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Vchowdhury1
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Posted on Friday, July 23, 2004 - 4:22 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've heard the word Sabbatarian mentioned often in literature, on other websites, and in this forum. Can anyone explain to me the difference between a Sabbath-keeper and a Sabbatarian? I'm confused.
Cindy
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Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2004 - 12:02 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Vchowdhury1!

I think the words are synonomous (Sabbath-keeper=Sabbatarian).

Sabbatarians are those who believe the Sabbath command (as given in Mt Sinais' Old Covenant, the "Ten Commandments") is still a valid, binding command for New Covenant believers.

They do not see Jesus as the true fulfillment of this Sabbath REST... Jesus as our final resting place where we worship TODAY, and every day!

I think the term Sabbatarian implies a more legal way of looking at a "sabbath"; this is not just taking a day off to "relax"...there is a spiritual "obedience" involved in their thinking. The belief that they need to follow those Old Covenants' precepts, however tightly or loosely they may interpret them...

So, in reality, there are 7th-day Saturday Sabbath-keepers who are "Sabbatarian"--Adventists--who believe that they are at least keeping the "right" day!

But there are also those who believe the day was changed in the New Covenant to Sunday in honor of Jesus' resurrection. These too are "Sabbatarian", but 1st-day Sunday 'sabbath-keepers' instead of 7th-day Saturday 'sabbath-keepers'...

I am so grateful to find my rest always and whenever, not in a day, but in a Person, Jesus Christ!

grace always,
cindy
Susan_2
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Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2004 - 3:05 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As someone who is/was a bonified member of the Seventh-day Baptist church I want to make very clear that there are Sabbattarians who uphold Christ first. The SDB's do observe the seventh-day day Sabbath as sacred time and they do hold their religious meetings and fellowships on Satudays. However, they promote Christ first. The pastor at the SDB church I attended was a teacher at the local Chritian school, the only "Sabbath-keeper" at the school, eithor staff or students. I have always heard the SDB's say they want to share the good news of the gosple first and then if people want to attend a seventh-day church that is and always has been and always will be secondary to the gosple of Christ. The pastors son had to work all night every Friday night, thus could not make it to church on Saturday mornings. His parents were so thankful he did not have to work all night on Saturday nights too so he could meet with fellow Christians he liked worshipping with on Sunday mornings. At the SDB church I attended we used the Bible lessons put out by the Lutherans. EGW first heard of worship on Saturdays from a SDB lady. Generally though the SDB's are probably the most level-headed, firmly grounded in the gosple of all Saturday observing groups. They truly are Christians first and when a SDB person tells you that observing the Sabbath plays no part in their salvation they really mean it. I would still be attending the SDB church but it had to disband because it was very small and the minister got an opportunity to pastor a large church in a different area. Usually SDA's look down on other seventh-day churchs because those churchs even though they have the truth of the Sabbath they are not part of the rement and as such don't have the three angels message. It's an opinion of mine that most seventh-day observing Christians who are not SDA think of the SDA as a very large, wealthy cult system. I think I can have these opinons based on authority as I have attended numerous seventh-day observing churchs. The Bible Sabbath Association puts out a book of all the seventh-day keeping churches in North America that they can get information on. You can look up their website. Some of those churchs are really spun. There's one that the women have to wear blue fringe on the bottom of their gaments, live in a menstral hut behind the house during their monthly unclean days, and on and on. They also practice snake handling in their worship services. Sure not a church I want to go to, Saturday or any other day. I would go to the Seventh-day Lutheran Church though if I ever made it up to Minnesota where they have their group. There are a lot of seventh-day penticostle churchs. It's not the Sabbath why I think the SDA church is so far from the truth. It's the misplacd emphasis on the Sabbath, in combination with their numerous totally non-Bibical doctrines, such as their interpertation of the three angels message, the soon impending universal Sunday law, the have-to's and the can nots, of course, the Investagitive Judgement doctrine, their reverance of EGW,and on and on. After all, in 2 Corintheins it says let every person worship on any day he wants to but we are not to place judgement on those who do not worship as we do. I can honestly assure all of you out there that the SDB's heed that text.
Flyinglady
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Posted on Saturday, July 24, 2004 - 8:26 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Susan_2, thank you for explaining about the SDB and the Sabbath. I am not familiar with other churches beliefs, so I find it very interesting how others believe.
Diana

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