE DEGREE AND QUALITY DIMENSION OF THE INSPIRATION OF ANY BIBLICAL WRITER AND ELLEN WHITE...I believe that the Desire of Ages, for example, is just as high in quality or degree of inspiration as the Gospel according to Luke...What is the best way to keep it all in perspective and end up with ELLEN WHITE BEING FOR THIS CHURCH WHAT LUKE WAS for his generation and not one whit less in contribution and AUTHORITY." -- Louis Venden, as quoted on cassette tape "The Wilson Committee-Rea On Ellen G. White" 7.GLACIER VIEW DOCUMENT: "...HER AUTHORITY TRANSCENDS THAT OF ALL NON-INSPIRED INTERPRETER' OF THE SCRIPTURES..." -- Cassette tape 8/23/80, Pacific Union College, in a discussion o Glacier View with Charles Bradford and Philip Follett. Follett was quoting from official Glacier View document: "The Relation of Ellen White's Writings in Doctrinal Studies" 8.SDA BOOK: "Elder I. H. Evans, the General Conference representative at the conference declared: 'When the statement from Sister White is read, I am sure that the majority of our brethren will feel as we feel tonight - that THE LORD HAS SPOKEN, AND WE WILL OBEY."'-Quoted in "The Invisible Irishman", p. 484, by Merlin Neff 9.ALDEN THOMPSON: "Second, I began to realize how creative ELLEN WHITE HAD BEEN IN INTERPRETING THE OLD TESTAMENT. AS I COMPARED HER INTERPRETATIONS in Patriarchs and Prophets with Scripture, I FOUND THEM MUCH MORE UNDERSTANDABLE THAN THE BARE OLD TESTAMENT NARRATIVES...I liked what Ellen White did, but upon reflection I decided that I had probably been slighting the Bible in favor of Patriarchs and Prophets..." -- Alden Thom son, SDA pastor and professor at Walla Walla College, as quoted in "Adventist Review" 12/17/81, article entitled "The story of a pilgrimage", p. 7 10.QUESTION: Do Seventh-day Adventists regard the writings of Ellen G. White as on an equal plane with the writings of the Bible? Do you place her in the prophetic class with such men as Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel and Daniel? 11.ANSWER: That we do not regard them in the same sense as the Holy Scriptures...We have never considered Ellen G. White to be in the same category as the writers of the canon of Scripture. 12.SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST LEADERS Claim THAT ELLEN G. WHITE "HAS EQUAL AUTHORITY WITH THE BIBLE" AND BIBLE WRITERS AND PLACE HER IN THE SAME PROPHETIC CLASS WITH "JOHN THE REVELATOR, JEREMIAH AND DANIEL" 13.MORRIS VENDEN: "I'd like to take this position, that if you do not believe in the gift of prophecy, based on what the Bible has to say on it, that you don't believe in the Bible ...The primary purpose of the gift of prophecy in relationship to scripture is to confirm Scripture truth. WE TOOK THE POSITION LAST TIME THAT THE GIFT OF PROPHECY HAS EQUAL AUTHORITY WITH THE BIBLE AND EQUAL INSPIRATION WITH THE BIBLE." -- Morris L. Venden, Cassette tape #MY-312 "Church Body Building". Venden was specifically referring to Ellen G. White and the gift of prophecy in the Seventh-day Adventist church. 14.RAYMOND COTTRELL: "The Bible speaks to all the world; the writings of Ellen White were addressed primarily to the remnant church. Herein lies the only significant difference between them. THE PERSON WHO LISTENS TO BOTH with an open mind WILL HEAR THE SAME VOICE SPEAKING THROUGH BOTH, WITH EQUAL AUTHORITY." -- Raymond F. Cottrell, as quoted in "What Ellen White Has Meant to Me," p.60 15.RON GRAYBILL: "THE QUALITY OF INSPIRATION OF ELLEN WHITE IS EQUAL TO THAT OF THE BIBLE WRITERS..." -- Ron Graybill, at that time Assoc. Sec. EGW Estate, in talk given at Southern Missionary College 9/27/80 16.KENNETH WOOD: "ELLEN G. WHITE WAS INSPIRED IN THE SAME SENSE AS WERE THE BIBLE PROPHETS.'' -- Kenneth H. Wood, Editor "Review" as quoted in RH 9/4/80, p. 15 17.DON NEUFELD: "SHE WAS INSPIRED BY GOD AS WERE THE BIBLICAL WRITERS..." -- The late Don 18.Neufeld, Assoc. Editor "Review" as quoted in "What Ellen White Has Meant to Me,", p. 157 19.ROBERT OLSON: "I believe that BOTH ELLEN G. WHITE AND THE APOSTLE PAUL WERE TRUE PROPHETS WHO WROTE UNDER THE INFLUENCE OF THE HOLY SPIRIT. MY REASON FOR BELIEVING IN THE INSPIRATION OF ONE IS IDENTICAL WITH MY REASON FOR BELIEVING IN THE INSPIRATION OF THE OTHER."- Robert Olson, Sec. EGW Estate, as quoted in "What Ellen White Has Meant to Me," p. 165 20.D.A. DELAFIELD: "INSOFAR AS ELLEN WHITE'S ROLE IN THE CHURCH IS CONCERNED-- WHETHER PASTORAL OR CANONICAL- I think we must here give pause and rethink the acceptance with ease of Ford" proposition. In his forum talk at P.U.C. HE INDICATED THAT ELLEN WHITE'S ROLE WAS PASTORAL NOT CANONICAL. This is a gross perversion of the truth...The real conflict and issue today is this: ARE SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTISTS BEING CONDITIONED TO VIEW ELLEN WHITE AS PASTORAL AND NOT CANONICAL? Shall we accept the view that a Seventh-day Adventist theologian is more dependable than a Seventh-day Adventist prophe t? I highly respect many of our Seventh-day Adventist theologians. I have sat at their feet and been taught by them. I admire and respect them highly. I would like to remind you, however, that you can search the Bible from Genesis to Revelation and you will not find a single text marking out theologians as having the gift of the Holy Sprit. The Scriptures indicate however, that prophets have a gift of the Holy Spirit. ELLEN WHITE HAD THAT GIFT AND SHE WAS CANONICAL INSOFAR AS DOCTRINAL INTERPRETATION AUTHORITY IS CONCERNED..." -- Letter from D. A. Delafiel trustee of the EGW Estate, to P. C. Drewer, June 24, 1981. Note: Delafield's letter was tampered with and the phrase that EGW was "canonical insofar as doctrinal interpretation" was deleted. 21.ROBERT PIERSON: "No excuses are made for her contributions...I speak these words after nearly forty years of denominational service...HER WRITINGS HELP US UNDERSTAND THE BIBLE ..." -- Robert Pierson, former President, General Conference of SDAís, as quoted in "What Sister White Has Meant To Me" and quoted in "Christianity Today" 8/29/75 22.PHILIP FOLLETT: "...THE WRITINGS OF ELLEN WHITE ARE INSPIRED IN THE SAME SENSE AS THE BIBLE IS INSPIRED..." -- Taken from cassette tape "What Happened At Glacier View", PUC, August 23, 1 980 23.ROBERT OLSON: "Thank you for your letter of February 6, in which you made reference to Elder Walter Rea's meeting in Glendale, California,. I think you have somehow gotten the wrong impression of that meeting, because it took no particular courage on my part to vote the way I did. All of the votes of the committee were unanimous. There was no problem with any of the actions that were taken. When we acknowledged that Ellen White had engaged in a certain amount of literary borrowing, WE WERE NOT DIMINISHING HER AUTHORITY AS A PROPHET in the least. The brethren here in the General Conference do recognize that most of our people do not understand how inspired writings were developed, NOT ONLY IN THE CASE OF ELLEN G. WHITE, BUT ALSO IN THE CASE OF THE BIBLE Authors..." -- Letter from Robert Olson, Secretary, EGW Estate, to Eryl A. Cummings, February 21, 1980 24."Our position on the Testimonies (Mrs. White's writings) is like the keystone to the arch. Take that out and there is no logical stopping place till all the special truths of the message are gone. Nothing is surer than this, that this message and the visions (of Mrs. White ) belong together" (Review and Herald, Supplement, August 14, 1883). 25.They state further that her writings should "be received, the same as were the messages of the prophets of old. As Samuel was a prophet to Israel in his day, as Jeremiah was a prophet to Israel in the days of captivity, as John the Baptist came as a special messenger of the Lord to prepare the way for Christ's appearing, so we believe that Mrs. White was a prophet to the church of Christ today. And the same as the messages of the prophets were received in old days, so her message should be received at present times" Review and Herald, Oct 4, 1928. 26."Seventh‚day Adventists hold that Ellen G. White performed the work of a true prophet during the seventy years of her public ministry. As Samuel was a prophet, as Jeremiah was a prophet, as John the Baptist, so we believe that Mrs. White was a prophet to the church of Christ today." THE ADVENT REVIEW & HERALD 10/4/1928 27.Mrs. White herself states, "In these letters which I write, in the testimonies I bear, I am presenting to you that which the Lord has presented to me. I do not write one article in the paper expressing merely my own views. They are what God had opened to me in vision-the precious ray of light shining from the throne" (Testimonies Vol.5, p. 67)."If you lessen the confidence of God's people in the testimonies (Mrs. White's visions and dreams)He has sent them, you are rebelling against God" (Testimonies, Vol. 5, p. 66)"In ancient times God spake to men by the mouth of prophets and apostles. In these days He speaks to them by the Testimonies of His Spirit...The Lord has seen fit to give me a view of the need and errors of His people" (EGW, Testimonies, Vol. 5, p. 661). 28."God was speaking through clay. In these letters which I write, in the testimonies I bear, I am presenting to you that which the Lord has presented to me. I do not write one article in the paper expressing merely my own ideas. They are what God has opened before me in vision the precious rays of light shining from the throne." VISIONS OF MRS. E. G. WHITE TESTIMONY 31 p. 63 29."We believe she has been empowered by divine illumination to speak of past events which have been brought to her attention with a greater minuteness than is set forth in ANY EXISTING RECORDS, and to read the future with more than human foresight." ([any existing record includes the Bible to Adventists. They actually view the writings of White to be higher than the Bible, although they would deny such] Publisher's preface, The Great Controversy) 30.Erwin, the President of the General Conference of Seventh Day Adventists, affirmed the proposition in an actual debate that "the visions of Mrs. E. G. White are the revelations of God." 31."When I send you a testimony of warning and reproof, many of you declare it to be merely the opinion of Sister White. You have thereby insulted the Spirit of God." E. G. WHITE TESTIMONIES Vol 5 p. 661 32."Those who are reproved by the Spirit of God should not rise up against the humble instrument. It is God, and not an erring mortal, who has spoken to save them from ruin." TESTIMONY FOR THE CHURCH Vol 3 p. 257 33."A week after her first happy vision Ellen received a second vision in which God called her formally to work for Him as a prophet." MOVING OUT Unit 4 p. 115 34."In ancient times God spoke to men by mouth of prophets and apostles. In these days He speaks to them by the testimonies of His Spirit...The Lord has seen fit to give me a view of the needs and errors of His People." (EGW, TESTIMONIES, Volume 5, p 661) 35."God was speaking through clay. In these letters which I write, in the testimonies I bear, I am presenting to you that which the Lord has presented to me. I do not write one article in the paper expressing merely my own ideas. They are what God has opened before me in vision the precious rays of light shining from the throne." VISIONS OF MRS. E. G. WHITE TESTIMONY 31 p. 63 36."When I send you a testimony of warning and reproof, many of you declare it to be merely the opinion of Sister White. You have thereby insulted the Spirit of God." E. G. WHITE TESTIMONIES Vol 5 p. 661 37."Those who are reproved by the Spirit of God should not rise up against the humble instrument. It is God, and not an erring mortal, who has spoken to save them from ruin." TESTIMONY FOR THE CHURCH Vol 3 p. 257 38."Seventh‚day Adventists hold that Ellen G. White performed the work of a true prophet during the seventy years of her public ministry. As Samuel was a prophet, as Jeremiah was a prophet, as John the Baptist, so we believe that Mrs. White was a prophet to the church of Christ today." THE ADVENT REVIEW & HERALD 10/4/1928 39."A week after her first happy vision Ellen received a second vision in which God called her formally to work for Him as a prophet." MOVING OUT Unit 4 p. 115 Ellen G. White was a false prophet: Colossians 2:18 "Let no one keep defrauding you of your prize by... taking his (her) stand on visions he (she) has seen inflated without cause by his (Ellen White's) fleshly mind" (NASB) Order Walter Rea's book: "The White Lie" | ||
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Joshua, Morning! :-)) Thanks for the work you put into that! I am grateful to REST in CHRIST ALONE! HE is all I need; HIS TESTIMONY is Enough!! I am finally free from the FEAR that I am "rebelling against God" in disagreeing with EGW...:-)) The charge that you are involved in the "very last deception of Satan" if you questioned the "testimonies" of EGW, I now think is actually Satanic in itself--in the FEAR it generates and the FOCUS it takes away from our ASSURANCE in CHRIST ALONE! Grace always, Cindy P.S. I just got off the phone with a friend from the East coast...(staunch S.D.A.). I said it will be interesting to see how it all turns out as far as the "specifics" go when Christ returns... He came back, saying, "We KNOW how it will turn out!... We have it all down in a book!" (meaning the "Great Controversy" book with it's end-time events schema--the Sabbath keepers being persecuted by the Sunday keepers...). I sensed at this time it was useless to argue...:-)), so I just ended the conversation amicably with my assurance in Jesus' Finished work! |
