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33ad
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Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2004 - 12:34 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Go look at this link;
http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=3&art_id=qw1096951142886N245
Pitcairn was always held up to be "The Adventist Paradise". When I was growing up, I even thought I could emigrate there to avoid the "Sabbath Law"(Haha)
I wonder what the GC is going to do for Damage Control?
Susan_2
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Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2004 - 8:44 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow, 33ad, I hadn't thought of Pitcarin Island in years. I remember how at campmeeting that island would be brought up constantly about how awsome is is for the people to have harmony in religioous believe as there was no religous arguements over what day was holy. I for sure will check out that web address. Remember campmeeting? Remember hearing that princess whose native language was clcking? I always liked listening to her do her clicking language and then being a kid I would spend the rest of the afternoon clicking my tongue on the roof of my mouth totally annoying everyone around me. Also one year a real canabel came and spoke. He had even been on a t.v. news program once telling about his conversion from canabalism to SDA'ism.
Lydell
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Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2004 - 10:40 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

On a site called Religious News Online, saw some info that attendance at the church on Pitcairn has been so sorry that it is now considered only to be a company. Apparently only like 8 of the 40+ inhabitants attend church.

Now there's my idea of a really rotten place to live! Imagine being an Adventist there waking up to the truth of the church? There is literally no other church to go to! Imagine being someone there finding Jesus and having only the SDA's to go to?! Some "island paradise"!
Dennis
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Posted on Tuesday, October 05, 2004 - 7:38 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Adventism's most notable heretic, Dudley Canright, reported that when SDA missionaries arrived on Pitcairn Island in the late nineteenth century, they actually moved the International Date Line (being about three miles from the tiny island)so that Saturday was actually Sunday. This significantly helped in converting the entire Pitcairn Island population to Adventism.

When I visited the old General Conference headquarters in Takoma Park in 1970, I noticed an exhibit about Pitcairn Island in the foyer. For decades, Pitcairn Island has been the pride and joy of Adventism. It will be very interesting to see how they spin this news report about the sex trials on Pitcairn Island.

Dennis J. Fischer
33ad
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Posted on Wednesday, October 06, 2004 - 5:24 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

They've gone into denial!
http://news.independent.co.uk/world/australasia/story.jsp?story=568506
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"But Ray Coombe, who was sent to Pitcairn during the child sex abuse trials that began last week, said after Saturday's Sabbath service that the church had known nothing about alleged mistreatment of children. "They [the pastors] may have had an inkling but, to my knowledge, there was nothing that was definitely known," he said.
Mr Coombe told a congregation of 15 islanders that the past week had been "a historic but difficult time" for Pitcairn. "The peaceful, unhurried and carefree atmosphere has been interrupted," he said.
He told the community, founded by the mutineers from HMS Bounty and their Polynesian wives: "The more we feel threatened and under attack, the more we need to bond together and help each other."
They'll be abandoned as soon as he leaves!Boy. I'm glad to be out.
Loren
Melissa
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Posted on Wednesday, October 06, 2004 - 6:47 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is that like suspecting EGWs writings looked an awful lot like some other books, but "not knowing for sure"? Excuse the sarcasm, but sometimes i just shake my head. My cousin's step-father was beating her black and blue and I got blacklisted by that aunt when i told my mother...who stepped into it to protect my cousin. Sometimes you disrupt the peace to correct a wrong. Isn't that what Christ did when he upset the moneychangers' tables in the temple?
Lydell
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Posted on Wednesday, October 06, 2004 - 6:47 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

They "had known nothing" eh? According to Religious News Online, quoting an article in the Adventist News Network, "allan Walshe, president of the New Zealand Pacific Union Conferance...we first became aware of allegations 2 years ago..." from a policeman who had visited the island.
Colleentinker
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Posted on Wednesday, October 06, 2004 - 10:03 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good comparison, Melissa--we truly do not see what's under our noses when knowing threatens our status quo. And the conference knew for two years? Amazing--but not surprising.

The Sabbath just doesn't change lives, does it?

Colleen
33ad
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Posted on Monday, October 18, 2004 - 5:44 am:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Justice Pitcairn Style! They may even get away.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/200410/s1222414.htm

http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=2024&art_id=qw1098083701764B213
Loren
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Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 7:41 pm:   Edit PostDelete PostPrint Post   Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Listening to the BBC the other night, they reported that six (I think -- it was late!) Pitcairn men had been sentenced to jail terms. The story focused on the Adventist church.

One interesting statement was that only a minority of the island's residents attended services. Of the 49 Pitcairners, about 11 showed up on a typical sabbath. It's the only church there is on the island, of course, so it would be hard to emerge from Adventism there.

Sex with young girls is part of the culture, apparently. On such a small island, with such a small population, it was impossible to keep secrets. When two older men were headed up the hill to the unpopulated area with a 12-year-old girl, everyone knew what was happening.

All the molested women talked about how there was no one they could complain to about the problem. The BBC reporter asked the obvious question: What about the Adventist minister? The ministers are rotated in from Australia and serve for three years. The answer to the reporter was that the ministers were too interested in fitting in, to raise the issue. They were trying to preach to the Adventist community, not play policeman.

The Adventist church was pretty badly slammed by the BBC story. It is probably perceived as idiosyncratic to Pitcairn, though, so I doubt that it will color listeners' view of SDAs generally.

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