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Flyinglady
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Posted on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 4:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Praisegod,
I prayed for you as I read your post, that God will surround you and your companions with His angels and fill you with the Holy Spirit. I will pray for you every day you are gone. Give us an update when you get back.
You will be blessed.
God is awesome.
Diana
Debandhenry
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Posted on Saturday, June 19, 2004 - 7:50 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dear fellow christians,

I am keeping a journal of each of our names and prayer requests as I sometimes can't remember all the names and requests and then hold that journal up to God in prayer.

I thank each of you for your prayers for my son and I.

Praise God, traveling mercies for you and the group, you will indeed have a lot to share with us when you return.....God speed. And, KME I will say a special prayer Monday morning for your friend also.

With God all things are possible,
Deb :-)
Colleentinker
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Posted on Monday, June 21, 2004 - 10:47 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Praisegod, I am also praying for you and for your colleagues involved with this trip. Spiritual warfare is real, and I believe one of the essential functions of the body of Christ is intercession for one another. A friend of mine commented recently that Jesus said we are to pray for workers to reap the harvest which is ready to be gathered. She said that she believed that some of those workers are peopple who will pray for those on the "front lines", so to speak.

We will be praying for you, Praisegod (I realize you're already gone and may or may not see this), and we'll look forward to hearing from you.

Colleen
Kme
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Posted on Monday, June 21, 2004 - 10:59 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Praisegod, I am also praying for you and you colleagues. I have seen spiritual warface in action in my own family. It is definetly real!

Thank you Deb and everyone else for praying for my friend today. I have not yet heard how the sentencing went.

Praying for all.

Have a blessed day.

Kme
Cindy
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Posted on Saturday, June 26, 2004 - 10:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I ask for your prayers for myself and my husband, Richard. We have recently started attending a seemingly wonderful new-to-us Baptist church (oh, aren't we so cautious after Adventism!) and Sunday School class. We have been asked to give our "testimony" about Adventism tomorrow morning!

This is a big step for my husband because, although we have not attended Adventist churches for almost 4 years and have been going to various other denominations' for worship, we have not gone "public" over our differences with Adventist doctrines, in part because the cognitive dissonance we lived under in trying to preach what we did not believe in was a big factor in leading to some very crazy living for both of us! We have yet to have our SDA membership dropped; it has been hard enough trying to convince certain family we are not completely antinomian because we deny Sabbath-keeping as necessary for salvation.

Anyway, pray God's Spirit of humble boldness will be with us and the truth of JESUS alone will be evident. The class has about 30-35 people,some who already have told us of their Adventist connections thru neighbor and/or work relationships. (We live in a heavily populated Adventist area).

Thanks in advance

grace always,
cindy
Busymom
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Posted on Sunday, June 27, 2004 - 3:35 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Cindy, I am praying that you will say the words Jesus wants you to and that the Holy Spirit will guide you.
Susan_2
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Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 - 1:44 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Please, pray that I can find employment SOON! I have been putting in a lot of job applications and I know I am a good worker and an asset to any company. I just need to get the job and then proving myself worthy of the position is a natural. My bills come to way more than my money. I have been relying on charties for food. My youngest child is diagnosed schtzphernic, Tourettes Syndrome, ADHA, anti-social personality, OCD, etc. I had got disability or him since he was a little boy. In fact, the checks still come in my name because the doctors won't declair him responsible enough to manage his own money. He recently turned 18 and I have to endorese the checks, cash them and give him the money which he then blows within several days. If I don't do this he goes totally wild, breaking everything he can break, putting holes in the walls, threatening to kill everyone and anyone that he doesn't like that immediate minute and then finilly realizing killing is not an option so he gets out the kitchen knives and starts slashing his arms all into shreads saying he'll kill himself. So, I just hand him over the money and the bills don't get paid and he runs around with his anti-social friends doing anti-social things and causing me no end of worry and concern. Funny thing is he does not look like the anti-social teenagers we see around. He dresses very nice, has a nice haircut and looks regular. In that way he does not cause atttention to himself. He is not streetwise and I don't thnk he could last long if I told him to pack and leave. Anyway, please pray. Pray that I have wisdom on knowing what to do.
Flyinglady
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Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 - 4:58 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Susan,
I prayed for your son as I read your post. It must be so hard for you to see him as he is.
Have you thought of going to "Tough Love" to handle him better?? I will continue to pray that you get a job and that God will show you how to handle your son. He loves your son more than you do.
Our God is awesome.
Diana
Tealeaves
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Posted on Tuesday, June 29, 2004 - 6:18 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cindy,
you were in our prayers... howdid the testimony go?

And everyone, thanks for the prayers about the pregnancy center and the ultrasound machine. Update: we don't have the ultrasound machine yet, but Gd has provided the money needed to pay for the training for two nurses (also pretty expensive). The training will take a while, at least 6 months, so we;ll be working on the Ultrasound fundraising during the meantime. God is really working in this ministry!
Colleentinker
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Posted on Wednesday, June 30, 2004 - 10:43 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for the update, Tanya. We'll keep praying about the ultrasound machine.

Susan, I am praying that you'll get the help that you need, and that God will provide for you.

Colleen
Cindy
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Posted on Wednesday, June 30, 2004 - 7:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tealeaves/Tanya,
Thanks for asking... I think it went well (although it was fairly emotional for us!) We had a number of people ask questions, some more aware than others as to the REAL doctrines behind the outward appearance of Adventism.

There are many committed Christians at that church (the "merely" Christian type! what a refreshing relief!)

My husband and I plan to continue worshipping there, so this may be an on-going process as we get to know more people. I know that we personally can use their friendship and support!

grace always,
cindy
Flyinglady
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Posted on Wednesday, June 30, 2004 - 9:21 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tealeaves,
Thanks for the update. I continue to pray for that ultrasound machine for you, for the 2 Kims, the sons of D&H, Susan's son, Colleen's SDA friend who needs a job, the friend of Pheeki who is in jail. Did I miss anyone???
I have a praise as it is an answer to prayer. I invited my younger sister to my re baptism tonight and she came. She needs to be put on the prayer list.
God is awesome.
Diana
Colleentinker
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Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 9:24 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'll pray for her, Diana. How many siblings do you have? Are any of them Christians? How many are Adventists?

Colleen
Flyinglady
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Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 2:15 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There are 8 of us. Five sisters, that includes me, and 3 brothers. We were all raised in SDA schools except for my brothers. Mom put then in public schools when the oldest one was in 6th grade. I say raised SDA because Mom got us up to go to church, arranged the ride, but never went herself. Sometimes my Dad would go and sometimes he did not. I am the only one that went to church for a long time, until my divorce. All the others had stopped going for unknown reasons.
They have not told me and I have not asked. As I have said before, about my brother in Montana, he goes to the Messianic Jewish services and is studying the Alpha course with his wife at the Assembly of God church. The brothers are the younger ones and the one in Montana is the oldest of them. The youngest brother, in Florida, discovered all the stuff I am learning now about 8 years ago on his own, studying the Bible and doing research. He told me about what he was learning. I did not criticize him, but told him I would pray for him. I was too sick with chronic fatigue syndrome to comprehend what he was telling me. I called him when I discovered about EGW and we talked on the phone for 2 hours about the things we had learned. This brother is now thinking about finding a church to attend and possibly being re baptized. This brother has joined this Forum and one day I will see his post on there. The middle brother is the one that had 2 boys that went to Loma Linda Academy until the summer the youngest took a history course at the local high school and LLA would not accept the transfers. Our sister who lives near the middle brother went to the academy with my brother and his wife to talk to them. This sister knows a lot about education. She worked at UCR. After that episode my middle brother took his boys out of LLA.
So right now, I am the only one who is a Christian. Two brothers are coming along as God works with them and I continue to pray for the others. Just pray for all of them. God knows who Diana's brothers and sisters are.
My oldest sister was so happy when I told her I was not claiming to be SDA any more. She never liked EGW. Second sister tells me she has a minister friend of a Christian church who told her about the Sabbath rest, but she still believes in the SDA Sabbath, though she is not practicing adventism. The third sister, when I told her I was not longer SDA, wanted to talk to the teacher she works with part time, at La Sierra College, and get some literature to send to me. I told her not to, as I did my own research. She does not practice adventism though she did say she believes most of what the SDA church teaches.
I do not know how my middle brother feels about adventism as I have not told him a thing yet.
So, that is my family. Both our parents are dead as is our oldest brother.
The first three sisters and the middle brother live in Riverside, CA. You may have heard of my brother in law. He is a judge in Riverside (the first latino judge there) and my sister, his wife, has been mentioned in the newspaper for various things she has done.
That is more than you asked and I can talk a lot. I love my family very much but I have to let God and the Holy Spirit work on them.
Just pray for all of them.
Diana
Tealeaves
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Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 2:39 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What I find especially sad about many who are disillusioned with their SDA experience is that they have been so poisoned against other CHristian churches that they think it is safer to drift away from God entirely than to leave the SDA church and search for a closer walk with God in a different church.
I know several people who are in this very boat. Let's pray for them, and for what we can best do to point them to the true Christ!
Flyinglady
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Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 3:54 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I had a hard time going to another church on Sunday. That is until it dawned on me after reading the Bible and praying a LOT, that I am worshiping God while in church and I am not worhipping the day. I can worship God every day, the sabbath rest, and that is what God wants. So, now I go to church on Sunday morning and Wednesday evening to worship God.
I pray for all SDAs, current and past, that they will come to know the Bible sabbath rest.
I praise God for His sabbath rest.
Diana
Sabra
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Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 5:31 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Susan, how is the job search going? I'm praying for you.

Cindy--I'm so glad you found a church and that your testimony went well.

Diana, Praise God for your sister! God is drawing your whole family! How awesome!

Tealeaves, Praying you get that ultrasound machine soon!

Please pray for us!!! I feel like I'm losing my mind! Things are going well for us here in Nashville, financially, but that is about it!

I am driving 100+ miles a day to work, leaving at 5:30 two days a week and at 6:30 the other 3 and not getting home until 6 or 7 except Fridays-I get home around 1:30. I'm exhausted all of the time. The middle school here has turned out to be a nightmere! Really rough and some really bad kids there. We haven't been able to find a church here.

In addition to all of this, my kids are constantly telling me they want to go back to Chattanooga. We were in church 3 times a week--minimum, usually more. We were very involved, kids too.

This past week they were having camp so we went down there because my youngest daughter wanted to go.

As soon as we walked in the back door of the sanctuary I started crying and cried through the whole service!

Pastor Ron preached about faithfulness. To God, to the church-being plugged in, etc. Said the devil has his church scattered all over the US and asked if we are going to go after money or be faithful to our church!

I don't know if I came back to Egypt or if God wanted me to come back here or if I didn't wait on Him there or what in the world I am supposed to do now!

The way I feel right now, I'd rather move into a trailer park and work at Walmart and go back.

We have no family here, we do there, we are here simply for my job and house.

I know I can be compulsive. I'm going to fast and pray.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Prayers are extremely neccessary! Help!

Sabra
Flyinglady
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Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 9:28 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sabra, I prayed for you as I read you message. God will let you know what to do, in His time. I like things done in my time, but I do not get my way very often.
After my Mom died I wanted to be near blood family. I lived in Virginia. I have family in Florida, Montana, California and Nevada. The SDA pastor was a really good pastor. I told him something one time and his answer was it will only come with prayer and fasting. So I fasted and prayed every Sunday. I told God I would like a job in Nevada and I got it. I am not working at that job now, but it made the transition much easier. I know you said you would pray and fast and God will let you know what to do.
I want to tell all of you about an answer to a prayer I never prayed. I called my oldest sister, in Riverside,CA, tonight to tell her some good news. She was not home and her daughter, who lives with her, asked me to tell her the good news. The good news is that I do home health and work prn at a local hospital. Today I was supposed to work about 5 hours at the hospital and that fell through. I had one home health patient and she was sick, so I could not work with her. I came home and all afternoon I am talking to God, saying you know my financial situation, you know I have not had that many patients on my case load this week, so thank you for the money to take care of my financial obligations. Early evening I went into my bedroom and there on my bed is the mail I picked up yesterday. I took it into the front room and in the bundle is a letter from my first mortgage company. I had refinanced my house and the first mortagae was paid off. Inside the envelope was a very nice sized check. It was sitting on my bed all afternoon while I was praying. Thank you God for taking care of my finances. So I tell my niece all about it. Then God took over. Out of my mouth came the words, did your Mom tell you I am no longer SDA. My sister did not raise her children SDA. Then I was able to tell her what the gospel is, Jesus Christ, and about the things I have learned about the Sabbath and the 10 com. We discussed these things for over 45 minutes. I am grinning from ear to ear because God used me.
I have not prayed for this niece or her sister, but I am now.
My niece is an RN in Riverside. She told me that one of the ladies with whom she works is married to a minister who left the SDA church. She said the lady told her is was difficult and I was able to explain to her why it was difficult to leave. Then I told her about the Evangelical Free Church in Redlands and the FAF meeting every Friday evening. She said she would remember to tell the lady about it.
So I am extremely happy tonight because God is so good.
So Please add Linda and Cynthia to your prayer list. God is working with each member of my family, even the ones I forgot to put in my prayers.
We do have an awesome God,
Diana
Susan_2
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Posted on Thursday, July 01, 2004 - 10:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sabra, how can you even afford the gasoline for such a long work commute? As for me, I hope to start with an agency doing in-home care for the infirm and elderly. Actually, I have everything for my California K-8 teaching cirtificate except I yet need to pass the math and the English on the C-BEST. I would like to study for the test, pass it and do subsitute teachng here in the local schools. It is interesting what you say about attending church on Sundays. As I've said numerous times as a kid the religion I was being raised in never made sense to me. I actually was taught that it is a sin to go to church on Sundays. I hve yet to figure out how going to church on a Sunday causes someone to not keep the 7thy-day holy as it is two completely different periods of time. I recently got repramaded for going to a "Sunday-keeping church". I had the nerve to ask how come it is o.k. for SDA's to have church on Sunday but no one else. The person asked what I was talking about. I mentioned all the church on Sundays I had to go to while at Monterey Bay Academy, church on Sundays a campmeeting, the VOP and the FFT church meetings that are on Sundays, let alone watching Mark Findley and Doug Batchlar on t.v. on Sundays but I was told off with total disgust in voice that when SDA's have a religious service on Sundays they are not "keeping Sunday" but when the "Sunday keepers" have church on Sundays they are "keeping Sunday" and that is the difference and the Sunday-keepers are wrong and the Sabbath-keepers (only the SDA Sabbath-keepers, it is implied) are right. It is so convoluted and I gag every time. I hope and pray for all your special needs and I especially hope the ultrasound machine will soon be a reality. BTW, my mom went to La Serria. My cousins son recently became a doctor through LLU. His daddy is a professor up at PUC. Oh, the plot thickens in the life of Adventism!
Colleentinker
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Posted on Friday, July 02, 2004 - 10:02 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sabra, I'm praying that you will know God's will and will have quietness and patience to hear His direction. You said you moved to Nashville for your job and the house. Is your husband's job part of the picture? I remember months back that we were praying for him and for you ( in fact, I still am), and I wondered if there are issues related to all that in this move to Nashville.

Certainly God's will is for you and your kids to be in fellowship with other believers. Ask God to show you what you need to know, learn what you need to learn, and be willing to change whatever needs to be changed. Ask Him to do in you whatever needs to be done.

I really feel for you and can relate to that grinding, relentless fatigue and deadlines that will not budge. But God is faithful, and He will place you where he wants you! Surrender, trust, and praise are the essentials of this life of faith!

Susan, what you have said about Adventists really not accepting other Sabbatarians as being God's true "remnant" is so true. Ironic, isn't it?!

With prayers for you both, Susan and Sabra,
Colleen

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